Talk:cool
First use
[edit]The first usage is interesting but is too wordy and too poorly formatted. It should somehow go into an etymology section in my opinion. Hmm. — Hippietrail 08:47, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Quotation Indentation relative to particular use.
[edit]Ideally it should appear as a quotation subsection indented under the 4th meaning of the word - just not quite sure how to do that though - if anyone can get it to do that then that'd be great. As for too wordy hmmm - i dunno i guess the contributor was trying to make sure that the full context was there so that there could be no misunderstanding of the word's meaning in that passage - the links good for that too, but well you know links!! One day they're there and the next ... :-> — This unsigned comment was added by Kim Meyrick (talk • contribs) at 06:14, 11 August 2004 (UTC).
Indentation
[edit]Maybe this is similar to what you had in mind:
cool (comparative cooler, superlative coolest)
- Having a slightly low temperature; mildly or pleasantly cold.
- Of a person, not showing emotion.
- (colloquial) Of a person, knowing what to do and how to behave in any situation.
- The earliest use of the word in this way should be read in context, for, a page or so earlier, the narrator has described Mr. Bruff as 'coolly' referring to Rachel's suspicion of his guilt, and so might not be what it seems to be in Wilkie Collins' "The Moonstone" 1868, but an ironic comment on the narator's own cold calculations:
- "She has been a guest of yours at this house," I answered. "May I venture to suggest — if nothing was said about me beforehand — that I might see her here?"
- "Cool!" said Mr. Bruff. With that one word of comment on the reply that I had made to him, he took another turn up and down the room.
- "In plain English," he said, "my house is to be turned into a trap to catch Rachel ...
- (colloquial) In fashion.
- "Jordan is very cool," Matt stated, "even cooler than me!"
- (colloquial) Of an action, all right, acceptable, that does not present a problem.
- (colloquial) Of a person, not upset by circumstances that might ordinarily be upsetting.
- I'm completely cool about my girlfriend leaving me.
--Kompik 16:42, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
What about footnotes?
[edit]Maybe it's ok to have longer quotations in a separate subsection. I tried to use footnotes for this purpose. I copied the Template:ref and Template:note from wikipedia. I also copied a shorter quotation (which looked before as a part of the quotation from Moonstone) to the vocabulary part. Try to have a look, if it's better now. Maybe the longer quotation could be colored? --Kompik 16:22, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Japanese word for cool?
[edit]Isn't the Japanese word for cool "kakuwi" or something like that? I always thought "sugoi" was closer to "awesome" instead of cool. 67.122.136.110 04:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
the japanese word for cool is 格好いい (かっこういい) 'kakkouii', sugoi is closer to terrific or amazing. — This unsigned comment was added by 210.185.92.222 (talk) at 10:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC).
Or in english simplicity "Kakkoi"= as in "cool!" — This unsigned comment was added by 132.48.241.11 (talk) at 16:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC).
French Definition
[edit]I've added a french definition. However, not being a native french speaker, could someone verify the examples I've given? - I know that the noun one is correct, not quite sure about the adjective one. JameiLei 20:28, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Update - does cool change depending on gender or plural or does it stay the same like marron? JameiLei 10:12, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Quotations
[edit]CROMEK SPEAKS
I always take my judgment from a Fool Because his judgment is so very Cool, Not prejudic’d by feelings great or small. Amicable state! He cannot feel at all.
William Blake (probably written 1808-1811)
— This unsigned comment was added by 203.221.196.169 (talk) at 04:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC).
Typo?
[edit]So... on "translations" section, it says the translation of the verb 'to cool' as in 'to lose heat' and 'to cool' as in 'to become less amiable'. Isn't it supposed to be 'to become less amicable'? --AlexDuarte 22:32, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. corrected. DCDuring Holiday Greetings! 23:38, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]Of course I may be victim to local dialect, but I'm of the opinion that common pronunciation in so-called standard American English, at least, has the vowel not only prolonged, but rather more a diphthong including schwa, i.e. IPA(key): /kuəl/. The presented pronunciation IPA(key): /kuːl/ would strike me as at least somewhat foreign sounding to most North American speakers, in fact.
But I am frequently wrong; I defer to anyone else who knows better.
— This unsigned comment was added by Em8146 (talk • contribs) at 04:30, 20 July 2009 (UTC).
2nd definition and example under Noun are incorrect
[edit]The 2nd definition under noun... is not a noun in either the definition or the example.
Page is protected and I'm not interested enough to create an account and login (why doesn't my Wikipedia account work here?).
— This unsigned comment was added by 64.208.122.50 (talk) at 22:24, 18 October 2012 (UTC).
Vietnamese translations
[edit]The entry for this word is locked for editing for some reason. Could someone who can make edits please add Vietnamese translations for adj. sense 1: 'mát' and 'mát mẻ'? E.g., "hôm nay trời mát (mẻ)" – "the weather is cool today". Pfftallofthemaretaken (talk) 09:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
Wilkie Collins
[edit]In the quotation from The Moonstone, the meaning of the word cool is audacious. Franklin Blake has just asked Mathew Bruff to "turn traitor", as Bruff characterizes Blake's proposal. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 21:40, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I missed this. Soap (talk) 17:52, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Broken ogg file
[edit]The English audio OGG file appears to be broken. Cstarkjp (talk) 13:32 31 May 2019 (JPT)
- thanks, strange that it went unnoticed for so long. I've tagged the file and requested a new recording. – Jberkel 06:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Abe Lincoln
[edit]Abe Lincoln apparently once said, In that supposed event, you say, you will destroy the Union; and then, you say, the great crime of having destroyed it will be upon us! That is cool. Can we work out what sense he meant there? Could this be a predecessor of the modern sense that we currently have cited to 1868? It seems to fit better with sense 11, also known from 1868, but perhaps the one originated as a sarcastic variant of the other. Soap (talk) 23:57, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
- I missed the comment aboe about Wilkie Collins. This is almost certainly the same sense used in definition 11, as definition 9 likely did not exist yet. EtymOnline suggests the modern sense did not emerge until the 1950s, and that it originated from jazz. Soap (talk) 17:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Two further informal meanings
[edit]At least in American English, speakers of all ages but especially children, have an additional set of meanings of this word similar to the one pertaining to fashion. Such younger speakers use cool to describe anything as extraordinary, unique, or highly interesting, e.g., clever creations, technical achievements, or features of the natural world such as exotic animals. Second, cool is used to describe a thing or device as functional and useful (this seems less typically applied to a person, perhaps due to the way it would objectify them as a utility).Cdg1072 (talk) 00:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
Add def. for cool
[edit]- pure, untainted; crystal-clear.
Nathan, --77.137.178.130 13:53, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
The image
[edit]The pallette image: is it only me? I feel the line should be turned by one position counterclockwise. Reciprocist (talk) 15:49, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
Cool meaning fashionable is not "hipster slang", it's AAVE
[edit]"Slang use of cool for "fashionable" is by 1933, originally African-American vernacular; its modern use as a general term of approval is from the late 1940s, probably via bop talk and originally in reference to a style of jazz; the word is said to have been popularized in jazz circles by tenor saxophonist Lester Young (1909-1959). Cool-headed "not easily excited or confused" is from 1742."
https://www.etymonline.com/word/cool BedVeritas1 (talk) 19:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)