Wiktionary talk:Northern Thai transliteration

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Disorganised Thoughts[edit]

For Northern Thai in the Thai script using Bangkok conventions, there is a case for basing the Romanisation on the Paiboon system. However, I for one loather the system of t/dt/d, and would prefer th/t/d. The aspirates are much rarer in Northern Thai than in Central Thai. --RichardW57m (talk) 13:33, 11 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Survey of Existing Manual Transliterations[edit]

Transliterated Words[edit]

This list was extracted on Saturday 16 November 2019

51 words:

Lemma Transliterator Pronunciation Rough scheme Orthography
ตาล RichardW57 No toneless Paiboon Neutral
พลู Hippietrail No tone-ambiguous Paiboon Rup pariwat
เจ้า Octahedon80 No Paiboon (or RTGS+tone) Neutral
ᨠ᩠ᩅᩣ᩠ᨦ Alifshinobi No RTGS + vowel length Lanna
ᨠᩱ᩵ Alifshinobi No RTGS or toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᨡᩮᩢ᩶ᩣᨧᩲ Alifshinobi No toneless, aw Lanna
ᨡᩱ᩵ Alifshinobi No RTGS or Paiboon Lanna
ᨢ᩠ᩅᨯ Alifshinobi No "khwad" Lanna
ᨤᩢ᩠ᨶᨤᩣ᩠ᨠ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨤᩫ᩠ᨶ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨥᩁᩣᩅᩤᩈ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨦᩪ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨧᩮᩢ᩶ᩣ Alifshinobi IPA RTGS Lanna
ᨧᩲ Alifshinobi No toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᨩ᩶ᩣ᩠ᨦ Alifshinobi No ISO 11940-2 Lanna
ᨬᩥ᩠ᨦ Alifshinobi No RTGS ('ny') Lanna
ᨯᩥ᩠ᨶ Alifshinobi No RTGS/Paiboon Lanna
ᨯᩦ Hippietrail No RTGS Lanna
ᨲᩣ᩠ᩃ RichardW57 No toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᨲᩪ Lo Ximiendo No Paiboon Lanna
ᨲᩮᩢ᩵ᩣ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨴ᩠ᨿᩁ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨴᩣ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨶᩫ᩠ᨠ Alifshinobi No RTGS or toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᨶ᩶ᩣᩴ Alifshinobi No RTGS or toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᨸᩖᩣ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨹᩫ᩠ᨾ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨻᩮᩥ᩠᩵ᨶ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨻᩱ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨼᩢ᩠ᨶ Alifshinobi No RTGS or Paiboon Lanna
ᨼᩱ Alifshinobi No RTGS or Paiboon Lanna
ᨼ᩶ᩣ Alifshinobi No toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᨽᩣᩇᩣ Octahedron80 No Graphic, but without diacritics Lanna
ᨾᩣ Alifshinobi IPA RTGS Lanna
ᨾᩦ Alifshinobi IPA RTGS Lanna
ᨾᩮᩬᩥᨦ Malurian123 No unidentified! Lanna
ᨾᩯ᩠ᩅ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᨾ᩶ᩣ Alifshinobi No Paiboon Lanna
ᩀᩣ Alifshinobi No Paiboon Lanna
ᩁ᩠ᩅᩣ᩠ᨿᨲᩕᩦ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᩁᩢ᩠ᨠ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᩁᩣ Alifshinobi IPA RTGS Lanna
ᩁᩪ᩶ Alifshinobi IPA RTGS Lanna
ᩃᩫ᩠ᨾ Alifshinobi No RTGS or Paiboon Lanna
ᩅ᩠ᨿᨦ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᩉ᩠ᨾᩣ Alifshinobi No toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᩉ᩠ᩅᩫ Alifshinobi No RTGS Lanna
ᩉᩢ᩠ᨶ Hippietrail No RTGS or toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᩉᩩᨾ Hippietrail No RTGS or toneless Paiboon Lanna
ᩉᩯ᩵ᩉᩯ᩠ᨶ RichardW57 No RTGS Lanna
ᩋᩪ᩶ Alifshinobi IPA RTGS Lanna

--RichardW57 (talk) 02:27, 17 November 2019 (UTC) --RichardW57 (talk) 14:19, 17 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Untransliterated Words[edit]

The totality of lemmas on 16 November was was 88 words, so 88 - 51 leaves 37 words. As not adding a transliteration may be significant, I have also recorded the original authors of these documents. The overwhelming majority of entries with transliterations were assigned their final transliteration at creation.

Lemma Creator Pronunciation[1] Orthography
ก่อ Octahedron80 no neutral
กือ Octahedron80 soft rup pariwat
กื๋อ Octahedron80 soft thap sap
จอ Octahedron80 no undetermined
บาป RichardW57 no neutral
แพง Octahedron80 no rup pariwat
ฟ้อน Anonymous no neutral, but thap sap morphology
ภาษา RichardW57 no neutral
สาวก Richard W57 no neutral
เหตุ RichardW57 no neutral
แห่แหน RichardW57 no neutral
ᨠᩨ Octahedron80 no Lanna
ᨤ᩠ᩅᩣ᩠ᨿ anonymous no Lanna
ᨩᩬᨦ Alifshinobi IPA Lanna
ᨩᩲ᩶ Lo Ximiendo IPA Lanna
ᨯᩣ᩠ᩅ anonymous IPA Lanna
ᨯᩮᩥᩬᩁ RichardW57 soft Lanna
ᨯᩮᩬᩥᩁ anonymous no Lanna
ᨳᩴ᩶ᩣ anonymous soft Lanna
ᨳ᩶ᩣᩴ anonymous no Lanna
ᨴ᩠ᩅ᩶ᨦ Alifshinobi no Lanna
ᨶᩴ᩶ᩣ Richard W57 soft Lanna
ᨷᩤ᩠ᨸ RichardW57 soft Lanna
ᨸᩦ Octahedron 80 deleted transliteration no Lanna
ᨽᩣᩈᩣ RichardW57 no Lanna
ᨾᩮᩬᩥᨦ (misspelling) RichardW57 no Lanna
ᩁᩮᩥᩬᩋ RichardW57 soft Lanna
ᩁᩮᩬᩥᩋ anonymous no Lanna
ᩃᩣ Octahedron no Lanna
ᩃᩮᩥᩢ᩠ᨠ anonymous no Lanna
ᩃᩮᩥᩬᨠ Richard W57 soft Lanna
ᩃᩮᩬᩥᨠ anonymus no Lanna
ᩅᩬᩴ᩶ Octahedron80 no Lanna
ᩅᩴ᩶ᩬ RichardW57 soft Lanna
ᩈᩮᩬᩥ᩵ᩋ Octahedron80 no Lanna
ᩉᩫ᩠ᩅ RichardW57 soft Lanna
  1. ^ 'Soft' means the entry may be interpreted as a soft redirect, so giving the pronunciation on the page would not be appropriate.

--RichardW57 (talk) 13:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

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