User talk:Dvortygirl/December-2006

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WOTD change[edit]

I changed the entry for Friday, October 13 to triskaidekaphobia, which I think is more appropriate somehow. So, there is now one October WOTD entry that will need an audio file. --EncycloPetey 00:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! (Addendum: Somehow you missed southpaw (30 Sept) -- possibly because it wasn't added at the same time as all the other September WOTD. I imagine this will be an easier one than triskaidekaphobia to pronounce.) --EncycloPetey 00:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Basic English word list[edit]

My request is because I read in Appendix:Swadesh list that it miss an article about Wiktionary:Basic English Word List, that may signify the right link can be Appendix:Basic English word list. If w:en:Swadesh list was marked as a candidate to be moved to Wiktionary, it is probable that w:en:List of Basic English core terms will follow the same way, because it is also a list of word and not an encyclopedia article.

All that I made, was click the link, edit its talk, and there I asked. I don't know what can be the right way. Pasqual (ca) · (wikt:catalk81.44.183.216) 20:28, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I dont know if you've understood my last message.
Today I've discovered on Wikipedia the article Swadesh list, and there is a notice where someone can read that this article must be moved to Wiktionary. I go to Appendix:Swadesh list and there I see a red link named Wiktionary:Basic English Word List, I thought in article on the Wikipedia List of Basic English core terms and I was thinking, if Swadesh list is an non-encyclopedia article, this isn't one too, and its better place may be on Wiktionary.
Also I was left the red link from Appendix:Swadesh list.
I dont know if now it is clearer, sorry for my poor English. Pasqual (ca) · (wikt:ca talk · wikt : talk) 22:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
This is now transwikied to Appendix:Basic English word list. Dmcdevit 23:26, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your message, it comes as a great surprise! I didn't wait anything. Pasqual (ca) · (wikt:ca talk · wikt : talk) 11:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks![edit]

Thank you very much for renaming the account! :D --Shanel 05:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)


This was an anon contribution from last night, claiming to be "old midieval English" or some such. The word as defined seems to check, but I wonder if you could look into it and provide the correct language header and perhaps a bit of verification. I have no knowledge of old English, so I don't really know where to look. Thanks. —Dvortygirl 04:26, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

The word exists, but means something else. I've changed the entry and added two citations, having failed to find any evidence for the meaning originally suggested. Thanks for that, interesting one! Widsith 08:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Erdős number[edit]

Very good! I like it ... Robert Ullmann 23:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC) (Erdős number: 6)

Thought this should be preserved for antiquity...[edit]

(Block log); 23:11 . . Dvortygirl (Talk | contribs | block) (blocked "User:Dvortygirl" with an expiry time of 1 day: Replacing deleted material)

Yeah, yeah. I was aiming for somebody else. Dvortygirl 03:27, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Latest WOTD[edit]

Hello again, I've filled out all WOTD entries for the month of November, and have also added the words from December 15 to 31. They're ready for your audio magic. Cheers! --EncycloPetey 00:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, and a couple of words for December may be challenging, since I've tried to focus on words with unusual languages of origin (for English words). The idea is to celebrate a bit of Wiktionary diversity through the holiday season. --EncycloPetey 00:07, 12 October 2006 (UTC)


I just wanted to thank you for your encouragement! I'm very much enjoying my wiki-ing thus far; it's been fun as well as good practice with remembering (and isolating) morphological patterns. Medellia 04:26, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi, some promotions are due...[edit]

at Wiktionary:Administrators. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:46, 14 October 2006 (UTC)


Thanks. In fact, you were one of persons I took as an example of making good pronunciation records when I began. I think I have sufficient knowledge of technical side of recording (I am using a simple microphone and Audacity program) and try to do my best to improve my voice. If you don't see any mistakes I made during recording, I don't have any questions. --Derbeth talk 18:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

RE: User_talk:Jeffqyzt#How about it?[edit]

Hello! Sorry it's been a few days; I've been away visiting relatives. I'm honored by the suggestion, but I'm a little unsure as to what the associated responsibilities would be. Is there a "So you want to be an admin" type page around? --Jeffqyzt 20:35, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. As you noted, my talk page is a little sparse. Therefore, I'm not quite sure of the preferred protocol as to whether responding on my own or the initiator's talk page is preferred. Any suggestions?

Well then, I'd be happy and honored to accept your nomination, if you're still inclined. --Jeffqyzt 13:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Um, LeggyBlondHeron?[edit]

Thanks for the flag. It's fun, and of course work to share.

