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Hi. I'll usually respond on your talk page if you post a message on mine, as a courtesy. If you'd prefer me to reply here, please say so. Teh Rote 13:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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And see anopia for how we format words. SemperBlotto 17:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

phobia list[edit]

If you're going to update it, at least change all the links to lower-case? Linking to upper-cased titles we don't use isn't really helpful. Robert Ullmann 11:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I have changed all the links to lower-case. Conrad.Irwin 12:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused...all I was doing was reverting what I thought was vandalism. Teh Rote 21:09, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
No, it wasn't vandalism. Wiktionary uses lower case page names - however we originally had upper case page names, there is a bot that is running around deleting the redirects between the two, and it gets confused if there are lots of pages linking to the (incorrect) upper case names. So Ullmann, the bot owner went around blanking lots of pages containing lists of upper case words - hence the page said revert at will. It might seem mad to you, but it all makes sense somehow, or so they told my goldfish... Conrad.Irwin 21:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Oh, okay, thanks. As a bit of a newbie, I guess I'm not too familiar with Wiktionary's past. ;P Teh Rote 22:25, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


See WT:RFV#pluto. Passing-fad jokes don't meet Wiktionary's WT:CFI. --Connel MacKenzie 18:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Just to make it clear. "Pluto" in the sense mentioned was a very near miss: it very nearly made it into Wiktionary. Some word mavens had made it a "word to watch" or "word of the year". But word mavens don't shape the language much. There was no large piece of the public that used the word in the way the language mavens thought they might, given a nudge. Whether it is actually worth the trouble of deleting such an entry, I don't know. But we have fairly objective standards that protect us from being flooded with entries much, much worse than "pluto". We apply them uniformly at the initiative of editors who tag the entries with RfD or RfV tags. Once something is in one of those processes, "rules is rules". DCDuring TALK 21:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


You had deleted material from the RfV page. We normally let such posting remain for at least 30 days. Once it is resolved or deemed abandoned, the item is "stricken". Then we have a procedure for archiving such material. Accordingly I have rolled back your deletion. DCDuring TALK 17:15, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


Please note that IP addresses regularly change, the chances of this IP still being assigned to the person who wrote that "Masterpiece" on uncyclopedia is exceedingly unlikely to still use this IP, and thus your message could easily be given to someone with a sense of humour as small as mine :). As there is no evidence of activity from that IP address, I have deleted the page so that it can be used for Wiktionary discussion, if/when it is used by somone. Conrad.Irwin 21:05, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi again.[edit]

Just to let you know that your username is under discussion at User_talk:Connel MacKenzie#User:Teh Rote, see this for why. You don't need to comment there, as I'm fairly sure that other people will make your case for you, but if you have questions, please ask. Conrad.Irwin 21:15, 14 May 2008 (UTC)



Just FYI, Wiktionary:Quotations explains what information we like to have for quotations, and how we like to format it. :-)

RuakhTALK 23:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Calm down[edit]

I've turned down the volume of your message on Connel's talk page and replied to you there. The best thing to do when you disagree with other editors is to just ignore them, though that can be difficult. It seems to me that most of the community is currently on "your side" to put it in very confrontational terms, we won't currently let Connel block you - see your block log. I would advise you to refrain from commenting further on Connel's talk page, and just get on with having fun with words. Incidentally, I don't suppose you want to help me find Citations for the phobias? - it's tricky, but quite rewarding, and I'm getting tired of finding that none of them meet CFI. Conrad.Irwin 20:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Blockl of Thryduulf[edit]

Just so you have all of your facts, be aware that Thryduulf is an admin, and could have unblocked themself at any time, making the block sort of a token block. I've blocked other admins as a joke. I have no idea in what spirit Connel blocked Thryduulf (i.e. your complaint may still be justified), but it's not same as the block of a regular user. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 18:41, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Welcoming inactive users[edit]

Can you explain why are you doing it? --Ivan Štambuk 20:36, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Well, they just created accounts- it takes time to become active, so I was just going ahead and welcoming them. I mean, being inactive for just a few hours is not that big of a deal. Teh Rote 23:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, > 95% registered user accounts here never made a single edit, and welcoming them is not likely to affect that ratio. If you have an appetite for no-brainer edits, I suggest you inspect the projects like Wiktionary:Categorizing, or help cleaning up the entries inside Category:Requests for cleanup. --Ivan Štambuk 01:28, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
That's not exactly it. If a new user creates an account, they should probably be welcomed, but if that's not the case, whatever. Teh Rote 01:33, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome message. Could you please please have a look at the new venizelos... and check I have done it properly? Thanks in advance! A.Cython 20:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

