Talk:strap

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Strap-on

This also seems to be a slangy shortening of "strap-on", as in "she [some woman who is speculated to be gay] definitely uses the strap", but I haven't found durable examples. - -sche (discuss) 04:14, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

RFV discussion: May–June 2020

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strap

Rfv-sense, as short for strap-on. I can find uses on Twitter ([1], [2], [3], [4]), but it's difficult to search for, and I haven't found it anywhere durable. grendel|khan 23:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 21:16, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

This could probably be cited from queer (online) publications now that such things are allowable. Here's one in Autostraddle or an alternate; here's one in Vice: "...the person wearing the strap." - -sche (discuss) 08:38, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Another AutoStraddle, and Buzzfeed (quoting a tweet: "this strap is so stunning"). It's weird that it's this common online and I still can't find anything in even a magazine. - -sche (discuss) 04:06, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

Possible missing Scots (or Scottish English) verb

Chambers 1908 gives a transitive sense "to hang", glossed as Scottish. Whether it means to hang a picture on a wall, to execute a person by hanging, etc., I have no idea... Equinox ◑ 11:34, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

RFV discussion: May 2023

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strap (online cites)

Should the use of strap to mean "strap-on" be added on the basis of wide use online? Here's a meme on Reddit referencing how common it is in queer communities, a use in a Vice article ("the person wearing the strap."), in an Autostraddle article (alt, alt), Buzzfeed quoting a tweet ("this strap is so stunning"), and other random examples (of many) from Twitter and Reddit. (I'm surprised such a common word hasn't made it into printed media yet, e.g. alt-weeklies—perhaps it has and I just can't find it at Issuu because it's hard to search for this meaning amid the sea of other meanings and longer phrases like strap on.) - -sche (discuss) 01:24, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

@-sche See diff. I encounter words that are "on the line" of attestation requirements like this all the time. I can't guess if they will be able to meet Wiktionary:Attestation, or I'm not sure about them. Here's my recommendation: Go to the strap-on page, or the Citations:strap-on page, or the Citations:strap page, and add all the online cites of 'strap' you are interested in adding. Archive everything that's merely an online page of course. Then if you feel like you've reached the threshold that Citations:cheugy has met, or you feel like you're pretty much in that area, then make the senses you found on strap's entry proper. If it's less than that, you decide what you want to do. You can add some cites now and come back in a year and add more. Some of the best cites I find are not found by me searching for them directly, but accidentally stumbling into them later. (It's kind of a "mess around and find out" method.) You may find five online cites today, and then in two months find a book with an OCLC number that uses the term, and then later find more. If you don't make the sense today, the word may appear in more magazines in later years, and your work today citing these online cites may show early usages. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:23, 10 May 2023 (UTC) (Modified)

This is an interesting conversation but surely it belongs in the Tea Room not RFV? —-Overlordnat1 (talk) 11:37, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

For my part, I posted here here because this is where I've seen previous "are these online cites enough to RFV-pass this sense?" !votes happen, and that's the question I'm asking, since I can't find offline/printed cites but the term is common online. - -sche (discuss) 15:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

It seems strange to tag a new sense of a word as RFV before it's even been created but I would personally accept it as valid. It seems to me that you might as well create the new sense and then revert the RFV. --Overlordnat1 (talk) 16:33, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

I listed it because it was deleted at RFV several years ago. But alright, I've restored the sense with these cites and will archive this discussion to the talk page, or leave it to someone else to. - -sche (discuss) 18:34, 10 May 2023 (UTC)