Talk:参

Pinyin

Isn't the pinyin for this "shēn"? As in "renshen" (ginseng)? 69.81.158.35 04:43, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Done. 24.93.170.200 20:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Additional definition

Shouldn't sea cucumber be added into the second definition? 24.93.170.200 20:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciations

Why does the entry for the traditional version of this character contain 6 pronunciations, and this entry only 2? 24.93.170.200 20:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Japanese readings

Moving here from Fumiko's talk page, as she has deleted my otherwise-on-topic post.

Hi. The "historical readings" refer to 歴史的仮名遣い. Did you mean for -む readings to be "archaic readings"? (See Template:ja-readings#Format.) —Suzukaze-c◆◆ 20:12, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

@Suzukaze-c, fixed; suggesting separate ja-readings for "Three Stars, group of three (or to group), variant kanji for 'three'" for simplicity. ～ POKéTalker (T◉C) 00:27, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

@POKéTalker, I think the use of 参 as a formal alternative for 三 are based on use of the kan'on reading -- I don't believe this usage supersedes or replaces the goon for 参. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 03:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Pinging @Dine2016, Eirikr, Justinrleung, Suzukaze-c, Tooironic, Wyang, others not called; here's my findings (Jigen, book, top left corner and Jigen, online version):

1. 參 (MC srim, “carrot, ginseng”) and 參 (MC tsrhim, “uneven”) is しん in both goon and kan'on
2. 參 (MC tshom) and 參 (MC tshomH) would be そん in goon and is definitely さん in kan'on (maybe both)
3. 參 (MC sam), the financial form for "three", is definitely さん in both goon and kan'on

Both shin and son/san are used for the "Three Stars mansion" sense (maybe?). Son/San has the "add, combine, mix" senses. The sources have 参る (mairu) for shin with kokugo label, but san also has mairu without the label. Here's another reference if you want to explore: Kan-Wa Daijiten. What does your sources say? ～ POKéTalker（═◉═） 01:03, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

参 in Traditional Chinese Characters

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字詞 【参】 部首：厶 部首外筆畫數：6 總筆畫數：8注音 ㄙㄢ漢語拼音 sān釋義[名]三的大寫。 [1] --Geographyinitiative (talk) 23:48, 17 July 2021 (UTC)