Talk:rain cats and dogs

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The usage note is fine, but really it applies to any weather term (and to a broader class I can't put my finger on). E.g., it's raining, it's snowing, it's hailing ... -dmh 04:54, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Those are called impersonal verbs (Wikipedia). I'm pretty sure I've seen another term along the lines of "weather verb" too but that's less formal I'd say. — Hippietrail 15:39, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Ta. Sounds like a category to me ... -dmh 15:51, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
You're welcome and I agree 100% with the category idea. I added a bunch of other types of verbs over at verb if you're interested. — Hippietrail 16:17, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Good stuff, and obvious directions for future work (which I will have to forego in favor of real work) -dmh 17:33, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)

It would be very helpful, especially when learning a new language, to know the transliterations, not just the translations, of the comparable foreign language idioms. This should be a valid heading. -- 21:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't rain but it pours[edit]

Is this not also an English idiom synonymous with "It's raining cats and dogs"? __meco 16:50, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

No, I don't think so. The idiom "When it rains, it pours" has nothing to do with atmospheric precipitation. The idiom ...cats and dogs always refers to atmospheric precipitation. --Connel MacKenzie 16:52, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
You're clearly right. It was my not remembering the precise wording of that idiom which brought on my confusion. __meco 17:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I wonder if we should have a note about the obvious confusion for English learners though. Some might (rightly) say that all idioms are confusing...but these imply they are related, when they are not. I wonder if we have a specific way of addressing situations like this? --Connel MacKenzie 17:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


The ultimate etymology of this idiom is unknown. There are many other theories that are more likely than the example. Should we list them all,or merely note that it is unknown? DeeKenn 17:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

It'd be fun to try to list them all, otherwise "Etymology unknown" would get very repetitive. Conrad.Irwin 17:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Etymology (again)[edit]

I found a site which lists some possible etymologies for this phrase. --BiT 01:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)