Talk:beghilos

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RFV discussion: November 2011–February 2012[edit]

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Calculator alphabet. Is mentioned in Wikipedia but tagged as original research. Nothing much in Google Books or Groups. Equinox 00:25, 3 November 2011 (UTC)Reply

Deleted. - -sche (discuss) 21:13, 5 February 2012 (UTC)Reply


RFV discussion: July–September 2020[edit]

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A fun method of displaying words like "BOOBIES" on a calculator by entering appropriate digits and then turning the calculator upside down, or the limited alphabet so used. Was previously deleted at RFV; see Talk:beghilos. Plenty of Google hits, but probably more mentions/definitions than uses, and many sources, being "random websites", forums, user comments etc., would probably not meet our criteria. I wonder whether any combination of the following, and/or any others that other people may be able to find, would suffice and allow us to restore this fine word.

http://www.worldwidewords.org/weirdwords/ww-beg1.htm
"The answer 13093134 when read in beghilos reads as heleboel which in Dutch means ‘lots, a whole lot, an awful lot’."
https://www.theguardian.com/education/datablog/2014/jan/10/words-you-can-write-on-a-calculator
"Calculator spelling is known as 'beghilos' because most words have to use those letters."
https://thequietus.com/articles/21407-trump-president-ballard-sex
"Women, to him, are calculators with BOOBIES typed out in beghilos."
https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/08/monday-puzzle-fun-on-display/
"The subset of the alphabet that is available on a calculator display has been called the beghilos alphabet, based on the letters available."
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Q0AoDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA46&dq=beghilos
"Did you know that spelling on a calculator is called beghilos, because those are the most frequently used numbers. I mean numbers that can look like letters, on a calculator."

Mihia (talk) 08:41, 19 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

RFV closed. Out of scope of this page. DTLHS (talk) 22:15, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Reopened. Not out of scope when I am asking whether these citations are sufficient to pass RFV which previously failed and/or requesting further ones. Mihia (talk) 22:25, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
It seems more like a tea room item, but, since you're here....
All of the above seem like mentions or are not durably archived.
I found a conference paper title: Literacy for Living Conference Papers. Australian Council for Adult Literacy National Conference (12th, Brisbane, Australia, 1988), Norton, Marian, Ed. This document contains 43 papers on many aspects of adult literacy: "Beghilos and the Pig Problem" (Hawke).
You would think Usenet would be a good place for them, but I didn't find any hits on Usenet, just a few on Google Groups. DCDuring (talk) 22:40, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for looking. At least two of mine (worldwidewords and thequietus) are not mentions/definitions as quoted, but I am not clear about the "durably archived" rules, so I take your word on that. I feel that this is a "word" that does somehow "exist", so I feel we should be able to accommodate it. Mihia (talk) 22:49, 20 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

I have put what uses we could find on the citations page, grouped by whether the source is durably archived. The result is close, but not quite enough to pass RFV. Kiwima (talk) 23:36, 14 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Kiwima Thanks for that. So, we just need one more "durably archived" citation, right? Mihia (talk) 22:29, 6 September 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Mihia: Yes, that's what it looks like to me. Kiwima (talk) 23:08, 6 September 2020 (UTC)Reply