It's at Venizelos now, where (if anywhere) it belongs.—msh210 20:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: your e-mail.[edit]


I've unblocked you again. Please don't leave any more comments on Connel's talk-page; no good can come of it. I'm pretty sure that at this point, even "Sorry I pissed you off; in the future, I'll try to be more careful" would result in his blocking you for trolling. :-P

RuakhTALK 17:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

i made a new template[edit]

Concerning the wiktionary's lack of help me templates, i created one. With scripts and everything. Try it out! Post {{help me}} on your page and see what happens! I have now devised a user-interactive system of help for the wiktionary. Isnt that great or what?


Thanks for the compliment[edit]

It took me a hellishly long time to figure it out, so i thank you for your kudos.



Yes. We don't store image files here. We went though a deliberate attempt to remove all images from Wiktionary and decided to only use images from Commons. --EncycloPetey 23:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


Would you like me to make your userpage look really nice? Thats the one thing that im really good at. Just let me know if you do. I already corrected that one error at the bottom of your userpage. If you do want me to make it look really nice, specify what exactly you want on my talk page. Here to help,


Two questions[edit]

1. About the vandalism, i want to join the anti vandalism unit, but i cant find it. And 2. I am very fluent in French, English, and Spanish. I also know bits of Italian, Dutch, Arabic, and Finnish, as well as some Arabian. So, i got the languages going, just like that one admin, only much better. As you can see, ive been adding articles concerning French phrases and terms, so after that i shall move on to Espanol and so on. So i think when the time comes i shall make a great admin. Dont you?


Sounds great. I have currently made about 25 pages (maybe more, idk), so i on my way.

just a quick one about proper names and surnames?[edit]

where do you find the origins of the surnames? example Petersen -- 04:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC) thx


I have read the ELE guidelines, and i am very sorry for the bad pages i created. I didnt know i was making the wrong ones at the time. I will now worik on making better pages.


Hey, vote for my bot![edit]

I have made a bot (not yet activated) named SinBot. Details can be found at the vote page, but please support my bot! The election is at this page. Please support me! This bot will revolutionize the war on vandalism! The7DeadlySins 18:09, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

See WT:BP#Request for Bot approval for more information. The vote can be considered postponed for the moment. Conrad.Irwin 20:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

hope you like it[edit]

Because you are such a good user, i added a "clock" to the top of your userpage. Hope you like it! The7DeadlySins 19:50, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Wanted entries[edit]

Just FYI, when requests at Wiktionary:Wanted entries are fulfilled, we typically promote words from within the commented-out portion. New requests go in the end of the commented-out portion. For example, if the existing list was this:

<small>[[va banque]] - [[diamond twill]] - [[avizandum]] - [[youthquake]] - [[jugg]] - [[town square]] - [[right to choose]] <!-- - [[Smithian]] - [[turlute]] - [[troublous]] - [[tracheomalacia]] - [[verge staff]] - [[chimerism]] --> ({{edit|Wiktionary:project-wanted_articles}})</small>

and you wanted to remove the bluelinks town square and right to choose and add the redlinks infedire and , you would typically edit it to produce this:

<small>[[va banque]] - [[diamond twill]] - [[avizandum]] - [[youthquake]] - [[jugg]] - [[Smithian]] - [[turlute]] <!-- - [[troublous]] - [[tracheomalacia]] - [[verge staff]] - [[chimerism]] - infedire - --> ({{edit|Wiktionary:project-wanted_articles}})</small>

Totally not a big deal, but you can add it to your long list of undocumented Wikiquette. :-P

RuakhTALK 02:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)


Please don't make edits like this or this. First, the WOTD is not about providing every possible definition, but about providing some of the most common or interesting definitions. Second, you fouled up the punctuation in the template with a double period. Third, those were last year's WOTD for those dates; changing them now is pointless. --EncycloPetey 22:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Very few written guidelines, I'm afraid. I've been the primary person responsible since a couple of months after the WOTD's inception, though I have had the occasional person step in to cover for a month. There is an essay (somewhere) that I wrote about selection of words, but there hasn't been a drive for me to write up much in the way of guidelines. For a situation like this, lots of written guidelines might actually be harmful, since it would forever after limit creativity and possibilities, and I think there are some "guidelines" that I use in doing WOTD that should occasionally be broken to keep things interesting. So, there will occasionally be WOTD entries that have four or five definitions, despite the fact that most of the time they just have one or two. At some point I shall have to write up a full guide to how WOTD works, but with one (and sometimes two) people doing the entire job to this point, it just hasnt been worth the investment to do so. --EncycloPetey 17:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


