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*daďьbogъ и *perunъ[edit]

Мы не используем заглавные буквы в реконструкциях. --WikiTiki89 12:04, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Почему? В прагерманском, например, используют. Это же имя собственное, а оно пишется с заглавной буквы. Тогда уж исправьте и *Rimъ — это же реконструкция. Забавно, что эта страница была создана CodeCat (talkcontribs). Получается, что *perunъ ("молния, гром") и *Perunъ ("бог, бьющий, ударяющий, разящий (громом и молнией)") будут на одной странице — это странно, у них же разные категории. К тому же в польском первое слово дало piorun, а второе — Perun. В общем, на мой взгляд, это только запутывает, а не упрощает словарь.—Useigor (talk) 17:29, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Значит надо будет обсуждать в WT:BP. То, что два значения окажутся на одной странице, — легко решаемая проблема. --WikiTiki89 17:35, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Glagolitic OCS[edit]

I'm not sure if all these words are actually attested in Glagolitic. Then again, I don't know if all of them are attested in Cyrillic. But it does seem like something that might need discussion first; I don't know what the agreed practice is in cases like this. —CodeCat 19:11, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

  • @CodeCat, @Ivan Štambuk, i just noticed that Glagolica is not used in dictionaries (Derksen, ЭССЯ, Vasmer) but at same time i see that we use it. Maybe i'm wrong but i think that Glagolica is just alternative writing system to Cyrillic like Cyrillic and Latin in Serbo-Croatian. —Игорь Телкачь 19:30, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
    Both scripts are OK, regardless of attestation. Actual attestations should be provided on citation pages, and what is attestation and what transliteration/transcription should be indicated in the entry. There is no infrastructure for that in the templates just yet however, because it's PITA to research each word and set it up. In the meantime, Glagolitic is certainly not forbidden, even though they were ill-thought attempts by CodeCat to do just that. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 19:56, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
    Correction, my attempts were to treat Cyrillic as the main lemma and Glagolitic as alternative form. I don't know why you think I wanted to forbid Glagolitic or remove it, but if that's what you thought at the time it certainly explains the stubborn irrationality I got from you. —CodeCat 21:03, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
    Reducing Glagolitic spellings to soft-redirects that shouldn't be used outside specific environments for efficiency's sake is effectively forbidding it. It's not irrationality, but higher-order rationality. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
    I guess I was wrong, you're still making irrational claims. —CodeCat 23:26, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
    It is not surprising that you are wrong. I blame the misguided instinct to see and enforce regularity and order where there is none. --Ivan Štambuk (talk) 23:46, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Appendix:Frenkish Swadesh list[edit]

Thanks for editing some parts. Frenkish is an international auxiliary language (IAL) created by David Parke based mostly on words from the Germanic language family. There's an online dictionary page and a Facebook page. He has released two PDF files (one dictionary and one grammar), both of which are under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License version 1.2. --Glennobrien (talk) 09:35, 15 December 2014 (UTC+11:00)

квас[edit]

Привет,

Как слово "квас" связано со словом "кислый"? По-польски "кислота" - kwas, "sour" - kwaśny, но это нельзя обозначить как "cognate", скорее они имеют общие корни. Мне кажется, это не совсем правильно, то, что ты написал. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 01:41, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

1) Об их связи:
Черных: "аблаут к *kys- (*kysnǫti, *kyslъ)"
ЭССЯ: "Праслав. *kvasъ и проиводный от него глагол *kvasiti родственны *kysnǫti, *kysěti, *kysiti и производным прилагательным и существительным"
Vasmer: "с другой степенью вокализма: кислый"
Сравни с *xytiti : xvatati.
2) Значение я переписал из словаря Derksen'а (с. 258), так что все вопросы насчёт правильности к нему. —Игорь Тълкачь 02:57, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Спасибо, извини, что сразу не ответил. Посмотрю ссылки. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 01:41, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

хозяин[edit]

Привет, Игорь. Есть rfe для хозяин. Интересует? --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 00:08, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Извини, не удержался, сделал сам. Можешь поучаствовать в обсуждении или добавить что-то, если нужно. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 02:57, 23 April 2015 (UTC)