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Be warned. I probably don't care at all about anything you might wish to discuss. (Unless you're nice to me, then I'm a total sucker.)

If you bite, (or if you're just a tool, or if I'm just in a foul mood,) I might bite back.

Most importantly, anything is possible if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

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Translation Request into Arabic and Maltese[edit]

I have a question: How would the term "foreskin restoration" be translated into (Modern Standard) Arabic and Maltese? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 03:59, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

And Hebrew as well, I almost forgot. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 04:00, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

I know everybody knows I love penises, but that's definitely not something I would be able to figure out. Muslims and Jews I feel like generally aren't interested in getting our prepuces back, so uh... I dunno where I'd even start besides just guessing on google.
Although for Maltese I'd assume they'd be extremely likely to just borrow the Italian and nativize the spelling. — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 04:02, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Judging from the Qur'an, the whole Qur'an and nothing but the Qur'an, Qur'anists (or, maybe, (neo-)Naẓẓāmis) could view foreskin removal as haram. For the Jews, there's what's called the brit shalom. Besides, there are the Hebrew, Persian and Turkish versions of the article at Wikipedia (the French, German and Korean versions are available as well; may the Koreamen of the Southern Half benefit from foreskin restoration).
As for other languages, I wish the Africans could learn about foreskin restoration, including but not limited the speakers of Hausa (and other Chadic languages), Swahili and Zulu. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 04:25, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, then I'd say probably the Hebrew is שחזור עורלה (shikhzur orla). — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 04:31, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

Revert twice without explanation and then ask me to leave a message on your talk page?[edit]

Give an explanation or don't revert. Ligata (talk) 10:18, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

False. I would never ask someone to leave a message on my discussion page. — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 01:02, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
@Ligata, Dick is correct, the message If you think this rollback is in error, please leave a message on my talk page is automatically generated. —Stephen (Talk) 05:09, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
I see you consider yourself some sort of superstar who is entitled to take actions without explanation and reply sarcastically when confronted about them. Again I am telling you to stop reverting articles without providing explanations for doing so. When you do this, you are being destructive to Wiktionary and toxic to its goals of transparency and accountability. Ligata (talk) 05:24, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
Dick, Please be kinder to newbies. Not everyone gets your sarcasm. --WikiTiki89 19:23, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm finding it quite shocking that anyone thinks my prior message in this section was sarcastic. Like. I'm going to copypaste here what is literally at the very top of this page right now (and has been for probably at least 2 years if not more)

Be warned. I probably don't care at all about anything you might wish to discuss.

If you bite, (or if you're just a tool, or if I'm just in a foul mood,) I bite back.

Anything is possible if you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

I IZ SERIUS ADMNIM THIZ IZ SERIUS BIZNIS lolcat.jpg


The pictures that those links actually go to?
Be warned
I bite back
I don't really know what more I can add without my brain hurting at all this irony. — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 01:39, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

גאה and queer[edit]

