User talk:Rich Farmbrough

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See my comments at Wiktionary:Administrators if u'd be so kind --Wonderfool 22:48, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Sindarian

Is that for real?? we don't seem to have an entry for the language. SemperBlotto 21:57, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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JavaScript

I've noticed you seem to be doing some really neat stuff with the JavaScript.

Bravo!

I'm not sure the way you are addressing double redirects is quite right though. On the English Wiktionary, we tend to want redirects to point only to the properly capitalized entry...that is, a capitalized inflected form of a word should redirect to the lower case inflection with the same spelling. That entry (in turn) should describe the details about that form of the word (e.g. Past participle of whatever) and list translations, pronunciations etc. for that form.

I periodically run off line tools that list erroneous redirects. As far as I know, only idioms are exempt from the rule of redirecting only to correct capitalization.

Anyway, you do seem more comfortable with JavaScript than I am. Please keep at it! Every experiment seems valuable. --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:20, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Template:References

Hi! I see you've created that template, and I'm curious; what's the benefit to using a template to add references rather than <references/> directly? It seems unnecessary, and it breaks/circumvents the ref-no-refs abuse filter tag... - -sche (discuss) 06:49, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

pur sang

Please see the formatting changes I have made. It's standard to use {{term}}, and WT:ELE dictates that the etymology come first. Thanks! --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 18:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I will endeavour to follow the appropriate guidelines, but must perforce rely on the regulars here. Rich Farmbrough, 18:33, 8 September 2012 (UTC).

Please skim through WT:ELE. For example, only language names get headers like ==this==. Also, please format your quotations per WT:QUOTE. Thanks! --Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 18:53, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for νευρολογία

Thanks for adding νευρολογία — please add {{attn|el}} to any Greek creations (or with the appropriate language letters for others) when you're not sure of the layout. If you do that we can ensure that it has the standard appearance. If you don't it might be many years before it receives suitable ammendment!.
I have remarked out the mainly "latin" quotation - it lacks a translation and might be appropriate if modern quotations were not available. — Saltmarsh. 07:26, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

The quotation is the first recorded use of the word, and as such, maybe relevant. Rich Farmbrough, 10:47, 29 March 2022 (UTC).

Slang

fuck my old brown boots or fuck my old boots. Putatively military origin. UK. Song by Membranes. I heard the former c. 1984. Rich Farmbrough, 15:12, 25 August 2021 (UTC).

FMB alone seems 21st century according to Google Books. Rich Farmbrough, 16:00, 25 August 2021 (UTC).

Dialect

si thi (see thee) Rotherham. Rich Farmbrough, 12:17, 14 September 2021 (UTC).

Listed as sithee. 10:39, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Both a defn (hyphenated) and an example (under far) can be found [here (1868). 10:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Obs, ME, OE

1. alcumist and cow'd
   • https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Dictionary_of_National_Biography_volume_36.djvu/188
2. aldebest(sp?) See also Anglo Saxon Magic, Robin Hood
   • c.1390, Geoffrey Chaucer, Canterbury Tales:

     But alderbest he sang an offertory: / For well he wiste, when that song was sung, / He muste preach […].

Rich Farmbrough, 06:15, 15 September 2021 (UTC).

bishy barnybee

• https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-is-a-ladybird-called-a-bishy-barnabee-
• Notes and Queries Vol 1 Issue 1(2?). ff?

Rich Farmbrough, 10:41, 15 September 2021 (UTC).

chuff

• Dr Johnsons Dictionary (n.b. derived words)

Rich Farmbrough, 07:23, 30 March 2022 (UTC).

metobelus

• http://textualcriticism.scienceontheweb.net/TEXT/diacrit.html

Rich Farmbrough, 21:18, 11 April 2022 (UTC).

genticide

Earlier refs. Rich Farmbrough, 13:38, 14 April 2022 (UTC).

toties quoties (Latin tag)

Example: (19C) [1] p3. Rich Farmbrough, 22:46, 17 September 2022 (UTC).

with a wet finger

easily see Brewer. see also [2] (1970?) Rich Farmbrough, 23:21, 17 September 2022 (UTC).

birl

• [3] Birling
• [4] nb OE
• [5]
• [6]
• [7]
• [8] [9] (another copy or ed?)
• [10]
• [11]
• [12] Phil Soc Word Book, Letter B, Will Gee, 1863

Rich Farmbrough, 07:36, 20 September 2022 (UTC).

gretest = greatest

• [13] Rich Farmbrough, 13:04, 22 September 2022 (UTC).
  

pup edition and bulldog edition

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldog_edition#Purpose
2. https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2002/bulldog-edition/
3. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=C8lZAAAAYAAJ&q=%22bulldog+edition%22&dq=%22bulldog+edition%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi3h9Tmu835AhVVmFwKHSe8DkwQ6AF6BAgCEAI
4. https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/Comedia_de_Calisto_y_Melibea_Burgos_1499/ahvRZBSjp4kC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22bulldog+edition%22&dq=%22bulldog+edition%22&printsec=frontcover uses bulldog and bull dog
5. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=T3w1AQAAMAAJ&q=%22bulldog+edition%22&dq=%22bulldog+edition%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi3h9Tmu835AhVVmFwKHSe8DkwQ6AF6BAgIEAI claims pup is before bulldog. c 1906 snippet

   5 seems to have no reference to bulldog editions, though it has bulldog-toed. I think a different volume of the same magazine is what was meant. Action required.

