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Again, welcome! --Panda10 13:51, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Of course I stay and luv being a wiktionarian :D Ferike333 19:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)


Ferike, please go back to each word you added so far and take a look at the corrections I made. If you have any questions, let me know. --Panda10 12:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Do we always show only the two main parts of a compound word even if it contains more components? I will post your question to BP to see how other editors do it for other languages. For Hungarian, my thought was that this will create a cleaner structure. If users click on vakbél in the etymology, they will see that this word also has two components. Another aspect in the world of compounds is that when you create a compound entry, you should also add the word to its components under the Derived terms header. For example, vakbélgyulladás is added to vakbél and gyulladás under Derived terms. So let me ask the other editors what makes sense to them. --Panda10 23:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


Welcome to ru.wiktionary! We do out best to make it a useful language learning tool; also feel free to use ru:Template:request! -- Wesha 02:12, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


Hi Feri, please don't add declension tables to verbs. The best would be to use templates. Unfortunately, we don't have templates for -ik verbs yet, but it could be easily created based on the existing verb templates. Have you read Wiktionary:About Hungarian? If not, please review it before adding more entries. When you add a verb, please don't use infinitives, only the lemma form (third-person singular). The infinitive form is a verb form entry, not the main entry. --Panda10 22:24, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

You added a conjugation table to keringőzik. We use templates for conjugation and declension and not tables. If none of the existing templates can be used (which is the case for keringőzik), then don't add a conjugation section. It will be added later when the template is developed. --Panda10 22:41, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
There are few old entries that contain these conjugation tables. I have not removed them, but eventually they will have to be replaced by a template. --Panda10 11:51, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Synonyms and labelling[edit]

I noticed that when you added the synonym lucerne to the entry for alfalfa you used the context template {{UK}}. Unfortunately doing so added alfalfa to Category:UK which wasn't what was intended. In general, for terms listed in the Synonyms section and similar uses, one should used the template {{qualifier}} as in {{qualifier|British}}, which gives the appearance of a context label without doing any of the categorization. — Carolina wren discussió 17:09, 7 April 2009 (UTC)


Hi there. I've recorded an audio pronunciation of the word lough ('loch') in Irish and added it to the page. I've also added a half-baked attempt at IPA, but I'm pretty clueless about that stuff. Can you just check it over and change the IPA as you see fit? Chances are I've got it wrong :) Thanks, too, for being interested in the Irish language - Alison 05:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Haar[edit]

As you asked, I looked at the Usage Notes you added and they look perfectly ok to me. --Zeitlupe 07:06, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: marshmallow in BrE[edit]

Hi. It's correct, in British English you put the stress on the second syllable. By the way a better translation for "I forethank you" would be "thanks/thank you in advance" [1] [2]. --Duncan 17:41, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

That ("thanks in advance") is especially common, I think, on the Internet, where it's acquired an acronym: TIA. A belated welcome to English Wiktionary, by the way.—msh210 18:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, Ferike333 11:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Nincs mit (is it Hungarian for "You're welcome"?). --Duncan 19:14, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, more information on your talk page. Ferike333 11:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Köszi a lot for your answer. I'm not entirely certain where I heard nincs mit for the first time, but I'm almost certain that it was used by the Hungarian boys from Slovakia I was in the army with (you see, it was back in the days when Czechoslovakia was still one country and the "basic military service" compulsory). This fits well with its being informal; however, I was more concerned whether I remembered it correctly and also whether it wasn't only used by "Slovakian Hungarians" (I hope the term isn't controversial in Hungary!). --Duncan 14:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks - interesting stuff. I didn't realise (or possibly have forgotten) that apart from Slovakia, there are these significant Hungarian minorities in the other countries you name as well - the numbers I found in Wikipedia really surprised me a bit. "Děkuji vám" is correct but pretty formal - you would usually only say "děkuji" (without vám=to you in the formal or plural form) for "thank you", and "díky" or "dík" for "thanks". (And the most informal form is a simple "Ď.", but that's really informal ;-).) --Duncan 16:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

rain cats and dogs[edit]

I am interested in questions of basic usability for Wiktionary entries. Some folks believe that the show/hide bars are bad because people don't click on them to get the information there. If you can recall, did you look under the show/hide bars at rain for the term you were looking for? DCDuring TALK 14:37, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I did, but in the wrong place. Only under the noun I clicked on derived terms. If you asked your question serious, show/hide bars are perfect for this usage. The fact they are not opened is the fault of user who are lazy (or clumzy) to open them. If these bars didn't exist, entries would be too long and one could find infos only after a hard search. It's my fault, but it was just once, I promiss ;) Sorry for bothering you. Ferike333 15:35, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

