Talk:free

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Several of these definitions (ie "Unconstrained") are unfortunately common usage. A better word for these meanings is license, where one definition is "Excessive freedom; lack of due restraint. When liberty becomes license dictatorship is near, Will Durant"

Apiryon (talk) 21:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC) We are assuming here that all the meanings of the word "free" share an etymological origin.

Free as in "without cost" may not have the same origin as free meaning "without constraint."

For the latter meaning in particular, there may be a connection to the P-R root which in Hebrew and I would assume other languages of the region means to bear fruit, blossom, spread out, separate, etc.

At least, some attempt could be made to validate the idea that these share a common origin.

Apiryon (talk) 21:32, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

software libre[edit]

I am unwilling to make the edit myself as it is controversial, but it should be noted that most proponents of free software would argue the point that it is totally without limitations, not merely without as many limitations as proprietary software. It could also be argued that this definition is severely lacking, as it does not mention the Four Freedoms implied by common usage in the industry. —This comment was unsigned.

The hard part is having some evidence that the word is being used as you say and not in the more broadly accepted senses from sources that meet our standards, durably archived, independent, etc. Please feel free to provide citations, preferably on the citations page, that illustrate the sense you propose. We are fairly good about including things promptly once we see signs that they are really entering the language. Language is a system of conventions that is inherently conservative, but steadily evolving. We document changes, but not at the very earliest stages. DCDuring TALK 21:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Thats actually quite easy. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.en.html - Considering Richard Stallman and GNU created the entire usage of the term 'Free' when it comes to software, you should look to the inventors of the term for the definition, which they go to great lengths to define with as legal of a definition as possible. "Without limitations", in terms of usage, or ability to change, is correct. But in reality its not totally free when it comes to changing the license so its not a Great Example, but its a Great Reference. You're as bound by this definition of Free as you are by any other definition. Now, BSD License is free, in every way, its free. Regardless, I digree, and merely point out the intention of the author of the term, which is free both as in speech, cost, and without limitations in terms of usage, change, ownership, or control of the end results.83.134.73.86