Rich Farmbrough, 09:39, 18 January 2023 (UTC).

twopenny-halfpenny

• [14] Poss nice quote from Review of Reviews.
• [15] twopenny halfpenny blurred size and value meanings, John Howard. 1784
• [16] twopenny halfpenny writer of trumpery 1801
• [17] twopence halfpenny sum of money, 1718 [18] do. 1626

Rich Farmbrough, 13:38, 28 September 2022 (UTC).

Episcopus : ep. : eps : epus => bishop

Latin, and abbreviations for same. Cap if before name of bishopric, e.g. Epus Sarum Also Comes/comes for count. Rich Farmbrough, 13:36, 4 October 2022 (UTC).

kudeemee and mourosee

Forms of leasehold(?) in India. [19] Rich Farmbrough, 14:21, 11 October 2022 (UTC).

porage

• Quotation (last para, W. Darling). Rich Farmbrough, 16:15, 10 November 2022 (UTC).
  

slow boat,slowboat, slow-boat

Rich Farmbrough, 13:41, 11 December 2022 (UTC).

wynch

Obs sp winch. Rich Farmbrough, 18:05, 13 January 2023 (UTC).

bayl

Obs/ME(?) sp bail. See example, here. "...in the chancery and upon the layd writ condemmyd he shall not be set at bayl...". Rich Farmbrough, 18:05, 13 January 2023 (UTC).

sachem/sagamore

Spanish also, used by different tribes w. same meaning. [Francisco Álvarez (Natural del Principado de Asturias)] Tammany Hall (and other Tammany socs.) - prefix Grand or Gran(?) to distinguish, see WP. Rich Farmbrough, 11:05, 18 January 2023 (UTC).

Inverted asterism

• https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EGBwwNpRka0C&pg=PA41&dq=%22suett%22+butter&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjEkOHHqff8AhVj_7sIHRh0BsE4FBDoAXoECAYQAg#v=onepage&q=%22suett%22%20butter&f=false
• Notes and Queries* ...
• First ed of a Henry Miller book, ISTR?

puerro chino

Chinese chives - distinguish chives, Dom Rep. Spanish for the latter? Rich Farmbrough, 20:46, 2 February 2023 (UTC).

Reduplication in Swahili

https://d-nb.info/1238150187/34

Butt of malmsey

Sent Ienkins sonne to Candy than,
To buy some malmsey if he can,
Where Ienkin was wel knowne.
He neuer came in any place,
But men did maruaile at his face,
So rested with the Copper mace,
And set with pearle and stone,
To whom drinke you, &c.
And Ienkin went to sée his sonne,
Woe worth the time that he begunne,
He was drowned in a malmzey tunne,
alacke and well away:

• 1606 https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/A21208.0001.001/1:2.8?rgn=div2;view=fulltext

tarfun/TARFUN

After snafu acro. "things are really fucked up now."

Banketting

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OLFoAAAAcAAJ&pg=PP177&dq=%22bancketting%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwja-6f_rIP-AhVbSEEAHa2qD5gQ6AF6BAgJEAI#v=onepage&q=%22bancketting%22&f=false

[gore blood] n gory

Foxe

a bit rich

...

[Mm]ock[- ]beggar (Hall|Wharf|Castle)

• Mockbeggar Wharf
• R. Harper, Mock-beggar Hall 1645
• Graves, Mock-beggar Hall 1925
• See Moreton, Wirral, Mockbeggar Castle

eglomise

I researched this a little, but lost my edit. Might be worth revisiting if I have time.

bisbis

You've been editing here for almost two decades, but your edit here looks like something an ignorant first-time editor would do: no templates, no headword, no categories- no way to tell there was a Swahili entry there without going to the page itself. We have 7,638,156 entries at the moment, so something like that could go unnoticed for decades. I only saw it because an abuse filter spotted that you left out the headword template.

I realize that a language like Swahili can be intimidating. It has noun-class prefixes and a very complex morphology- the declension tables are almost planetary in scale. I took an African Languages class at UCLA, and I wouldn't think of trying a full Swahili entry. The least you could do, though, is what I did: use {{head|sw|noun}} with just the language code (sw) and the part of speech (noun), preferably with an {{attention|sw}} template so someone can come in later and make a real entry out of it. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:08, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

It's useful for someone who wants to know what the term means. More useful than no entry at all. Thanks for improving it, and letting me know about the {{attention}} template. Rich Farmbrough, 15:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC).

Note: etym.

• Words of Oriental Origin in Swahili - Page 125, page 140 Port[ugese] 'parafujo': parafuso = screw Bernhard Krumm (1940)
• Oriental Influences in Swahili: A Study in Language and Culture Contacts, Abdulaziz Lodhi, 9789173463775 v15 p. 145 "bisbis, bisbisi, bisibisi, (2010) FJ< hindi or English, "Brace piece"; ...
• The Swahili-Speaking Peoples of Zanzibar and the East African Coast (Arabs, Shirazi and Swahili): East Central Africa Part XII, A. H. J. Prins, Routledge, 2017 9781315310237 Wood Working "chisel (bisnis, patasi)" (republished from mid 20th century) from Ethnographic Survey of Africa, Volume 2, Issue 12 International African Institute 1967

Mom next door

1. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=O8E0-kuOl-AC&pg=PA1&dq=%22mom+next+door%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiEnMPS1YyDAxVKXkEAHZu1A7AQ6AF6BAgJEAI#v=onepage&q=%22mom%20next%20door%22&f=false
2. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pkTYAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA5&dq=%22mom+next+door%22&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiqyaaJ14yDAxXWWUEAHULOBrw4ChDoAXoECAQQAg#v=onepage&q=%22mom%20next%20door%22&f=false