Reconstruction talk:Proto-Indo-European/pénkʷe

Relation to other words

No relation to the English word pinky/pinkie (i.e. the little finger)?50.103.255.130 18:30, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

If it were related, it would have to be a loanword. p becomes f or (sometimes when not at the beginning of a word) b/v in Germanic. —CodeCat 18:33, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Just answering the question, it looks related to many words, some of them: find, fine, finish, queen-king, man, can, spend-depend, band-tank, bank, kind, and, hand, pen, song, ten, end, feed, think... Okolo-basii (talk) 21:34, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Cancel

@Victar What is the reason for deleting the source? Gnosandes (talk) 11:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

See Reconstruction_talk:Proto-Indo-European/médʰu. --{{victar|talk}} 14:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

the fifth finger

In the entry for finger it reads that penkw-rós means "fifth". In this entry, it is translated as "finger". --Manfariel (talk) 14:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Etymology

Some theory sees the ending -kwe likewise the Latin -que ("and"), in a primitive series of five numbers: pen-kwe ("and five"); perhaps related to Greek root παν- (pan-), "all", meaning "the whole hand"?--Manfariel (talk) 14:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

The primitive series would have been oi, du, ter-kwe ("one, two and three"); later it was added the 4: oi, du, ter-kwe; tur » oi, du, ter, kwetur. Note that in Sanskrit, albeit the root for 4 is चतुर् (catur), "fourth" is तुरीय/turīya (Avestan 𐬙𐬏𐬌𐬭𐬌𐬌𐬀‎/tūiriia). In Hittite, 4 is me(y)u-, Luwian mauwa-, from Proto-Anatolian *meiu (great number, a lot), coincidentally with primitive countings such as "one, two, three, many". So, Anatolian would have remained out of the innovation tur.--Manfariel (talk) 14:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Skt

Sanskrit contains traces of a meaning for penkʷ- meaning something like 'spread (out), compassing, comprehending'. Hölderlin2019 (talk) 13:38, 22 March 2022 (UTC)