Talk:pikey

Does anyone have a reference for this first meaning of pikey? I have never met it and I am not convinced it is real. Whilst the pike looks like a simple weapon, it takes a lot of strength to hold and some skill and training to turn and maneovre it in battle. IceDragon64 09:17, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

It's just been taken to WT:RFV. Equinox ◑ 17:17, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I suspect it is current in historical reenactment societies Impregnable (talk) 13:50, 5 July 2015 (UTC).

I've moved these citations of the "underclass, gypsies" sense out of the entry (replacing them with two citations of pikys, because it's not clear to me that the singular of pikies is pikey and not e.g. pikie or piky.

- -sche (discuss) 02:28, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

RFV discussion: June 2015–February 2016

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pikey

Rfv-sense: ‘A low-ranking soldier who merely carries a pike.’ Ƿidsiþ 16:40, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Clearly meant to be a diminutive of pikeman, and in that sense I found this this cite. It is, however, in the context of a coal mine pikeman rather than the type of soldier. SpinningSpark 22:50, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Perhaps the definition could be reworded to be more general. SpinningSpark 23:13, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

I have reworded the definition, and added some cites, although one of them is a bit iffy. Kiwima (talk) 00:56, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Is pikies actually a plural as pikey? The only citations of the "fishing lure" sense use that spelling. "seventy-leven pikey men" is arguably a childish(?) rendering of "pike men", i.e. "pikey" itself is rendering "pike" and "men" is what carries the meaning "men" (rather than "pikey" meaning "pikeman"). - -sche (discuss) 01:19, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

The "underclass" sense suffers from the same problem. I've added them to the RFV. - -sche (discuss) 02:23, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

The "underclass" sense is cited now, as is the "fish" sense and the verb. The "lure" and "pikeman" senses are not adequately cited, because these citations have issues (discussed above):

problematic citations

pikeman

fishing lure

- -sche (discuss) 02:41, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

RFV-failed the "pikeman" and "lure" senses. - -sche (discuss) 02:53, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

rfv-failed senses (one has two citations)

1. A pikeman.
2. A type of fishing lure, often used for pike.