Talk:hawk tuah

RFD discussion: July 2024

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hawk tuah

Tagged, originally as a speedy, but not listed. — SURJECTION ^{/ T / C / L /} 06:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

💀 --{{victar|talk}} 06:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• Keep (for now) and tag as "hot word" - I'm sceptical that this lasts a year, but I definitely imagine it entering the slang lexicon and I'm pretty sure it's citeable in three independent sources: the original coinage (and all the online articles quoting it), plus at least three songs listed on genius.com.

• 2024, “Hawk Tuah”, performed by ANTH:

  Gimme that hawk tuah/She ain't playing no games when she gimme that brain/I need that hawk tuah

• 2024, “hawk tuah (interlude)”, in Dear Joe,, performed by Jax:
• 2024, “Hawk Tuah!”, performed by Reyna:

  Don't you miss those walks in the park?/We'd feed the ducks and then I'd hawk tuah

Smurrayinchester (talk) 09:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

• Keep. This one isn't going anywhere, because it concisely and onomatopœically describes a longstanding but heretofore unnamed popular practice. bd2412 T 02:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
• Keep No rationale provided for deletion Purplebackpack89 11:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• We keep similar onomatopoeia, so I see no reason to delete this other than if it's unattested, which is an RFV issue. I say hot word it and check back later. I know "hot words" are only exempt from "spanning a year", they still have to have cites—and while songs released on CD / archivable media are archived by libraries, I don't think uploading something to YouTube in song form makes it any more "archived" than anything else online, so it seems like the songs above probably aren't "durable" and would have to be discussed as internet sources—but if anyone thinks cites are unlikely to become available, they can move this to RFV and it'll sit there for at least a month (often longer), probably enough time for cites to come out (or for use of the term to die off enough to make us think it won't actually merit hotwording). - -sche (discuss) 15:47, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

  It's definitely a hot word (or hot expression) since it has become pretty popular online. I've heard it used on several Twitter/X spaces as well. mynewfiles (talk) 22:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

• Keep It's definitely a hot word (or hot expression) since it has become pretty popular online. I've heard it used on several Twitter/X spaces as well.
• Keep, its lasting a year is guaranteed by merchandise. It also has international attention slowing it down and hence reinvigorating it. Fay Freak (talk) 22:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
• Keep Leasnam (talk) 15:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

• Abstain. I don't care how "hot" it is or not, I won't be using it. DonnanZ (talk) 16:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

@Donnanz: Why not? PUC – 17:28, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

It's not compulsory, and hardly the King's English. DonnanZ (talk) 19:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

@Donnanz: You gotta move with the times! PUC – 08:19, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

No way! DonnanZ (talk) 09:35, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

An ancient person is like a living museum, you ought not to destroy antiquated items in a museum. Now anent this rfd, cham ne goand to nait this term either- but on sunderly grounds: chould strive to brook thorply tongue; however I cast my vote only for words I am personally interested in. Inqilābī 13:30, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

@Donnanz Please take this process seriously. You may find the term repugnant or annoying, but that's not a rationale for deletion. Not being "King's English" isn't either. Purplebackpack89 13:01, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

@Purplebackpack89: Read it all again. I am abstaining, not voting delete, and yes, you're right, it is repugnant. DonnanZ (talk) 13:45, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Weak Keep/Abstain. My concern is actually that the IPA transcription in the entry doesn't seem to be accurate. At least there should be a distinguishment 'tween the meme as a name and being imitated, since I've seen and heard the difference. Shouldn't there be a symbol or 2 for the guttural sounds of coughing up a loogie? Like shouldn't be transcribed as */'haʕq/ or so? Sigehelmus (talk) 07:30, 26 July 2024 (UTC)

Speedy keep Several have voted keep, only the nominator has voted delete Purplebackpack89 01:55, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

User:Purplebackpack89 Please read w:Snowball clause. This clearly does not apply here, so your speedy keep was in error. Benwing2 (talk) 03:25, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

@Benwing2 Your undoing of my close is what is in error (and you would not have undone it if it were anyone else). What is the cause for this remaining open? The editor who added the tag didn't even vote or provide a rationale. There's no rationale for deleting this at all. I fundamentally ask you: why should this still be open? Purplebackpack89 12:59, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

I have blocked @Purplebackpack89 for three days, as their behaviour is becoming seriously disruptive and their unwavering claims of being victimised are becoming unmanageable. This is far from the first block they have received for disruptive behaviour. Theknightwho (talk) 14:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

Bad and POINTY block by Theknightwho, who I might add has kicked up drama hither and yon defending a clearly bad block. Blocking somebody for criticizing a close, or an undo of a close, is highly inappropriate. Blocking somebody for feeling victimized is 1984 territory. Criticism is disruption and criticizing an admin should NOT be a blockable offense.Purplebackpack89 14:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Not the most co-operative user, see RFD for #Sandy Lane. DonnanZ (talk) 15:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

I agree that this was not a good block. bd2412 T 00:28, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@BD2412 It was not due to this incident in isolation. Theknightwho (talk) 01:35, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

@Theknightwho: I can see that. Nonetheless, a block seems excessive in response to the totality of the conduct being addressed. I would like to see diffs for the conduct asserted to support a block in this case, but this is not the forum for that, so I will open a discussion at the Beer Parlour and ping all parties there. bd2412 T 01:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

RFD-kept - nobody advocating for deletion here. This, that and the other (talk) 10:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)