User talk:CyberSkull

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Again, welcome! --EncycloPetey 04:32, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


Please do not move the video game entries out of the Video games category. --EncycloPetey 04:32, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

That category redirects to Category:Electronic games. There shouldn't be any items put in a redirected category. CyberSkull 04:34, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Hmm.. Good point. Someone deleted the category without discussion, it seems. --EncycloPetey 04:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
I've just created the topic context template:video games. This currently places articles in Category:Electronic games, but it will allow us to easily change it to Category:Video games when the matter is sorted out. CyberSkull 04:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Be careful, though. Terms like player character are not specific to video games; they apply equally to LARPs and more conventional gaming. The context tag should only be used when the term is jargon specific to video games and no other kind of gaming. --EncycloPetey 04:52, 29 August 2008 (UTC)


This def belongs at Safari, if anywhere. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 07:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Page structure[edit]

I see you've discovered that sometimes our Part Of Speech header is indented underneath the Etymology header. Note that this only happens when there is more than one Etymology section. Normally, there is just one Etymology section and the POS header is at level-3 (e.g. ===Noun===), which is at the same level as the Etymology header. --EncycloPetey 05:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Category proposal[edit]

Almost all discussions here happen in one of four fora: (1) Grease Pit for technical issues; (2) Tea Room for discussions of etymology, precision of definitions, usage; (3) Information Desk for questions about Wiktionary itself; or (4) Beer Parlour for most issues, including policy and structure proposals. So, the Beer Parlour is the place to make a suggestion like that. Just start a new section saying what you'd like to do, and give a rationale for why it would be an improvement. --EncycloPetey 06:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the info! CyberSkull 09:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


Please make sure you include a headword (inflection line) on all your new entries! Thanks!—msh210 21:37, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

E.g., [1].—msh210 21:38, 10 September 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your continuing work. Two pointers on creating plural entries: (1) The entry shouldn't be classified as a lemma (dictionary form), since it's a plural. (2) When using the {{plural of}} template, please link the included word. You can see what these two things look like in the edits I made to arcade games. Pointer (1) means that the inflection line for a plural is just the word in bold, and no template is needed. Plural forms aren't treated quite the same way as singulars, unless the plural is the standard form (like scissors). Pointer (2) means the word in the template is enclosed in wiki-links. Yes, I know, the template will work without the links, but when the links are left out, the system does not recognize the new entry as "good". Our statistics, including our page total comes from having "good" entries, which must include explicit wikilinks somewhere in the page. Wikilinks added by a template won't do that; they have to actually be present in the page itself. --EncycloPetey 05:16, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

  • bind on pickup (etc) as uncountable? You can't have more than one of these? SemperBlotto 15:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
    • You can. You can have as many bind on pickup foos as you want, but I think the term itself is uncountable. CyberSkull 15:12, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
      • You seem to be using the term as an adjective - not a noun at all. SemperBlotto 15:24, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Template naming[edit]

FYI, Wiktionary convention is to use lower-case template names except in extremely rare circumstances. You might consider reversing the redirect on BitTorrent. --EncycloPetey 22:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

I realize, but BitTorrent is a proper noun. CyberSkull 22:56, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
So are "Latin" and "Wikipedia", but we use lower-case for those as well in template names. It's a template naming convention here. --EncycloPetey 22:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
Ok. CyberSkull 22:58, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Requests for deletion#Myth[edit]

I thought you should be made aware of this. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 23:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

context labels and definitions[edit]

Just a small matter, but where you add (or find) a context label that duplicates (nearly or exactly) some of the words in a definition, it makes the definition read better if you remove those words. See [2] for an example that should explain what I mean for better than what I've just written! Thryduulf 23:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

no documentation subpage[edit]

Do not import that stuff from the pedia. We put whatever doc we need on the template talk pages. Robert Ullmann 05:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

It didn't occur to you that if that stuff wasn't here, it probably wasn't here for a reason? Anyway, I cleaned it all up. Robert Ullmann 05:51, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Category fmt[edit]

Hey, I just thought I'd let you know that I think {{nav}} has been deprecated in favour of {{topic cat}}. I'm not absolutely positive on this, and so have asked Williamsayers79, an editor who's fairly knowledgeable about these sorts of things. In any case, both generally produce the same effect, so I don't think it's a huge deal, but I believe {{topic cat}} allows for future automatic sorting (e.g. if someone decides all of the xxx:Games should also go under xxx:Entertainment or something, they can do it with a single edit). -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 04:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Brand names etc[edit]

Wiktionary:Criteria_for_inclusion#Brand names and Wiktionary:Criteria_for_inclusion#Fictional universes may be of specific interest to you, given your interest in video games. Generally such words are unlikely to meet the criteria for inclusion, except for words that widely used outside of the video-game world itself. If a newspaper columnist refers to the "Xbox generation" or "Wii culture" that counts as a qualifying use ("attributive use"). If someone compares Xboxen with Wiis in the same newspaper in a review, that wouldn't count. We like to get everything new that is becoming part of general culture included as quickly as possible, while not being overrun with entries for every model and character. We also like to eliminate redlinks in our articles. That means making sure that, if a redlink wouldn't qualify as a Wiktionary entry, we have any WP article for it linked in-line.

