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I would like to add the correct vowels etc to the display version of the title (the headword). I know there should be a shadda with a small verticle alif over one of the lams, but when I look at images of Arabic calligraphy I find that some have these marks over the first lam, some have them over the second lam, and some even have them kind-of floating around between them!

Can anybody tell me the correct position please? — Hippietrail 12:35, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Shouldn't be 2x /l/ ?
In Wikipedia is different pronunciation: /ʔalˤˈlˤaːh/ invalid IPA characters (ˤˤ), replace ˤ with ˁ, ˤ with ˁ. Which is correct for standard Arabic? Maro 01:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

green picture[edit]

why in the stylized picture the last ـه is not closed? Thanks in advance. Backinstadiums (talk) 20:42, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

That's just another way to write it. --WikiTiki89 20:47, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
I started to upload some graphics that show common alternative letter forms for Arabic, but filling out the copyright information during upload is just too difficult and time consuming. Arabic computer fonts do not do justice to written Arabic. There are many more letter variations and ligatures used for writing Arabic than you would ever see in a text written in the Latin alphabet. Arabic fonts are designed as well as possible, but they drastically "dumb down" Arabic writing. Until just the past 15 years, Arabic and Urdu newspapers were mostly hand-written, because computer fonts have been unacceptable for the purpose. Today, a good Urdu font might contain 18,000 different letter forms per typeface, and the OpenType font technology makes selecting the correct forms from the huge inventory possible (only certain applications such as w:Adobe InDesign can make use of these fonts). Even today, I think Arabic computer fonts are only being used for newspaper text, whereas headlines are still done by hand. You can learn a little more about alternative Arabic letter forms here. —Stephen (Talk) 13:11, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

construct state[edit]

Hi, I'd like to know how اضافة notions are written since the term apparently does not have contruct state forms. Thanks in advance. --Backinstadiums (talk) 10:42, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Definite nouns do not have construct states because they can't be used as the first part (or rather non-last part) of an idafa construction. --WikiTiki89 20:12, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Wrong brackets and protection[edit]

Why did Atitarev made square brackets for a clearly phonemic representation? And why did Qehath prevent registered users from editing for struggling with an anonymous user? --Mahmudmasri (talk) 20:10, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Great questions. I've changed the block. You can feel free to change the IPA. --WikiTiki89 20:14, 29 March 2018 (UTC)