Talk:end of the world

what is doomsday?

It is the day of judgment. See doomsday. —Stephen ^(Talk) 07:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

RFD discussion: August–September 2017

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end of the world

Has four definitions:

1. End of the planet Earth.
2. End of habitability for life on Earth.
3. End of humanity.

Probably a couple can be deleted. --WF on Holiday (talk) 07:02, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

All can be. SoP. All of the difference in meaning is in differences in meaning of world/World. Delete all of the above. DCDuring (talk) 14:01, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Keep. Reference added. It could be classed as an idiom, people have been preaching that "the end of the world is nigh" for generations. DonnanZ (talk) 14:24, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

BTW: I'm impressed by WF's Babel rating en-0. DonnanZ (talk) 14:31, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

• Keep but condense or consolidate senses 1 through 3. bd2412 T 16:31, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
• Keep only newly added idiomatic sense. DCDuring (talk) 16:46, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
• Keep, but revise definition. None of the original senses seem like a very good description, as phrased. Since it's usually a vague superstitious or religious metaphor, I think it should probably sound a bit less scientific than the first two. Perhaps something along the lines of, "(usually metaphorical) the destruction of civilization, humanity, the world, or the universe." P Aculeius (talk) 11:30, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

We are not lemmings, but a couple of other dictionaries have it [1]. Also, it is a religious concept. I deleted two "lesser disaster" -senses, because they are included in the "any disaster" -sense. Keep the rest. --Hekaheka (talk) 08:04, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Maybe you removed too much. What is left is not terribly enlightening. DonnanZ (talk) 09:32, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

• RFD kept, although the definitions have gotten rather trimmed down in the process. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 23:52, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

RFC discussion: December 2012–September 2017

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end of the world

There are currently 4 definitions here, but I don't consider that there should be so many. --Wikt Twitterer (talk) 09:08, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

How is this not SOP? --WikiTiki89 09:20, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Meh, not the end of the world seems like an idiom, end of the world as far as I can see refers to the actual end of the actual world. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

It could refer to the end of the world in the sense of an edge in space, rather than time. The "fall off the end of the world" kind. —CodeCat 18:08, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

And both of those senses would be SOP. --WikiTiki89 19:02, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Only through context though. Without prior knowledge, you wouldn't know which sense of "end" was being used in "end of the world". —CodeCat 21:27, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

And neither would a dictionary. --WikiTiki89 17:48, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

It would not be the end of the world if this dictionary had neither this nor [[not the end of the world]]. But I would make [[not the end of the world]] a redirect to this as the "not" does not have a fixed position (as in my opening sentence or form (could appear as part of a contraction) in the naturally occurring construction. In addition, one could say: "It's always the end of the world if he thinks he might have to stay late."

A simple non-SoP definition is something like "a very bad outcome". DCDuring TALK 21:33, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

The fourth definition is the only one that would not be included in {{&lit}}, IMO. This is just hyperbole, but it is basically a set phrase, though variations on it in the figurative sense are numerous: "the end of the world as we know it", "the end of the civilized world" etc. DCDuring TALK 21:40, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Fair point. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:13, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

• Moved to RFD and kept --WF on Holiday (talk) 19:03, 19 September 2017 (UTC)