Talk:make out

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How can you translate "To kiss or to make love"? Many languages don't have a common word for that. Not even kiss passionately is the same as making love. I suggest that you add translations for both meanings.

If anyone has trouble discerning what I was trying to say in my edit summary to the entry, I accidentally pressed enter while typing, but I was trying to comment on the same thing. Swedish hångla means to kiss passionately. It doesn't mean to have sex. Readers will be confused by that translation table. Unfortunately, if I were to make the change, I'd have to move almost all of the translations to "translations to be checked". Jiiimbooh (talk) 06:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

made out of[edit]

Where would "X is made out of Y" be? What page would it be under? I can't find it on wiktionary. --AndreRD (talk) 17:08, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Interesting. You can say it with verbs other than "make", too, as in "sculpted out of clay" or "Eve was created out of Adam's rib." I suspect it's a sense of "out of" that we're missing. —Mr. Granger (talkcontribs) 17:24, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

RFV discussion: August 2014–July 2015[edit]

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make out

Rfv-sense: (intransitive) To succeed in seducing; to have sex. —Mr. Granger (talkcontribs) 23:30, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

I think so. 'make out' = "succeed, turn out well/as expected"...I can certainly see this used in certain contexts. For instance: I took Jennifer out for the first time last night. As you know, I've been trying to get in her panties for a long time. (Friend): Yeah, so did you make out? --this could also be interpreted as "Did you kiss each other/have a make-out session. Leasnam (talk) 00:31, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
But that's just because of the context. You can't say that the word "succeed" means to "to have sex", just because it can also be used in that context. --WikiTiki89 01:41, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
  • MWO has this as sense 2 a.[1]; vocabulary.com has a sense like this as well[2]. Some other dictionaries have senses involving necking. Making a deeper search for quotations could be worthwhile. --Dan Polansky (talk) 21:01, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
  • Oxford Dictionary of Modern Slang includes a definition of having sex, and cites "1939–. TIMES The detailed accounts of how he 'made out' sexually and emotionally with some sixteen different girls (1961)". I notice that our current definition talks of "kissing passionately", and I can easily find examples where it refers to heavy petting, which is more than just kissing, but for actual sex, this is what I found (in order of decreasing clarity that it is more than just petting that is being referred to):
    • 2002 Oct, Cynthia O'Neal, “Advice”, Out, volume 11, page 116:
      Even when I try just looking for friends, they all seem to want to have casual sex.Should I just have a quickie and hope these feelings of wanting more will go away? I don't seem to act like other virgins my age either. The virgins I know can't get sex or they are saving themselves for marriage. Neither applies to me. Is it normal to want to know the person before you make out?
    • 2010, Pearl Cleage, Till You Hear from Me: A Novel, ISBN 034551971X:
      “Well, where did you make out when you were a kid?” “I was in boarding school. Most of my making out was between me and my strong right hand.”
    • 2013, Emily Smith, The Taylor Cole Handbook - Everything you need to know about Taylor Cole, ISBN 1486481841, page 7:
      You unzip your pants and appear to make out with her. Next day Phil tells about his wet dream about Hot Neighbor (revealed to be named Martina), Which strangely sounds like the sex you had with her.

Kiwima (talk) 04:23, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

RFV passed. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 23:52, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

  • Unstriking. Too little time for comments on interpretation of citations. FWIW, I don't think that any of these unambiguously differentiate a "heavy petting" and a "having sex (coitus, masturbation, oral sex, etc)" definition. The precise result of "heavy petting" could be similar to having sex, but it doesn't seem to be the same thing. I don't think that the sometime result changes the definition. DCDuring TALK 00:27, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
  • I think that all three citations appear to be using the term to mean "have sex", though they're not absolutely unambiguous. The lemmings mentioned above give me further confidence. I'm inclined to keep the sense, but I think it should be shortened to just "To have sex." —Mr. Granger (talkcontribs) 01:18, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
    Perhaps so. But please give it a little longer, for additional opinion, say at least to 21 May, for a total of seven days, the same as the minimum period of an RfD. DCDuring TALK 02:01, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
    I think that any of the above quotes could easily mean the kissing sense or the intercourse sense. I would suggest merging the 'kissing' and 'sex' senses to something along the lines of "to engage in kissing or sexual behavior" as it seems to be used for the whole gamut. - TheDaveRoss 11:36, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
I've modified the definition to this, which I think passes based on the citations above. As has been noted, some other dictionaries have two similar (and similarly distinct) senses. - -sche (discuss) 01:19, 15 July 2015 (UTC)