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Ends Title Status/Votes
Jan 29 Conrad.Irwin for desysoppage failed
Feb 3 User:Koavf for admin passed
Feb 25 User:Dvortygirl for debureaucrating Symbol support vote.svg9 Symbol oppose vote.svg1 Symbol abstain vote.svg1
March 28 Moving Lojban entries to the Appendix starts: Feb 27
(=4) [Wiktionary:Table of votes] (=45)

Conrad.Irwin for desysoppage

Voting on: Removing admin powers from Conrad.Irwin (talkcontribs). One of the politest and most helpful Wiktionarians ever. No edits since 2014.

Schedule:

  • Vote starts: 00:00, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23:59, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Vote created: Gente como tú (talk) 15:47, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Support

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support I'm always confusing him with User:Connel MacKenzie and User:Yair rand. --Rerum scriptor (talk) 16:26, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
    Yair still pops up now and again (hell, now that you've pinged him, he might even vote). —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:40, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
    I don't like voting in desysop votes... It always feels way too final. Needs to be done though, I suppose. --Yair rand (talk) 09:10, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support - can always be reinstated without a vote if he turns up SemperBlotto (talk) 17:04, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg SupportΜετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:40, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support, per SemperBlotto. I notice that some of Conrad's scripts in his userspace (including some listed in PREFS) are protected and some are unprotected (thereby subject to the default rules of being only editable by the owner of the userspace and admins). Should they all be unprotected so that he can still edit them, or maybe all protected for security reasons? --Yair rand (talk) 09:10, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support. I was going to make a comment on the pointlessness of the Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2017-03/Desysopping for inactivity vote, then I realised it's about something else. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 18:30, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
    Comment moved to Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2018/January#Desysopping_for_inactivity --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 20:31, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support -Xbony2 (talk) 02:18, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
  7. Symbol support vote.svg SupportInternoob 05:25, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg Support Where did he go? I know none of you can answer, but whenever "internet death" occurs, I'm always left wondering... PseudoSkull (talk) 08:24, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
    I think he got a job as Wikimedia ambassador to one of the big US libraries or something. Equinox 14:47, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
    Note that in the case that he ever comes back and is active again, I am in favor of immediate resysopping. PseudoSkull (talk) 18:17, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
    @Equinox, wasn't that Dmcdevit?​—msh210 (talk) 16:10, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
    Oh! You are very possibly right, yeah. Sorry. Equinox 05:07, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    His name is on this (scroll to the bottom). —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करेंयोगदान) 03:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  9. Symbol support vote.svg Support, per SemperBlotto. Leasnam (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose I hoped that Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2017-03/Desysopping for inactivity would end these desysop-for-inactivity votes, but alas. Anyway, I see no reason to depart from the principles of that vote (that that policy goes unenforced is beside the point). Conrad.Irwin's last admin action was in August 2014, so that would suggest desysopping can go ahead after about 3.5 years. That period is too short, in my opinion. Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 11:19, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
  2. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose We have an established policy for this process, and there are no extenuating circumstances that lead me to believe we should deviate from it. - TheDaveRoss 13:28, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
  3. Symbol oppose vote.svg OpposeAryamanA (मुझसे बात करेंयोगदान) 14:22, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
  4. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per TheDaveRoss. (Though actually that's just a convenience excuse; my real reason is that Conrad.Irwin is great, and I hope he'll come back.) —RuakhTALK 07:19, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
  5. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose DonnanZ (talk) 14:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
  6. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per TheDaveRoss — Bukhari (Talk!) 09:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  7. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per LBD and TDR. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 16:16, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
  8. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose per the above comments. Finsternish (talk) 19:57, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
    Late oppose per Lingo Bingo Dingo and TheDaveRoss; desysopping for inactivity is governed by Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2017-03/Desysopping for inactivity and requires no per-admin vote. The present vote was created by Wonderfool (User:Gente como tú, User:Rerum scriptor), who liked to create desysop votes and was disappointed when that occasion ceased, per Wiktionary_talk:Votes/pl-2017-03/Desysopping_for_inactivity#No more WF votes?. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:07, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    @Dan Polansky One tiny quibble: Rerum scriptor is not Wonderfool, though the vote creator is. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 14:11, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    Lingo Bingo Dingo: I find it likely that Rerum scriptor is Wonderfool. There are multiple hints; one is that the user name is a pun on another user's name; another one is the creation of Wiktionary:Votes/bc-2018-01/User:Dvortygirl for debureaucrating, which is Wonderfool's sport. There are other signs, I believe. --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:14, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    By the way, User talk:Rerum scriptor is a conversation WF is having with himself. --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:21, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    @Dan Polansky See User talk:Per utramque cavernam#Adminship. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 14:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    Rerum scriptor is (was?) pretending to be WF, but is actually Barytonesis. —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करेंयोगदान) 14:34, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    Thank you. My mistake, then. --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:41, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Abstain

Decision

Fails 9–8. —Stephen (Talk) 11:47, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


User:Koavf for admin

Nomination: I hereby nominate Koavf (talkcontribs) as a local English Wiktionary Administrator. Friendly, polite and experienced contributor; I believe he'll put the admin tools to good use.