The above is my simplified, non-cutting-edge take on the rules, not an official statement of any kind and still less a scolding. If you find that my statement is misleading in some way, please let me know so I don't mislead anyone else in your position. HTH. DCDuring TALK 19:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Video game terms[edit]

Hello. About your to-do list: although I think some of these could be good additions, I'd also suggest that you first consider breaking them down into individual words and considering whether the combination of words says enough. e.g. game engine is the engine powering a game, video game controller is the controller used for a video game. Where a phrase's meaning is more or less obvious from its components -- even if it happens to be used a lot in gaming communities -- the phrase itself is not necessary. One that particularly struck me was battery-backed save; we're missing that adjective, and it would be nice to have an explanation, but the adj+noun combination can easily be deduced from the two words. Equinox 23:12, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


Where do you expect these templates to be used? What words / definitions do you know that are only used as fruit jargon? --EncycloPetey 07:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Look at manga#Portuguese. CyberSkull 07:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
The template is misused there. It is not jargon. --EncycloPetey 07:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
What would be appropriate then? CyberSkull 07:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Just a definition and a category link, with no jargon context template. The context templates are only placed before a definition (1) to indicate usage register (slang, vulgar, etc.), (2) to indicate regionalisms (e.g. UK, SAfr, etc.), or (3) to indicate a definition context limited to a particular jargon (e.g. legal, medicine, etc.). The context is not necessary for most words, and should only be used in cases where a word's usage is limited and not general. --EncycloPetey 07:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

user:Noobhunter blocked[edit]

Thanks. He's been blocked. Now, back to clean up. DCDuring TALK 11:06, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Sci-fi terms[edit]

It's good that you are adding sci-fi terms, but in order to show that they meet Wiktionary's criteria for inclusion could you please add citations to printed sources where possible, otherwise many of these terms will have to be marked as requiring verification. Thanks. — Paul G 13:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

PS: Please note that citations from Usenet and other Internet sources are not admissible as proof of the existence of a term. Please see the CFI for more information. Thanks. — Paul G 13:40, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Of course they are. Note that CFI doesn't say "printed", it says "durably archived". Something that has a permanent URL in Google groups is just fine. And as noted in CFI, there is a bias toward material available on-line. Robert Ullmann 11:24, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I haven't actually added any scifi terms, I've just been organizing the sections. CyberSkull 13:53, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

My mistake on both counts — sorry for not checking. It's been a while since I looked at CFI; I'm fairly sure we only used to accept printed citations before. — Paul G 19:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

asciibetical order[edit]

I think this is just the adjective asciibetical and the noun order, not idiomatic in any way. What do you think?—msh210 23:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, there is the comparable alphabetical order, so I thought asciibetical order would be a good fit.
Hm, I think both of those are unidiomatic sums of parts.—msh210 18:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

preload templates[edit]

Please note that "noinclude" does NOT work in preload templates "new ..." Robert Ullmann 06:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Would includeonly work instead? CyberSkull 23:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Template:trans-start etc.[edit]

Please don't use this. If you must, fix trans-top, but don't splinter it's bad for consistency. Conrad.Irwin 08:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


This is a misuse of the context templates, as it is not a jargon of its own. That is, the words are not limited to specific laptop publications, but are used in general speech. --EncycloPetey 04:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Those context templates[edit]

Hello you. You don't have to put {{context}} on stuff unless it's a specific context you have invented that doesn't already have a category. So for instance there's never any point in writing {{context|computing}}, because (i) the system already knows what "computing" is, and (ii) if you reduce it to a generic "context", it won't go into the Computing category. If you aren't sure, use the Preview and see whether the template breaks or not. Equinox 23:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

If you use 'context', it should still categorize, actually, but as Equinox notes it's not necessary to use 'context'. It saves a slight bit of server work to omit 'context', from what I understand, but if you can't be bothered to omit it, there's no major harm done, I think.
That said, you really shouldn't use a context tag just for the purpose of categorizing: context tags descibe the context in which a word is used. Mac, for example, is used in perfectly general English to describe a computer of a particular sort, so the 'computing' tag was unnecessary. (But there's a vote on this about to start, perhaps, so maybe what I'm saying will not turn out to be policy in fact.)—msh210 23:36, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

P.S. It would also be really good if you could include three citations per WT:CFI for some of the weirder sci-fi and gaming terms. This would prevent them sometimes getting RFVed or RFDed as neologisms or nonwords. A lot of these terms are either limited to one particular universe (like things that are only in one video game, I dunno, "koopa" in Mario Bros for example) or too new to have documented usage (stuff that was invented a month ago on a forum), and they don't meet our criteria for inclusion. Thanks! Equinox 23:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

User:CyberSkull/Appendix:Video games[edit]

Some of these like boss battle seem a bit unidiomatic. However, a lot of them are badly needed, yes. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Zuh?--CyberSkull 18:06, 12 November 2009 (UTC)



I'm doing some housekeeping on the context labels, and trying to figure out what this label you created represents. Does it label names of genres, or terms used in a genre? Michael Z. 2010-03-29 23:11 z

More for terms that are genres. CyberSkull 00:14, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Such labels are meant to indicate terms used in a restricted context. Would you mind if I removed the label from the 28 entries, while making sure that the definitions reflect the label's intent? Thanks. Michael Z. 2010-03-30 00:48 z