Is queer a slur? I thought a lot of people self-identify as "queer" now; and besides, it's the Q in LGBTQ. Then the next question would be does גאה share the same denotations and connotations? --WikiTiki89 19:02, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll preface the "my opinion" part of my response by saying I feel like this is a "no-POV" issue.
That as our background, I know a lot of people are comfortable with "queer" as a self-identification. Some of those individuals are rather dear to me. I guess I'm not as woke as them, because I still find it to be one of the most offensive things to be called. I'd rather be called a faggot than a queer. Like, much rather.
So in terms of present-day sociopolitics, to some people גאה might be a little saucy, but it's hard to imagine it being taken the way I personally take "queer." — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 01:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
I feel like that's a personal problem? "Queer" is clearly being used in the context I referenced it in, in the citation, as a translation of גאה. Considering the other definitions it's obviously not referring to a slur. And on a side note, as a member of the queer community I am happy not to call you queer, but I'd much rather be called it than gay. Ligata (talk) 08:33, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Adding to this: bisexual and transgender people, as well as many lesbians, find the term "the gay community" to be highly offensive. This is because we are sensitive to the fact that gay men take precedence over the entire rest of the "alphabet soup" and that many politicians nowadays claim to be pro-LGBT when they are only pro-gay. We are constantly fighting against the tendency to equate LGBT with gay because it translates into fewer resources for us and higher rates of poverty, as well as a lack of protection against discrimination in many cases. So that's why we prefer the term "queer" because unlike gay, it refers to people who show any form of non-conformity with heteronormativity. And we find the term "the gay community" offensive because it is a form of homonormativity. Ligata (talk) 08:47, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Finally, in locking the page you were assuming bad faith when you should have at least understood that queer is a more nuanced term than you were making it out to be. All I did was add a term to the translation that is widely used and that I self-identify with, and that, furthermore, was translated that way in the name of an organization, which I cited as an example. You reverted without explanation, and all I asked for was an explanation. Instead of reverting without explanation and then locking, you should have discussed the matter with me. I did absolutely nothing wrong and the way you are acting is not reflective of Wiktionary's stated values. Ligata (talk) 10:03, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
Wiktionary is not a platform for you to push your particular view of what words should mean. You are complaining that I removed "queer" preferring "gay" as a definition of the Hebrew word that would not have this meaning if it were not for the English word "gay."
I understand that queer is a more nuanced term. That's why I removed it from the neutral-word entry. Wiktionary is not based on your self-identification. And in this very particular matter, your opinion is vastly irrelevant because you don't actually speak Hebrew, so you have no idea what sort of nuances the word גאה might carry for people like myself who actually do speak Hebrew.
Lastly, you did not ask for an explanation. You demanded one. You might not have done anything wrong, but neither did you do much anything right. The way you are acting is obviously reflective of some extremely self-centered values. The smarter you are, the more likely you will be to just let this go.
Good day. — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 12:11, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
First of all: I didn't at first demand an example; I first reverted your revert and gave a reason for mine, that you gave no reason for yours. That wasn't demanding, that was requesting an example. Secondly, I don't see a huge problem with demanding that on a collaborative dictionary project, you justify reversions of anything other than obvious vandalism. And even with obvious vandalism it's easy enough to just say "rv vandalism" and if it's not vandalism we can discuss that too. Why is that so much to ask? What would happen if someone without moderating priviliges acted the way that you are acting?
I cited a specific example of Hebrew speakers - in fact, Israeli citizens - using it to mean the thing that you are asserting it not to mean. As a non-Hebrew speaker, this is the only scenario in which I ever add definitions to Hebrew words. Look right here for the organization name that I was specifically citing. Note that in the name, the Hebrew word is גאות, the English word is queers, and the Arabic word is a direct borrowing of "queer" pluralized. So the word is translated twice as queer, into two different languages, in the specific example that I cited in my very first edit. I didn't just add it out of nowhere; why would I ever do such a thing? Does my edit history suggest that I just go around making up definitions for words? Why on Earth would you just assume I was making this up out of nowhere instead of googling the name of the organization I was citing as an example? Ligata (talk) 13:28, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
And funny enough, you say "Wiktionary is not a place to impose your personal views," and yet you are asserting a definition of גאה that is contradicted by one of the examples already attested on the page before I ever edited it and that is still on the page right now. If one of the examples refers to an LGBT film festival, aren't you the one imposing your personal views and using your privilege as a fluent speaker as leverage to shut me up? Ligata (talk) 13:37, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
@Ligata: A couple things to point out here: Names of organizations are not a good source of accurate translations. The translation of the name of an organization is meant to describe the essence of the organization in roughly the same way, but not necessarily have the same exact literal meaning. The second thing is that גאה clearly is also applied to women in this sense, which means that it cannot be restricted to "gay men". So out of the four letters in LGBT, it must at the very least refer to the L and G, but it's up to actual speakers of Hebrew familiar with this area of terminology to decide whether it also refers to the B and the T (and whatever else). --WikiTiki89 15:08, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Lithuanian headwords that don't match the pagename[edit]

I've found a few pages (User:DTLHS/Lithuanian headwords) where the headword doesn't match the page name even after removing diacritics. Usually there's an extra "i". I don't know if the correct solution is to move the page or to change the headword, but I'm willing to fix them if I know how. DTLHS (talk) 02:36, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