See User_talk:Koavf#Adminship for previous discussion.

Schedule:

  • Vote starts: 10:59, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23:59, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Vote created: Rerum scriptor (talk) 10:59, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Acceptance:

  • Languages: en-N, es-2, de-1, pt-1 (and 1 on other Romance languages)
  • Timezone: UTC+ 4
Thanks to Rerum for the nomination. @Equinox, PseudoSkull: who commented on my talk regarding this. Also @AryamanA, Daniel Carrero, Donnanz who may have opinions on this topic pro- or con- and @Metaknowledge, DTLHS, wikitiki89, xbony2, Andrew Sheedy, Victar, Robbie SWE, Mahagaja, Vahagn Petrosyan since they voted on me before for another issue. I would encourage everyone to take a look at this unsuccessful CheckUser vote and the recent discussion of de-sysopping 19 admins for context, and this cross-activity tool or Special:CentralAuth/Koavf to get an idea of what I do around the WMF projects and how I've used advanced user rights elsewhere; I've been on this project since 2005 and have become much more active since 2013 or so. If anyone has concerns, questions, etc. I'll be happy to address them. —Justin (koavf)TCM 14:49, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Support

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support -Xbony2 (talk) 15:10, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support We did have a serious clash a while ago, but since then we have been able to co-operate. So I'm prepared to give Justin a chance, he would probably be a better admin than I ever would (I have no ambitions). DonnanZ (talk) 16:57, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support, you had me at "ping" :-) --Robbie SWE (talk) 19:46, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support I know this user to be extremely nice and happy and positive. Also, Koavf is a very trustworthy editor both here and on other projects, and has been here a long time. He really knows his way around and knows what he's doing, and clearly enjoys to do what he does. PseudoSkull (talk) 18:22, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support I have encountered Koavf across several Wikimedia projects and though we have had disagreements, his manner is polite and respectful. Green Giant (talk) 23:54, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
  6. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Tom 144 (𒄩𒇻𒅗𒀸) 00:52, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  7. Symbol support vote.svg Support I had oppositions to Koavf being a bureaucrat, but I think he'd be a great admin. —AryamanA (मुझसे बात करेंयोगदान) 15:26, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg SupportJberkel 15:49, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  9. Symbol support vote.svg Support Equinox 22:23, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
  10. Symbol support vote.svg Support --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 00:30, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
  11. Symbol support vote.svg Support = TheDaveRoss 13:05, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
  12. Symbol support vote.svg SupportVorziblix (talk · contribs) 21:04, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
  13. Symbol support vote.svg SupportMahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 09:21, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
  14. Symbol support vote.svg SupportUngoliant (falai) 01:06, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
  15. Symbol support vote.svg Support ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 13:39, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Oppose

Abstain

Decision

Passes 15–0. Could a bureaucrat amend my user rights, please? Thanks to whomever does and everyone for the vote of confidence. —Justin (koavf)TCM 16:46, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Done. Add your name to WT:Admins, please. —Stephen (Talk) 00:27, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

User:Dvortygirl for debureaucrating

Nomination: Removing bureaucrat powers from Dvortygirl (talkcontribs). Practically inactive.

Schedule:

  • Vote starts: 12:11, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23:59, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
    • Vote extended to 23:59, 25 February 2018 (UTC), a month after a notification was posted to the talk page of Dvortygirl. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:07, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Vote created: Rerum scriptor (talk) 12:11, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Support

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support 4 edits in 2017, 4 edits in 2016, and so on. Marginally active, but this user would have no need for the 'crat tools. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:49, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support - While I would much prefer she return to the project, and I would much prefer we simply had a policy for removal after a period of inactivity, I think it is best that we not have inactive bureaucrats. - TheDaveRoss 15:44, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support: I agree with Dave above. --Victar (talk) 01:30, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg SupportInternoob 04:26, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support Last edit is from 28 August 2017; last admin action is from 9 February 2013, nearly 5 years ago. (Special:Contributions/Dvortygirl, Special:Log/Dvortygirl). This does seem worthy of debureucrating to me per no admin action for nearly 5 years, and such a policy was proposed in Wiktionary:Votes/2017-05/Removing bureaucrat and checkuser rights for inactivity. While that policy had no consensus, the reasons for opposition varied: two opposers wanted the inactivity be specified in terms of editing, not admin actions; one opposer of that policy said that 5 years was too long, and two opposers did not state their reasons.

