Talk:He

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Since we have an entry for the capitalised pronoun He for God, I suppose we ought to have Thee, Thou, Thy, You, etc. Equinox 17:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

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He

...and Him, His, Himself. See Talk:Him and Talk:His. He is sometimes capitalized when referring to God or another important figure, but so are, among other things, all the other pronouns: "Thy" (google books:"is Thy love, O God"), "Your" (google books:"is Your love, O God", "receive You in Holy Communion every day; grant me the power to help others, who do not know You or who have lost You, to find You in one of the temples of Your love" — Liguorian, 44, page 726), "My" ("My blessed daughter and son: I am grateful for the love and devotion that you have expressed and conveyed, pertaining to My Only Begotten Son (The Lord Jesus) and Me!" — Barbara Ann Mary Mack, The Present Testament Volume Three, 2011, ISBN 1463404344), etc. The capitalization follows a general (optional) rule of the language and isn't specific to these words; compare how one says "many cities have a mayor / water authority / etc", but when referring to a specific one a person can capitalize it as "there was a scheduling conflict and the Mayor could not attend the opening of the new Water Authority building", etc. - -sche (discuss) 17:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

  • Keep: appears to be a distinct sense from he. Also, don't think the comparison to Mayor is really analogous; in the context quoted abovd, Mayor is actually a clipped form of a title, Mayor of [INSERT TOWN HERE], just like when you see "the President", it's a clipped form of "the President of the United States". "He" is a pronoun, not a clipped form. Purplebackpack89 18:58, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
  • DeleteΜετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:21, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep. I think He is generally used for God of Abrahamic religions, not for a god. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 02:35, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete. Other pronouns like One and Who are also often capitalized in reference to God, and it isn't just the pronouns; common nouns are often capitalized when they refer to God or things that are God's, e.g. [1] King, Savior, Rock, Word, Son, Name. This is a stylistic rule about capitalization, not a lexical property of these words. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 04:53, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete. Ƿidsiþ 09:53, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep - not just a capitalized form as used at the start of a sentence. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:03, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Keep. These are non-standard capitalisations that need explanation. Using He for God (as in the Christian god) is quite common. Words that are typically lower case but upper case for titles, like Mayor, President, etc, should have separate entries and not be relegated to a usage note. But personally I think the mayor example is getting away from the topic.--Dmol (talk) 10:11, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
  • Delete and add a "(with capital)" entry at "he" if desired. A separate entry is making too big a deal out of something that is just a stylistic choice for emphasis. 109.153.244.129 00:41, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Kept. bd2412 T 02:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)