The -iose ones have the correct pagetitle, but an extra i in the headword. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 02:55, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Assamese noun template[edit]

Hi, can you create noun declension templates for Assamese like Bengali? -- Sagir (talk) 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Ric isn't likely to want to deal with this. You'd be better off asking Aryaman. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:14, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

question[edit]

Hello. What do you think of heterosexuals, and of my entry cum receptacle? --2A02:2788:A4:F44:1D0A:BECC:8CAD:7152 19:55, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Some of my best friends are heterosexuals! I usually don't care who's gay and who's straight cuz...at the end of the day they're both gross. [1]
As for cum receptacle, I find the combination of words utterly amusing. As far as I can tell, the entry looks to be formatted correctly (ooohh isbn numbers, fuck yeah) but to be honest, I'm kind of slow at keeping up with all our little formatting quirks. — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 02:32, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
  1. ^ Sarah Silverman

Removal of "Judaism" label from 堕天使#Japanese ("fallen angel")[edit]

I was curious about this, as the w:Fallen angel article has a section discussing fallen angels in Judaism. However, that article is a bit confusing to me. Is it that fallen angels were an historical aspect of Second-Temple Judaism, but now they are not part of modern Judaic thought? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:33, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

Use of the term in Japanese and any even vaguely mainstream concept of fallen angels in Judaism do not overlap in the slightest. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:03, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
The concept described in our entry fallen angel (an "angel" that has "rebelled" against its creator) — from the viewpoint of basic, traditional Jewish theology — is utterly, bafflingly ludicrous. "Angels" are things that G-d creates to serve a designated purpose. They have no free will to rebel. If an angel were to "rebel" against G-d, it would be because that's what it was created to do. I wouldn't call that "falling". Haréi, I expect that your average Muslim would have similar reactions to the term, but I'm actually not well-versed enough in Islamic cosmology to state it as fact. And I'm too lazy to read the Wikipedia article.
Anyway. Judaism is not Christianity minus Jesus. — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 19:54, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you both for your replies. Re: Judaism ⊄ Christianity, fully understood. I'm not that up on either subject, and thought it more appropriate to ask here. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:49, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I'm going through related entries to make the same change. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:55, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
I got all the ones that link to/from fallen angel, but I'm sure there are unrelated entries with similar inaccuracies. I'll explode about them when I find them. — Z. [ קהת ] b"A. — 22:13, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hello[edit]

Hello nice to meet you. I have a doubt about this Hebrew term I create: אורפה (Ewropa) Is אורפה correct?? Gioielli (talk) 12:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@Gioielli: No it's not correct. Please stop creating words in languages you don't know. --WikiTiki89 13:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Wait a second, I ve created a new Hebrew word for the city Frosinon: "פרוסנון" Is it possible? @WikiTiki89 Gioielli (talk) 13:28, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

@Gioielli: Yes you did, and I deleted it, because it was wrong. Please stop creating words in languages you don't know. --WikiTiki89 13:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Uff ok. And how is Frosinon written in Hebrew if you can tell me please? Gioielli (talk) 14:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

פְרוֹזִינוֹנֶה (frozinóne). But please don't create an entry for it yourself. --WikiTiki89 14:36, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Therefore insert you it please! Gioielli (talk) 14:49, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm not going to, because I can only find one use of this word in Google Books. --WikiTiki89 14:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah ok. I don't understand.. Is this word not written on the books of Google? Gioielli (talk) 16:12, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

See WT:CFI#Attestation. --WikiTiki89 16:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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halájico[edit]

You sure about the IPA? I would guess that this is one of those cases where the only people who use the word also know to use /h/. But I'll admit that I've never heard a native speaker say it. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:42, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

You've got some t͡ʃʊt͡spə talking to me like that
I'm pretty sure people (at least Jews) include /h/ in intervocal context, but. I would be surprised if anybody included it by default. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 08:41, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

explain your mass revert vandalism of Category:Abrahamism and Category:Protestantism[edit]