    I would like to encourage voters in the present vote to state their reasons so that we can see what sort of policy has the best chance of passing. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:34, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

  6. Symbol support vote.svg Conditional support if Dvortygirl hasn't used admin or bureaucrat tools (analogous to "Desysopping for inactivity") when this vote ends on 25 February 2018. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 14:05, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
  7. Symbol support vote.svg Conditional support same as Lingo Bingo Dingo above Finsternish (talk) 21:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg Conditional support same as Lingo Bingo Dingo and Finsternish. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 13:18, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
  9. Symbol support vote.svg SupportSaltmarsh. 05:34, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Oppose

  1. Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose At least Dvortygirl has a user page. DonnanZ (talk) 14:43, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
    Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose, but only marginally. I think she should be notified of an impending removal of powers with about a month response time, so she can decide whether she wants to keep them or not. My understanding is that supporting this vote would permit immediate removal of bureaucrat rights. Her last admin action was in February 2013 however, so that was almost 5 years ago. I think 5 years of non-use is in principle a good criterion for debureaucratting as well. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 13:56, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
    Yes, this is rather bad form to do this in her back. I've left a message on her talkpage. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 18:47, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
    Changed vote to "conditional support". ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 14:05, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    Symbol oppose vote.svg Oppose Same reason as above. Finsternish (talk) 13:08, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
    @Finsternish: Which reasons? Those of Donnanz or those of Lingo Bingo Dingo? --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:35, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    Lingo Bingo Dingo. Finsternish (talk) 11:16, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    @Finsternish. Thank you. Lingo Bingo Dingo says: " I think 5 years of non-use is in principle a good criterion for debureaucratting as well". And that criterion is now nearly met, per my comment: just a couple of days are missing to make up 5 years since last admin action. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    It looks to me like what they meant by "in principle" was that it made sense to simply try to inform her, give it a month, and then do it, but that otherwise 5 years was plenty of time. Finsternish (talk) 11:59, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    @Finsternish: There is now a notification at User_talk:Dvortygirl#Transparency, from 24 January 2018. Would you be okay with debureaucratting on 25 February 2018 if we do not hear from Dvortygirl until then? --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    Of course. Finsternish (talk) 12:41, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    @Dan Polansky, Finsternish Finsternish's reading of "in principle" is correct, my opposition depended on the lack of in-built response time. So removing bureaucrat privileges on 25 February would be all right in my book. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 13:48, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    @Lingo Bingo Dingo: Since Dvortygirl was notified and since I extended the vote to Feb 25, what would you think about a conditional support, like "Conditional support if Dvortygirl does not oppose until Feb 25", "Conditional support if, by February 25, Dvortygirl does not express a wish to keep the flag" or whatever wording you prefer? --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    Yes check.svg Done ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 14:05, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
    also Yes check.svg Done Finsternish (talk) 21:15, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Abstain

  1. Symbol abstain vote.svg Abstain for now. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 18:47, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
  2. I think we should follow the principle of least privilege, and not have inactive bureaucrats, but I also think that since she has still been around the site, editing within the last six months, it would be better to reach out and see if she wants to try to be more active, or conversely would give up her bureaucrat rights since she is not using them. - -sche (discuss) 23:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
  3. I agree with -sche. I'm not on Twitter, but via Google, I see Dvortygirl (or at least, someone with the same real-world name she used to have, looking similar and having similar interests) is, as @Dvortygirl, if anyone wants to contact her. --Enginear 17:57, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Decision


Moving Lojban entries to the Appendix

Voting on: Moving all Lojban entries from mainspace to Appendix space, e.g. rafsi#Lojban to Appendix:Lojban/rafsi. All Lojban translations in mainspace would also be removed, but Lojban could still be linked to in other contexts. Lojban would also be removed from the list at WT:CFI#Constructed languages.

Rationale: Lojban was never widely used, and has an extremely small corpus. The baseline grammar was published in 1997, and an incredibly small amount of durably archived material has been produced since then. The Library of Congress Online Catalog, in fact, does not even have books or periodicals in Lojban from three independent authors (one of the attestation criteria all Lojban words are subject to). Searching for books not listed there and written entirely in Lojban on Google Books has proved unsuccessful. Just because a constructed language is notable doesn't mean that we should necessarily have mainspace entries in it if those entries would nearly all get deleted at RFV if they were to be sent there, and indeed we keep somewhat better attested languages like Klingon in appendix space as well.

Schedule:

  • Vote starts: 00:00, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
  • Vote ends: 23:59, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Vote created: —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:05, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Discussion:

Support

Oppose

Abstain

Decision


Proposed votes

The following are proposals for new votes, excluding nominations, such that the proposer of the vote prefers that the vote is written collaboratively, or such that the vote appears to require substantial revision. If you have not created a passing vote yet, it is recommended that you use this section and actively solicit feedback by linking to your proposal in discussion; your vote may have a better chance of passing if it is first reviewed.

Votes may linger here indefinitely. If changes in policy make a proposal irrelevant, the voting page will be requested for deletion. On the other hand, you do not have to be the creator to initiate one of the votes below. Place any votes with a live start date in the section above at least a few days before that start date arrives.

Votes intended to be written collaboratively or substantially revised: