User talk:Shoof

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Hi there. It is ==language==, but then ===Etymology===, ===part of speech=== etc. Could you correct all your entries please - it's a bit boring or I would do it myself. SemperBlotto 08:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

ice cream maker[edit]

Hi Shoof, Thanks for all your recent contributions, but I'm not sure this one makes the cut. With multiple-word phrases, we generally try to test for whether a thing is idiomatic. That is to say, is the phrase more than the sum of its parts? For instance, up a creek means to be in trouble, and doesn't have anything to do with a creek, so we'd like to include it.

This one is borderline. If I know ice cream and maker, I can pretty well infer that an ice cream maker is someone or something that makes ice cream. It might have some value for translations, so I will leave it for now. Please consider this test as you decide what to add in future. --Dvortygirl 04:30, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be included because it's an appliance just like a refrigerator and a dishwasher. After all, we have an entry for fire alarm. Shoof 12:51, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi there. Some of your edits tend to be a little over-simplistic. Where words have several meanings, it is important to add them all or they might get overlooked in future. See turntable as an example. Cheers. SemperBlotto

Forms in ...s[edit]


It isn't really necessary to add entries for plurals and third-person verb forms, but by all means continue to do so if you wish.

Please note that when "third person" is used as an adjective, it is hyphenated: "third-person".

Please also see how I have been reformatting these entries (see, for example, bike).


Paul G 11:06, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay Shoof 21:30, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
   For the record, Paul's more recent work seems to reflect the fact that he realizes he shouldn't have said "as an adjective", but "... adjective used attributively". E.g., this is a fine sentence:
The oversight relied upon was always third person.
--Jerzyt 01:33, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Decade age groups[edit]

Hi Shoof. Your decade age group entries (e.g. twenties, thirties) have definitions of the form, "The age group that includes [X]0 through [X]9-year-olds." I know that twenty-something et al. have those definitions, but can twenties and the like also be used that way? In twenties, I added the definition "The decade of one's life from age 20 through age 29." Is that what you meant by those definitions? Rodasmith 22:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Inflection lines[edit]

Hi there. Please add what we call "inflection lines" to entries, like this:

===Part of speech===
# Definition.

If the headword consists of several words, then each should be wikified in the inflection line. Thanks. —Vildricianus 20:31, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


Please remember our format. These entries need a ===part of speech=== header. — Vildricianus 15:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


I don't think your addition is an adjective! SemperBlotto 16:27, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed it. Shoof 16:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

fifteen hundred etc[edit]

Time is not a part of speech. SemperBlotto 17:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

It's still a number. — Vildricianus 17:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

And it MUST have a part of speech. By the way, ones like fifteen hundred are also dates. (You could try adding ten sixtysix) SemperBlotto 17:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)


Please point me to the relevant discussion, where you got community approval to enter the evil Wikipedia-style date entries? Last time they were discussed, I recall being the sole supporter of the concept...what changed? --Connel MacKenzie T C 14:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Redirects reminder[edit]

Do not enter redirects for other forms of an entry, e.g. funner, funnest. If they do get entries, they will be subject to RFV of course...but they must be stub entries, if they are to be entered, never redirects. --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:00, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


Would you mind restricting your number stuff to just one account please? I would go so far as to reccomend notepad.exe as an even better solution. - TheDaveRoss 19:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Today's gender non-specific protologisms[edit]

I think you mean third person rather than fourth person don't you? Third person can be male, female, neuter, or any combination. Incidentally, while personally I don't like any of the ones you've written today, I'd love to see an accepted gender non-specific abbreviation for addressing letters, ie a "Mr or Ms". Any thoughts? --Enginear 23:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd already dismissed M, on the basis that it was the same as the Fr abbrev for Monsieur. I think some women would complain hom sounded identical to the French homme. And of course homo sapiens uses homo, which means man or person, which could also cause objections. Unfortunately, the thinking person's abbrev -- sap from sapiens has unfortunate connotations too! I'm still looking. --Enginear 22:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

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Documenting non-standard usages[edit]

Hello Shoof -- I appreciate many of the edits you have made; however, in late-May / early-June you added a number of non-standard formations (such as caughten and soughten and taughten). This is a dangerous game. There is almost no limit to the misspellings and malformations that might exist in occasional (and usually uneducated) usage. If you are going to create entries of this nature, I really believe it is appropriate to provide at least a few references and quotations. -- WikiPedant 13:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


Not very funny. --Connel MacKenzie 15:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

first floor[edit]

I know this was an edit from a couple of years ago, but nobody explained it at the time. You wrote: Can a building ever have more than one first floor? I don't think so. So there's no plural. The reason the plural is exists is so we can say things like: "The first floors of building A and building B were furnished in different ways." It needn't be the same building. Equinox 22:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

white person[edit]

You may find WT:RFD#black_person of interest. I'll leave white person alone for now, but unless you can change the tide of the discussion, I expect it will be deleted shortly. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 00:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

they two[edit]

You might want to join in the talk about it in the Tea Room. --AnWulf ... Ferþu Hal! 17:09, 18 February 2012 (UTC)