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Nice contradiction in the first few lines, there, re: French etymology. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:01, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

If it is a wine produced in Bordeaux, how do the French pronounce it? Don't the French realize it is a UK coinage and shows complete hyperforeignism on their part when they pronounce it clar-RAY? Quelle outre! (which is pronounced Kwelly out-ree.) Derrickchapman 21:08, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

But is it, the etymology says from French but also says coined in English. Which is it? Mglovesfun (talk) 20:12, 5 June 2012 (UTC)


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The term 'claret' is an 'English' word describing a light red wine from Bordeaux. It comes from the French word 'clairet', which describes a light red wine from Bordeaux. But pronouncing it /kleré/ is hyperforeign. If that makes sense to anybody, I'd like to hear about it. Korn (talk) 18:10, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

  • I'm used to hearing something more like [ˈklɛɾet], FWIW. -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 18:19, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Note: wrong forum for future reference. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:21, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
      • Should be at WT:RFC, looks like tosh to me, if it is derived from French, dropping the final t is not hyperforeign. I've always pronounced it /ˈklærət/ and just got my mum to say it, she says the same. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:24, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Possible change in meaning over time[edit]

Chambers 1908 says: "originally applied to wines of a light-red colour, but now used in England for the dark-red wines of Bordeaux". Equinox 19:30, 7 November 2017 (UTC)