Talk:more

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Another meaning[edit]

I know adverbs modify a verb ('run more') but what do we call it when a word modifies an adjective?

In this case "x is more violent than y" for example. I don't know what to call 'more' in this context. Etym (talk) 23:20, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

It's an adverb or maybe a determiner. See entry. Equinox 23:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

German has NO translation for "more" as a particle to form comparative![edit]

Well, I'm native German and I think I know my language well enough to say that the translation of "more" as a comparative form is Ø. In other words: NIL. Nothing. In English you say "difficult" which corresponds to German schwierig; and "more difficult" which corresponds to German schwieriger. So the German rule of thumb with the comparative is that an -er suffix is appended to the adjective. But you must not translate this use of "more" to "mehr". That's wrong. Corrected! -andy 77.190.13.94 06:01, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Noun[edit]

According to the American Heritage Dictionary it is a noun, so I have removed the label. 76.5.135.223 02:51, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

You also removed the headword template. Aside from that, that doesn't solve the problem. I would say it's neither a noun nor a pronoun: it's really an adjective with the item it modifies omitted. When you say "we need to sell more", you're really saying "we need to sell more <something>". When you say "the more the merrier", you're really saying "the more <people/guests/whoever>, the merrier". The mere fact that it uses "the" doesn't change that, since we're not claiming that "merrier" is a noun, too. It's just an idiomatic construction with "the <comparative form of an adjective construction> the <comparative form of an adjective with a qualitative connotation>, as in "the sooner the better", or "the spicier the better", etc. I'll have to see if there's a discussion on this at WT:RFC. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:33, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

RFC[edit]

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I'm not certain that especially the first two definitions under determiner and adverb belong to each, and there seems to be the pronoun POS missing altogether. Can anyone have a look? (I'd rather not meddle with it myself as in my native language "determiner" is only considered a function, not a POS in its own right, so I'm afraid I might make more damage than good.) --Duncan 10:32, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

A determiner can serve in a pronomial capactiry (in English and Spanish), so the pronoun sense isn't missing. It looks as thoought the pronomial sense has been listed as a "Noun", and I'm not sure that's correct. I'll have a look at the entry. --EncycloPetey 17:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
I've combined the apparently synonymous defintions, which reduces the number of definitions to 2, 2, and 1. Does that look better? I do think, however, that we might want to call the "noun" sense a "pronoun" instead, but that would affect a number of entries if we do. --EncycloPetey 17:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, it's much better now. Yes, I think that the "noun" sense is in fact either a pronoun or an adverb, but certainly not noun - at least not in the examples given. --Duncan 20:28, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
In the definitions, "more many/more much" - this sounds horrible --Volants 15:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
  1. Comparative form of many: more many., in greater number. (for a discrete quantity)
  2. Comparative form of much: more much., in greater quantity, amount, or proportion. (for a continuous quantity)
Well, I've made it stop saying "more many". - -sche (discuss) 06:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
Struck. The etry was detagged months ago. - -sche (discuss) 02:22, 10 December 2013 (UTC)