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"さね (kine)"[edit]

Unless there's some Japanese writing rule I'm missing, that actually reads "sane" and not "kine". Kine would be きね.


On my mobile phone (Samsung Galaxy II, Android 4.1.2, Opera Classic) the Korean section is not visible until the Japanese section is expanded. I tried editing the page as there was an inconsistency but it didn't help. Any ideas? Danielklein (talk) 21:51, 29 November 2013 (UTC)


@Justinrleung, Suzukaze-c What's the difference between jan4, jan4-2 and jan4-1? (from here) Thanks! Wyang (talk) 09:44, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

@Kc kennylau Wyang (talk) 09:44, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
@Wyang: 一個人(jan4) means a person. 一個人(jan4-2/jan4-1) means alone. I have no idea what the difference between 一個人(jan4-2) and 一個人(jan4-1) is. --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:18, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
@Wyang, Kc kennylau: I think 一個人(jan4-2) can also mean "a person" (e.g. 有(一)個人坐咗喺嗰度), but not 一個人(jan4-1). Take 三個人 as another example: 三個人(jan4) would mean "three people" (human beings?), while 三個人(jan4-2) would mean "three people" (guys?). We can also compare 一個人(jan4-1) with 自己(gei2-1) - not sure if there's any semantic difference with the tone change. BTW, I don't think we should include jan4-1 in this entry because it's not used independently; it must be in a compound or phrase, like 一個人 or 捉伊人. — justin(r)leung (t...) | c=› } 14:42, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks both! I was also told that jan1 carries a sense of childishness and moe (萌え) in declarative sentences - not sure if that is true. Wyang (talk) 07:28, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
@Wyang: Possibly. The usage note at 一個人 also mentions "aloneness". — justin(r)leung (t...) | c=› } 07:37, 28 March 2017 (UTC)