I had guessed that that was what happened. That is an everyday "mistake". I'm glad I noticed and that you answered. Laziness is part of all of us sometimes, so accommodating some of it is probably a good thing. I am an advocate of doing as much as possible to save vertical screen space, especially at the top of each entry. "Show/hide" bars are indispensable, but have some drawbacks. There is a case for combining the show/hide bars, but then they would appear too far down the page. Perhaps we should include links to the other show-hides (rel and derived anyway) that appear in the same language section. Would that have served as a useful reminder? You can just answer here, I'm watching for now. DCDuring TALK 15:48, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
You're right. As you open a window, only the most necessary infos should be shown and the details should be in these bars BUT on the same page. I don't clearly understand what you're saying with the links. Do you mean something that Germans have on their Wiktionary mixed with show-hide bars? Eg.: de:kávéscsésze is linked to de:kávéscsésze (Deklination). I know they are not show-hide bars, but are linked, and you could do the same with show-hide bars as well. If you meant that, I think it'd be much more complicated to contribute and many details would be missing (just as in German Wiktionary), because users are lazier to create a new entry than just complete an existing one, even if Hungarian cases are very important because without all of them you could not replace English prepositions, and all of the cases must be shown, because there are two or three possibilities, a foreigner would not know. And if they were in another entry, clumsy people (like me sometimes) wouldn't find them easily. So the actual one is the best solution, I think, but that's just one opinion. And what do you think? Sorry for the late answer, I was helping my mom study English ;) Ferike333 16:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking of a simple thing for now: See rain#Derived terms and rain#Verb Related terms. The idea is simply to provide a reminder of the other similar content on the same page, to help reduce the chance a user would make the same unavoidable (statistically) natural "mistake" that you made. This operates within the crudest of wiki devices: same-page section links. Take your time on answering. Good luck with your Mom's English lesson. DCDuring TALK 17:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. We've finished. I don't think there's anything else I haven't told her about passive. Seems to be a good idea, but would it not make entries too long? But I think at all I support your idea. Would you, please, create an example undersite on your user page? Am I the first you told this idea or there's a talk page it's already been discussed on. You made me interested, too. Ferike333 21:11, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
It's very simple-minded. It is already at rain#Derived terms and rain#Verb. Each list begins with a link (as best it can be done within my knowledge) that is also a reminder. I am interested in whether it even catches the eye. DCDuring TALK 21:23, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I had made a mistake on the link names above. It ought to be possible to link to the other derived term section with the show/hide already opened. But the first question is whether it is noticeable. There is no discussion. It is a brand-new idea stimulated by your "mistake". If it is too complicated or not highly effective, it should not be done because the problem is not very common. DCDuring TALK 21:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I see. But how do you want to make the bers open when clicking on the link on the top of an entry. And how do you want to make the link to the derived terms below rain#Verb? What if there are two derived terms on a page? I think it works. Sorry, I'll answer only tomorrow, I've got to go to bed now. Ferike333 21:44, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
I believe that there is wikimarkup insertable at the jump target that supports a jump from a place that knows the name. It is used at Appendix:Glossary, now that I think of it. Maybe you know something better. Thanks for taking an interest. I think it has been used in few entries on a test basis as well. DCDuring TALK 22:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
If I understand well, "glossary" symbolizes the entries, and from there would be the links to Derived terms and rels. Is it right? Sorry, I'm being a bit dizzy now to simply understand such a complicated thing :p But if it's what I wrote, too, it is very very good. Ferike333 08:45, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
The technique involves the use of spanid=. That forms a jump target. It doesn't seem to work if located inside the area bracketed by {{rel-top}} and {{rel-bottoom}}. But see how it is used at Appendix:Glossary. DCDuring TALK 11:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


Hello Ferike333,
I answered you on this page. - Kind regards, Caligari 14:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Danke schön. Hab' dir auch dort beantwortet. Ferike333 15:12, 9 July 2009 (UTC)


Hi Feri, please add translations only to English entries. Foreign language entries should not contain translations. In the case of Pécs, they should go under the same entry in the Hungarian Wiktionary. Thanks. --Panda10 22:32, 21 August 2009 (UTC)


Hey! I checked and corrected the Turkish translations of "impregnate", thanks for mentioning. And the template works good as far as I see. It must be a temporary problem by your side :) With all my best wishes, take care! Sinek 19:15, 11 October 2009 (UTC)


I added the "alt" parameter to the t template to display the exclamation mark but not make it part of the entry. We usually don't create entries with !, ? etc. in the headword. We can add them under the POS header if needed. See for example milyen. Thanks. --Panda10 17:50, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't know about this 'alt' parameter, but I didn't even realize that this would make the wrong link, however I should have. I've corrected the German term as well because I had made the same mistake there, too. Thank you for warning and informing me. Ferike333 19:24, 1 November 2009 (UTC)