Talk:melanoheliophobia

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RFV discussion: November 2021–June 2022

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Fear of black holes. Equinox 17:16, 30 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

Fear of made-up phobias. – Jberkel 10:45, 1 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
This means a fear of a black Sun – not even a black star. A black hole would become μέλαινα ὀπή (mélaina opḗ) when translated (by calquing) to Ancient Greek.  --Lambiam 12:57, 1 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Regardless of the poor construction (as many words have poorly selected roots), the meaning is clear from the way people on social media keep re-stating the definition, as the fear of black holes. #melanoheliophobia. -- 65.92.246.43 02:42, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Well, people repeating a word, and saying "what a funny word this is", doesn't demonstrate actual usage or adoption into the language. (People have made good money selling books that are just "lists of phobias" that no doctor in the world would recognise, and perhaps have never been genuinely used at all.) Currently we don't usually allow tweets as citations either (WT:CFI), but I suppose that will change some day, since even the OED cites tweets. Equinox 02:49, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
I've only been able to find the one (repeated) usage on Google Books. No hits on Google Scholar nor Issuu, and I've seen no news articles thus far. AG202 (talk) 04:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
This is one of those humorous pseudo-Latin coinages like necrohippoflagellation where half the joke is being able to work out the intended meaning with a basic knowledge of Latin roots. Sadly, it doesn't seem to be attestable by our standards at the moment. The Killers of the Cosmos cite is a use and CFI-compliant. The books have melanoheliophobic as a use, but only a mention of melanoheliophobia. WordyAndNerdy (talk) 03:22, 4 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
Someone has put a lot of (not durably archived) quotes on the page, but as @WordyAndNerdy says, all we really have is Killers of the Cosmos, unless you want to count the rather mention-y quote from Omnidoxy. Kiwima (talk) 02:03, 6 December 2021 (UTC)Reply
See Wiktionary:Votes/2022-01/Handling_of_citations_that_do_not_meet_our_current_definition_of_permanently_archived. Kiwima (talk) 20:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

{{look}} The citations for this term have been put up for vote here Kiwima (talk) 01:17, 25 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

RFV-passed This, that and the other (talk) 01:42, 15 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

RFD discussion: June–August 2022

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This item was "kept" based on a pseudo-vote that did not conform to our CFI policy. It ought be deleted. It certainly is not a valid precedent. DCDuring (talk) 16:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

Strong keep. See Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2022-01/Handling_of_citations_that_do_not_meet_our_current_definition_of_permanently_archived that I just linked to you in the other discussion. CFI did change 4 months ago. AG202 (talk) 17:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Discussion in question: Wiktionary:Requests for verification/English § creeper. AG202 (talk) 17:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Strong keep on the basis that this passed under the changed CFI policy: Other online-only sources may also contribute towards attestation requirements if editors come to a consensus through a discussion lasting at least two weeks. Theknightwho (talk) 17:15, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Just to add to this - having read the discussion in question, this word was literally given as an example of a word that passed under the new CFI rules. To then nominate it for deletion on the basis that it was a "pseudo-vote that did not conform to our CFI policy" is really bad form, and this discussion should be speedy closed. Theknightwho (talk) 17:21, 27 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Strong keep for the reasons stated above. Binarystep (talk) 06:12, 28 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Also Strong keep. Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:58, 28 June 2022 (UTC)Reply
Strong keep - well cited. Facts707 (talk) 10:12, 29 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

RFD-kept. Shouldn't have been nominated anyways. AG202 (talk) 19:29, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply