Talk:火の鳥

RFV discussion: December 2016–June 2017

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火の鳥

Is this just merely based on the English name of Tezuka Osamu's Hi no Tori? ばかFumiko￥^talk 14:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

• Most JA reference entries for this at least mention the translated title of Stravinsky's ballet L'Oiseau de feu, also known in English as The Firebird, as one of the earlier appearances of this phrase. It is also the title of various other books, manga, films, and anime. See the entries at Kotobank for examples.

There is some minor reference to this as a gloss for English phoenix, as in the second entry at Weblio. That said, there's not much about 火の鳥 that goes beyond SOP-ness: it is literally 火 (hi, “fire”) + の (no, possessive or genitive particle, also used to make one noun modify another) + 鳥 (tori, “bird”).

I have no objection to removing the entry, if other editors also view it as SOP. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 18:35, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

It is likely to be popularized by Tezuka Osamu but it is common enough today. I don’t think it is an SOP because it is not just a bird of fire but usually an immortal phenix. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 06:17, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

• RFV passed with clear widespread use, though citations are not yet in the entry. Most of the concerns voiced here belong in RFD, whither you can send this if you wish. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 19:26, 5 June 2017 (UTC)