Talk:gravel road
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Jusjih in topic gravel road
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A road with a gravel surface—sounds like gravel + road. Compare "brick road", "concrete road", "gravel path". —Granger (talk · contribs) 16:16, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- No wonder, you removed a substantial part of the definition. DonnanZ (talk) 16:44, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- I removed "usually a rural road with little traffic", which I think is probably an accurate generalization about gravel roads (and about dirt roads and other unpaved roads), but it's not part of the definition of the phrase. I used to live on a gravel road in a city, and the fact that it was in a city would not make me hesitate in the slightest to call it a gravel road. —Granger (talk · contribs) 19:27, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, it could be a generalisation, I know of a couple of gravel roads around here in suburban areas - both are privately owned but access is not restricted, and one of them leads to my local railway station. Perhaps the def can be re-expanded and improved. Anyway, keep. DonnanZ (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Could you please explain how this meaning is supposed to differ from the sum-of-parts meaning? —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:04, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- I think SoP can be a red herring sometimes, I'm not a deletionist. The main question should be whether it's a useful entry or not, but I will have to leave that to others to decide. Its a useful companion for dirt road though. DonnanZ (talk) 21:29, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Could you please explain how this meaning is supposed to differ from the sum-of-parts meaning? —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:04, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, it could be a generalisation, I know of a couple of gravel roads around here in suburban areas - both are privately owned but access is not restricted, and one of them leads to my local railway station. Perhaps the def can be re-expanded and improved. Anyway, keep. DonnanZ (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Oh God I just saw that entry and must immediately vote against all forms of gallery. Equinox ◑ 16:22, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- I love "believed to be in Russia" ... like gravel roads are so rare we can't find a photo of one in a known location ... Mihia (talk) 20:59, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Haha. I found Russian text in the description for the image, which gave me the impression that it may be in Russia, but sadly the image provider didn't say where it is. That part can be removed if this entry survives. But the potholes are characteristic of a gravel road which needs a visit by a road grader. DonnanZ (talk) 21:29, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- No offence intended. Mihia (talk) 03:12, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
- Haha. I found Russian text in the description for the image, which gave me the impression that it may be in Russia, but sadly the image provider didn't say where it is. That part can be removed if this entry survives. But the potholes are characteristic of a gravel road which needs a visit by a road grader. DonnanZ (talk) 21:29, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- I love "believed to be in Russia" ... like gravel roads are so rare we can't find a photo of one in a known location ... Mihia (talk) 20:59, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete SoP. If ugliness were a consideration, that alone would justify deletion. DCDuring (talk) 22:40, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. "Gravel road" is believed to be in SOPland. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:23, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Is this the repayment I get for using an entry for comparative tests in image presentation? I'm far from impressed. DonnanZ (talk) 07:47, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- I'm grateful for such a good illustration of ugliness, but would have preferred one not likely to get RfDed. DCDuring (talk) 12:09, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Gravel roads aren't exactly aesthetic in appearance, and I have driven on many in NZ. But you're welcome to find and add images of "beautiful" gravel roads. DonnanZ (talk) 18:30, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- I was talking about the overall appearance of entry with the photos in it. Sometimes we only have ugly pictures of beautiful things, but that's a separate matter. DCDuring (talk) 21:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, it's a simple matter to rearrange the images. I think the original idea was to avoid clashing with translations.
Done. DonnanZ (talk) 22:17, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, it's a simple matter to rearrange the images. I think the original idea was to avoid clashing with translations.
- I was talking about the overall appearance of entry with the photos in it. Sometimes we only have ugly pictures of beautiful things, but that's a separate matter. DCDuring (talk) 21:52, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Gravel roads aren't exactly aesthetic in appearance, and I have driven on many in NZ. But you're welcome to find and add images of "beautiful" gravel roads. DonnanZ (talk) 18:30, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- I'm grateful for such a good illustration of ugliness, but would have preferred one not likely to get RfDed. DCDuring (talk) 12:09, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Is this the repayment I get for using an entry for comparative tests in image presentation? I'm far from impressed. DonnanZ (talk) 07:47, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Delete. Dirt road is idiomatic, gravel road is not in my experience. - [The]DaveRoss 14:54, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
- Dirt road may be idiomatic, but users still need to know the difference between a dirt road and a gravel road. DonnanZ (talk) 13:53, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
- Keep, doesn't seem distinguishable from "dirt road" outside of volume of use, but use is certainly sufficient to meet the CFI. bd2412 T 02:35, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
- Keep for translations if nothing else. —CodeCat 11:27, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- I imagine gravel to look like the picture I posted to the right, labeled "Gravel (DP)". My initial expectation for a gravel road surface is to look similar. When I look at the images in the entry, I am surprised these are called "gravel road". In the image at the right here, labeled "Gravel road (DP)", from my perspective, there seems to be almost no gravel at all. However, it may be a fault of my overly narrow construction of "gravel". Be that as it may, the "gravel road" entry with the images seems an interesting tool for vocabulary refinement, at least for the present non-native speaker. The definition seems sum of parts, but the images do not seem to obviously rank under "gravel road". --Dan Polansky (talk) 07:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
- There are of course different types of gravel. The top picture resembles gravel found on a gravel beach, which may be OK for someone's driveway. Gravel used in road construction and making concrete is mixed with coarse sand, and comes from a gravel pit. DonnanZ (talk) 08:53, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
- Added an image of a gravel beach for comparison. DonnanZ (talk) 10:16, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
- Kept. No consensus.--Jusjih (talk) 04:27, 14 December 2017 (UTC)