About this new user, doesn't he/she remind you of someone? Robert Ullmann 15:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for your faith in me, I would be delited to be a sysop.--Williamsayers79 19:38, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Appendix:Basic English word list[edit]

I've moved this into Wiktionary as well. We have Category:1000 English basic words and it links to some Basic English pages for reference, but it's not clear to me whether it is actually based on any Basic English (the conlang) word lists, or just our idea of basic English words. Ogden's list has only 850 words. Looking at the history, it seems to have been constructed by Wiktionarians [1]. I'm thinking perhaps there is some utility in categorizing words in the official Basic English word list ([2]), if that's true. Dmcdevit 23:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome![edit]

Thanks for the welcome! I was starting to wonder if maybe Wiktionary wasn't as friendly as Wikipedia. :-) Ruakh 00:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry, I really wasn't being serious. All's good. :-) Ruakh 03:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and question[edit]

Thank you for the welcome. I'm very active on en:Wikipedia, where I am an admin, and that is the wiki I am most familiar with. By coincidence, shortly after creating my account here, I had occasion to look at the transwiki process for a dictionary definition I would really rather delete from Wikipedia. I made my first ever attempt at transwiki with transwiki:lump it. My two questions are, first, did I do it right; and second, is this term appropriate for Wiktionary? I only transwikied it after the creator started providing some citations to avoid a prod deletion. Thanks! --Ginkgo100 03:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello. First question: no, not quite. Second question: Yes, probably. (I would've put this entry at like it, or lump it, myself.)
Now with a little more detail... The "new" transwiki process is to use Special:Import to extract the complete edit history along with the entry, to comply better/properly with the GFDL. See import log. As "articles" from Wikipedia become "entries" at Wiktionary, they first are imported into the Transwiki: namespace, with the Wikipedia capitalization. Then they are moved to the main namespace and cleaned up (or cleaned up, then moved.) Great care should be taken not to move entries into the main namespace that do not meet WT:CFI. Formatting should follow WT:ELE.
Would you like me to merge Transwiki:Lump it with Transwiki:lump it, or should I just delete the latter? Would you like me to demonstrate what that entry's cleanup might look like, or would you prefer to do it yourself (with our without an interactive tutorial in irc:// )? --Connel MacKenzie 06:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Request for changing my pseudo[edit]

Can you rename my pseudo Bigorneau to Grondin. Thank's.--Bertrand GRONDIN 03:47, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

FYI, username change requests should go on WT:MV. Enjoy! --Connel MacKenzie 21:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: Long time no see[edit]

Thanks! Though for my sanity and my blood pressure, I'm only back a little. I like what you've done with the place. Keffy 23:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)


Hi Dvortygirl, I have put up my request.--KonstTheRealOne 05:56, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!--Konstable 06:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Nudge nudge[edit]

Figured that this was an appropriate name, under the circumstances.  ;-) Can't sleep, clown hijacked my username 06:06, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

This is the same person as the previous request, a Konstable impersonator. Are you sure we have the right Konstable now? Sigh. Robert Ullmann 10:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
To supress any doubts: [3]--Konstable 12:48, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


Hi Dvortygirl. Following our discussion, I have created Template:checktransex to flag translations of example sentences that need to be checked. You can see it in action in several articles. Some new categories had to be created too. Can you tell me if everything I did is ok before I go too far in using this template ? Thanks. — Xavier, 23:33, 2 November 2006 (UTC)


I was horrified today to discover that we didn't have this category yet, and so created it and tracked down likely subcategories and metacategories. Thought I'd let you know, since it (and its related categories) tie into a lot of your interests (music, onomatopoeia, etc). --EncycloPetey 03:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

PS - Any idea why side is in Category:Acoustics?

Thanks. I'm also trying to figure out how best to name a category for words that name sounds (as opposed to dealing with sound in general). The problem is two-fold: (1) A category named Category:Sounds would be perpetually confused with Category:Sound, but any other cat name would be awkward (Category:Specific sounds?), and (2) Is such a category worth separating at all? Do we need to have words like bang, crash, thunderous in a separate category from noise, sound, volume? I'd like your thoughts on this. --EncycloPetey 16:04, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Lunch &c.[edit]

As much as I would love to meet you for a lunch thing, I'm pretty much swamped with oh-so-exiting school things between now and... well, January! If you would be free some time then, it would be lovely to meet. I'm thinking Fremont may be a happy medium..? (Easy for me since it's on the BART line and I am perpetually without personal transportation.)