On bacterin, you edited quoted text; unfortunately, your edits do not conform to the sources. --Una Smith 03:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Are there some missing calls to {{...}} or something? —RuakhTALK 11:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


Which wanted page? A check for links didn't turn this up. If you mean Special:Wantedpages, then that may simply mean that some de-linking needs to occur. --EncycloPetey 03:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

No, because we don't include entries for years. That only happens on Wikpedia. --EncycloPetey 05:49, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
It looks like {{cite book}} was linkifying its (admittedly little-used) accessdate parameter; I've undone that now. (Someone probably copied that from Wikipedia without noticing.) —RuakhTALK 16:26, 26 July 2008 (UTC)


Hm, I have after a while found quite a lot of -ness words that have plurals, and I reckon this is one of them. A search on google gives quite a lot of hits, plus in the book This side of innocence. --Eivind (t) 15:51, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Miss Pelling[edit]

This is not exactly a big deal, but in your edit to manoeuvre you claim that mis-spelling is a mis-spelling of misspelling. I agree that the form with a hyphen is less common, but it occurs in many published works (mainly old ones) but also on many British websites including government, academic and newspaper sites, and even the BBC. I'm not going to revert your correction because I agree that "misspelling" is much more common today, but hyphenated forms are still preferred by many (including myself) for clarity. In fact, I was taught to spell "today" with a hyphen (as was normal a hundred years ago). Best wishes. Dbfirs 08:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Grammar books often give the opinion of the writer. This may, or may not coincide with general opinion, depending on how much research the writer has undertaken (and how opinionated he is). Many "mis-spellings" were once normal spellings. Anyway, thanks for replying, and I'm happy to stick with your edit because more people seem to be on your side! Dbfirs 17:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
(later) ... and I am not very observant, am I? I completely missed your use of "anymore" in your reply! Is this in your grammar book? Dbfirs 19:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
"Anymore" illustrates the universal trend towards combining words. Only "any more" is recognised by the OED, but the use of "any more" to mean "now" occurs in Northern Ireland, and in colloquial American English, then people begin to combine the words to form a single adverb because this is how they use it and say it. The new word "anymore" gradually becomes an alternative spelling. Of course, traditional pedants (myself included) insist that there is no such word. (I must admit, though, that I now write "website" instead of web site or web-site, so even I am influenced by this trend.) I'll leave you to get on with useful editing. Best wishes. Dbfirs 19:46, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

WOTD progress[edit]

The September words have not all been added yet. Circeus has already selected all the words for September, and they are listed here. I will be recording audio for all words that lack audio shortly (about 10 words). --EncycloPetey 23:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

It generally works best as a coordinated effort, because otherwise you have people replacing each other's words (which happened several times when we got WOTD started). I've been selecting from the nominations most months since then, but have been teaching Circeus the process for the past couple of months. It's always good to have more than one person who knows what to do. There are already plans for October, but if you're interested in learning, you can watch what Circeus does this month and into next, and maybe have a trial go at helping during November. --EncycloPetey 23:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Rhymes with hostage[edit]

That should be -ɒstidʒ. Remember that IPA /j/ is a "y"-sound, not a "j"-sound. --EncycloPetey 22:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Language order[edit]

Please do not move English entries down in to alphabetical order as you did here. Our language order is always Translingual first, English second, then all others in alphabetical order. This is the English Wiktionary, so we place English before all other languages in sequence. --EncycloPetey 17:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)


gimme a few minutes to sort them ;-) Robert Ullmann 23:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


Thank you for creating my talk page - it reminded me of creating my user page, which I just did. Take care! :) --Kroolik 08:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

wotd of the day discussion[edit]

I've added a comment to Wiktionary talk:Word of the day/Nominations about the change of antidisestablishmentarianism in the 'what to nominate' section. RJFJR 14:22, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

My IP address is blocked[edit]

Could you help me please? I'll try my best to listen. It's just SemperBlotto doesn't seem to be considerate to all editors. Dekoshu 20:42, 14 October 2008 (UTC) No really. I'm really sorry but he said "enough is enough" to me. Harsh. :( I hope you really respond to me, The Rote.