Lysdexia (talk) 01:17, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

97% of the entries you added to the Abrahamism categories, which you did not go on to create with the devastatingly easy {{autocat}}, did not belong in Abrahamism categories, they belonged in Christianity categories. If you aren't going to take the time to add appropriately specific categories, I'm not going to take the time to check every single one. Reverting your lazy edits adding red-linked categories isn't vandalism. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 01:21, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
A semicolon belongs there. Your Christianity and Gnosticism reverts weren't justified, nor was your Lucifer revert. On the Catholicism and Anglicanism reverts those better belong in Papism and Petrism categories but most readers involved shall find those deprecative. So I'll ask you what makes a religion "Christian" or fit under that category? Does Messianic Judaism go under Christianity? Does a parody, misinterpretation, or opposition of the NT? My edits weren't lazy but the opposite of yours; you'd need to know the material first to deem ascriptions to each sect. Lysdexia (talk) 02:42, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
I'm noticing other problems, but I'm not going to take the time to explain if it doesn't seem like you're interested in what you did wrong. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 01:25, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
This one is easy enough: diff You vandalized this entry by changing the category from an appropriate, specific one, to a vague useless one. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 01:27, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
No, that was overspecific and inconsistent with the term's entries. However if you want terms to link to their own categories, unlike that one, I already left those on many that already had them. Nothing justifies your tool use. Lysdexia (talk) 02:24, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Then you could have removed the word "Roman" and it would have been fine. It was one example of something you did in other entries. Another thing you did was add categories to forms-of, when they should always be at the lemma. On "many" that had them is utterly irrelevant. You overwrote more specific ones with less specific ones at least as often as you left the originals. Regardless, if an entry is in the category "Christianity" it does not need to also be in "Abrahamism." Entries don't belong in every parent of every cat they're in. It's nobody's job to clean up after your carelessness. Leave me alone or I'm going to give you a short block for disruptiveness. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 02:29, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
I know how categories work. I almost removed the Christianity categories but that may offend feler folk. However Christianity doesn't belong there as those sects follow another person in the NT. Lysdexia (talk) 02:47, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
@Lysdexia: Your Abrahamism are controversial. Bring them to WT:TR or something. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 02:58, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed your psychotic rant about how Mormonism isn't Christian, blahblahblah, you and Pastor Jeffries can feel free to discuss that somewhere I don't have to hear you. Wiktionary is not the grounds for your linguistic religious war and most people don't have a problem with calling a religion that's into Jesus "Christian." — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 03:18, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
You mean my rational rant. "most people"? Where is your poll? When some folk say Christian they mean nonMormon; others mean nonCatholic. I mean nonsectarian nonapostolic. The Shakers and Pentecostals are more Kristian than Protestants, Catholics, and Orthodoxes; any more Jesuist and they'd chop their bollocks off and nearly die or die of poisoning or provoked homicide. Lysdexia (talk) 13:43, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
@Lysdexia What does 'feler' mean? 'Offend feler folk'...what does it mean? Kaixinguo~enwiktionary (talk) 09:29, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
@Kaixinguo~enwiktionary: It must be "fellow". @Lysdexia: Your activity with Christianity categories may warrant a temporary block. Too many changes without any apparent consensus. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад)
No, feler is the comparative of fele. I categorized lots of noncontroversial pages [as above] that were reverted without a reason, and pasted the WLC's translation of Lucifer that was reverted without a reason. If ye don't mind I'll move denominations into their respective sects and delete the religion category on them if I find one.
I don't think Lysdexia cares about consensus. E seems to think e knows better than everyone else. It appears to have always been the case, going back at least 8 years to butting heads with encyclopetey. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 11:02, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
The third-person singular definite common pronoun is who, not e. Can I find the pronoun e on Wiktionary? Nope. I do want consensus; if you didn't already notice I heed BRD. But to be specific I want to convince the world it's wrong, not necessarily from original research but by betokenan the world's internal dissonant contradictions. Do you want consensus? It can't exclude a good argument. Lysdexia (talk) 13:43, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Take the next two weeks to enjoy a nice, soothing hobby. — [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 16:38, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

gaidys[edit]

You like Lithuanian, you like dick. Any idea what the story is with the etymology here? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 10:02, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Блядёшка. [ זכריה קהת ] Zack. — 03:48, 13 June 2018 (UTC)