To be perfectly honest, I've been meaning to get on IRC for a while, but get distracted by all of my unfinished projects in the works. I know I will at some point, however. Medellia 06:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


Please, Take a look at split. :) Alhen 18:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Name change[edit]

Sorry to bother you, but would you mind changing my username to Karl Dickman (Wiktionary:Changing username)? It's just that you haven't done any changes in two weeks, and I'm worried you may have forgotten.

Also, once you've done that, could you please move User:Ingoolemo/standard.css and User:Ingoolemo/standard.js to their respective files in my new userspace? I'd do it myself, but I don't have the administrator powers to.

Thanks again, Ingoolemo (talk) 17:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

cross junction, double crossover[edit]

Your train-savvy coworker must belong to some relatively small, isolated enclave. His (and now our) term "cross junction" is what Wikipedia calls a level junction, aka "flat junction", "diamond junction", or "diamond crossing" (and a few days ago I added those terms here). A google search for this term turns up tons of hits for a town in Virginia, a town in Maryland, a type of road junction, a type of microwave waveguide junction, and a type of water main junction, but virtually no hits for any railroad junctions. Hmm.

Also, the description at our double crossover is of what the rest of the railroading world calls a scissors crossover or diamond crossover. (That is, in the rest of the railroading world, a double crossover is two separate but adjacent single crossovers; they do not overlap to form an "X". See w:crossover (rail).)

(I'm not arguing with your coworker, just pointing out apparent differences in usage.) —scs 17:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd be delighted if you would straighten out whichever of these terms you believe are legit so we can all move on. —Dvortygirl 05:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Will do. Could you do me a favor and unprotect the redirect at diamond crossover, so I can fix it? (I think I'll add copious citations right out of the gate, in an attempt to placate those who are probably itching to delete it on sight if it gets recreated.) —scs 18:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Please count me in, as one of those itching to delete it, if recreated. The high holy terror vandalism that ensued from this class of made up railway terms is not at all funny. --Connel MacKenzie 18:33, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

'Tis unprotected. I ask only that you add the proper entry promptly so as to help discourage any further abuse. When you're done, I'll try to remember to semi-protect it for good measure. —Dvortygirl 21:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

'Tis done. Me, I tend to doubt it needs any further protection, but I'm blissfully unaware of whatever "high holy terror vandalism" went on before, so if you do want to sprotect it, I won't complain. Happy Thanksgiving! —scs 04:21, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

At some point I'm also going to have to fix double crossover and cross junction, but if you're paranoid I won't ask you to unprotect them until we're both ready, which will probably be after the holiday. —scs 04:42, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


In case you weren't watching my page. And again, many thanks.

I was just surprised to note that you are not yet a sysop here on Wiktionary. The fact that I was surprised and had to look it up to be certain suggests to me that you should be one. Adminship simply means that we trust you you to roll back, delete, protect, and block appropriately when you see something amiss. There's a more detailed description here if you wish to know more about the extra buttons. I'd be delighted to nominate you. What do you say? Dvortygirl 21:25, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. Then (as well) we can leave the various cross-over terms both protected and in good hands. Robert Ullmann 22:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Lots of support from me. Andrew massyn 22:10, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Well thank you for asking -- I seem to have been here 10 1/2 months and have done about 700 edits, with a lot of watching discussion pages, so I've a fair idea of policy.
My only concern is that for the foreseeable future I shall be struggling to spend more than about 8 hrs/wk on the project, so will not be available as much as I would like. If you're OK with that, I will accept if nominated. We could do with another engineer/anorak/tiddly-om-pom-pom lover ;-) --Enginear 13:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I resemble that remark! A thought: when you get to pisspot, remember to quote the first line from The Brothers Grimm, The Fisherman and his Wife. Note that almost every reference is bowdlerized to say "pig-sty" or something. But the original (or original translation ;-) says "they lived in a piss-pot by the sea". Cheers! Robert Ullmann 13:37, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Last WOTD for 2006[edit]

The last selections for WOTD in 2006 have gone up. The new ones are dated for 1 Dec - 13 Dec, and many of these don't have sound files. Also, could you do a sound file for shadow while you're at it? This was one of the recent COW selections that didn't yet have sound. Thanks as always, --EncycloPetey 03:08, 28 November 2006 (UTC)