Nice try[edit]

"change was rv'd b/c listed on orig fmt as alt"

Now tell the rest of us what on earth an "orig fmt" is in this context. -- Smjg 21:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

"I reverted your revertation because on the page hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia, the two-p spelling is listed as an alternative spelling, not a misspelling. Therefore, to mark it as such on this page would be rather inconsistent."
What? The current version gives it as

Alternative spellings[edit]

  • hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia (common misspelling, perhaps on purpose, to make the word even longer)
and has done for quite a long time. If it's coming out listed as not a misspelling for you, something's amiss. -- Smjg 12:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

800-pound gorilla[edit]

Hi. I'm not in the habit of "improving" other contributors entries. But your definition is.. well .. not at all clear. I was just trying to make it somewhat more understandable to the average reader. I "borrowed" that addition from another source, BTW. But, have it your own way. -- ALGRIF talk 15:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Christmas Competition[edit]

Nice attempts, but the interposing word must begin with the final 'three letters of the preceding word only. Sorry. Game 3 may be blocked unless someone finds a word beginning with "ppo-" in some form. --EncycloPetey 18:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

What are you doing?[edit]

It seems to me that we've already been down this road before..... Connel does not want you on his talk page. Yes, he has an irrational temper at times, but that is old news. The simple fact is that he's plainly asked you to leave him alone, and then you go and randomly screw with the formatting that he set up on his talk page? I should block you..... -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 00:57, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

What happened was that a newbie added a question (something about wikidragons?) on his page, and centered the text while they were at it. That newbie then removed the question, leaving the centered text. I don't think the centered text was necessary. Teh Rote 01:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the user simply moved the center and the TOC right-align, which I admittedly did not notice. However, it was on there previously, in a different location. Nonetheless, I think it would be best if you stayed off Connel's pages, even with good intentions. Rest assured that many others have it on their watchlists, and will see stuff like that. I do apologize for jumping down your throat. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Oops, I reverted a bit too much...I'll leave the reverting his page to the admins, then. Thanks. Teh Rote 01:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
To clarify, I generally think you have enough judgment for reversion in general. Even admins make mistakes like that. I simply think you should avoid Connel's pages like the plague. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:10, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
LOL, that works. Teh Rote 01:11, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


Okay, thanks for tellimg me. 50 Xylophone Players talk 17:13, 3 December 2008 (UTC)


Hi there. The following dynamic code will show misspellings that we also have as nouns.

You can probably figure out how to look for adjectives, verbs etc. SemperBlotto 14:34, 6 December 2008 (UTC) p.s. It is quite resource hungry, so you might want to delete the code from your talk page after use.

Mispelling cleanup[edit]

Hi, [1] is all very well, but it's much more useful to replace the definition line with something like{{plural of|workoholic|nodot=t}}, a {{mispelling of|workaholic|nocap=t}} so that people only have to click one link to get a defintion. Conrad.Irwin 16:25, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

But why are you removing the inflection line templates? Conrad.Irwin 16:30, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
If I even put {{plural of}} on the page, the entry is put into Category:English plurals. The same goes with the inflection line templates: if a category exists, the infl template puts it in there. The purpose of this cleanup, specifically, is to categorize misspellings only as misspellings, unless they have additional meanings (like referer, calender, and magniferous, which are both words and misspellings). Hope that clears it up. Teh Rote 02:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Umm... removing {{en-noun}} does a lot more than remove the category, it also removes the links to inflected forms - is this intentional, or just an unfortunate circumstance? Conrad.Irwin 23:53, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't really see the point in creating inflected forms for misspellings- it seems a bit misleading, as though they're actually words. Teh Rote 14:41, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Your admin vote[edit]

In your vote, you stated that you "have learned a lot about Wiktionary practice, written and unwritten". What is this unwritten practice? --Jackofclubs 12:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

p.s. You should enable your E-mail function. --Jackofclubs 12:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
By "unwritten" practice, I mean the practices the community prefers, but hasn't yet written down. Simple but important stuff, like managing the "wantedarticles" queue, when to post on talk pages, that sort of thing. And my email function seems enabled, could you not reach me by it or something? Teh Rote 14:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


Does not appear to be a word, interestingly lexiphanicism is however. Conrad.Irwin 20:02, 14 March 2009 (UTC)