Talk:pedantic

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pedantic

I have changed the definitions to what the dictionary says exactly. The definitions on the page are vague and some were just down right wrong. Please leave them the way they are now.

Wait. If the purpose is to copy and paste "what the dictionary says exactly", why have a Wiktionary in the first place?
I've seen some "vague" and "downright wrong" definitions on merriam-webster.com, myself.
That's another matter: When you say "what the dictionary says", I say "which dictionary?"
I think definitions should be defined by consensus. I am currently in a profitless, time-wasting argument with someone who thinks "unimaginative" is an appropriate synonym for "pedantic", when it is really a poor choice, like a third cousin instead of a sibling. That's what happens when stupid people read "the dictionary" without understanding that the third definition is not equal to the first and second. There are over 100 comments on merriam-webster.com's definition for "pedantic", and several of them complain that the definition given there is poor and insufficient. Wiktionary should strive to be better than that, through the power of consensus of smart people, proven through civil debate. Is that not the purpose of the various Wikimedia projects? I admit I haven't paid nearly as much attention to Wiktionary as I have the more popular Wikipedia, so of course I could be wrong. Either way, I'm pretty sure we're supposed to sign our comments, and name our sources.
Respectfully,
--Ben Culture (talk) 20:43, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, we don't copy copyrighted sources. You're replying to a comment from 2007, so I doubt the current entry reflects whatever it was at that time. Equinox 20:46, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Wow, that has to be the quickest I've ever got a reply on a Wikimedia Talk/Discussion page. Thank you. I meant to include "And what about copyrights?" in my previous comment, but forgot. I didn't realize that comment was so old. The current definition seems fine to me.
What I was saying in my argument (on another site) was that, while, yes, a pedant is quite likely to BE unimaginative, "unimaginative" does not adequately describe what "pedantic" means. It looks like my, er, debate partner just glanced at the one source, merriam-webster, which offers it as a third definition, and went on to try bluffing me. But even Thesaurus.com doesn't offer "unimaginative" as a direct synonym.
Thank you for your reply.
--Ben Culture (talk) 21:29, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree: a pedantic person might be unimaginative (tending to fall back on rote learning), but that's not enough for a synonym. Likewise, a jealous person might be insecure, but that doesn't make "jealous" and "insecure" synonyms. Equinox 21:30, 12 December 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Finnish[edit]

Is there any truth to the idea that the Finnish expression for "pedant" translates as "comma-fucker"?

I'd like this to be true, but suspect it's actually an urban myth.

Penglish (talk) 15:51, 6 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've found some sources:
Penglish (talk) 16:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)Reply[reply]