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Clitic?[edit]

Is this really a clitic, or some other part of speech? --Vladisdead 04:23, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I've changed that to the more standard heading "Suffix." If there is some dispute, then the mention of "Clitic" belonds in a usage note if anywhere. --Connel MacKenzie 20:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
It's a clitic form of the auxiliary verb have, not a suffix. A suffix is a bound morpheme attached to a root to form a word, while a clitic is a word phonologically bound but syntactically independent. I'll move this page back to 've. Read the following thesis:
Zwicky, Arnold M. & Pullum, Geoffrey K. (1983), "Cliticization vs. Inflection: English n't", Language 59(3): 502-513.
TAKASUGI Shinji 07:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Possess[edit]

Is the second meaning listed really true? Shouldn't it just be listed as "Non-standard" instead of "Some dialects"? What dialects might they be? --Connel MacKenzie 20:38, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

It would not be 'non-standard'; it is a hallmark of both exceedingly proper and exceedingly old-fashioned British English. 'I've no choice but accept it', 'They've an idea that they can...', 'You've two choices' are all acceptable under either of those circumstances. (Sometimes Americans do it too, but I've only seen it in the script of the DS translation of Final Fantasy IV, which had exceedingly literary writing.) --90.196.150.122 20:52, 23 July 2014 (UTC)