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This page is for collecting feedback from Wiktionary readers. It should be cleaned out on a three-month basis, as new comments are constantly being added. Feel free to reply to and discuss comments here, though bear in mind that the people who leave the feedback may never come back to read replies. By convention, the feedback is not archived.

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October 2017[edit]

Special:Search[edit]

Please use the same quality settings for the Wiktionary favicon as the Wikipedia one, so Firefox can use it for the icon in the search box when you install the opensearch plugin.

Firefox has a size limit of 10kB for the icons (see https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/2d7b8b5dd174bd9db5894c6cb770e05f83e95ee3/toolkit/components/search/nsSearchService.js#101 ) Currently, the Wikipedia favicon is 2.7 kB (2,734 bytes) while the Wiktionary one is 15.1 kB (15,086 bytes). Just opening them in GIMP and re-exporting them, it appears Wikipedia is using 8 bpp, 1-bit alpha, 256-slot palette, without compression, while Wiktionary is using 32 bpp, 8-bit alpha, no palette, without compression. Just exporting Wikitionary's with the same setting as Wikipedia's gets it to 7.4 kB (7,406 bytes), safely under the limit.

The only change is to the alpha fade in the corners, but it's not really noticeable without enlarging, and Wikipedia's doesn't have it (might need to manually adjust them though). —This unsigned comment was added by 90.252.13.18 (talk).

(Who manages these parts of the software anyway...? —suzukaze (tc) 21:49, 7 October 2017 (UTC))

Kiyoshi Komiyama[edit]

Would you update Kiyoshi Komiyama page in Wikipedia, please?

This is Wiktionary, not Wikipedia. Besides that, Wikipedia does not have such a page as w:Kiyoshi Komiyama. Moreover, there are several people with this name. Are you talking about the Japanese voice actor Kiyoshi Komiyama, born January 12, 1937? He has an article on Japanese Wikipedia, ja:w:小宮山清. Also, Russian Wikipedia at ru:w:Комияма, Киёси. —Stephen (Talk) 15:08, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

contrite[edit]

I find the Wiktionary layout to be very clear and useful both on my smartphone and my windows PC. I can't see anything really wrong with it anywhere or in any way. Thanks for your work on this fine example of the free, non-commercial web! I've used it a lot and I will keep using it a lot, I imagine!

Help:Searching[edit]

Hi! I am just trying to find a section where idioms are defined/explained. I'm sure you must have it, but where? Also, there is no "save changes" button below...

A couple of months ago, someone at WikiMedia decided to change our familiar button that said "Save changes" to Publish changes. I have not been able to get used to it either, but that's life.
It might be helpful to specify for us some of the idioms that you are looking at. —Stephen (Talk) 13:26, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Hebrew request[edit]

The most Dear Wiktionary !!! please ask contributors from now on if "Hebrew" translations reflect biblical or modern' resurrected hebrew , PLEASE. Also it would be nice if you could subdivide words so far "dumped" under the one heading.

Condensed contents[edit]

Is there a way to see a condensed version of the contents of an article, one that shows only the languages that are contained in the article, as well as the current full contents?

tidy up[edit]

why did I have to look up both tidy and tidy up to find the spanish translation?

If you want the translation of tidy, you only have to look up tidy. OTOH, if you are interested in tidy up, then you should look there instead. —Stephen (Talk) 13:52, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

approfittarsene[edit]

I think your conjugation of the second person singular is missing something. You have: "approfittane". Shouldn't it be: "approfittatene".

mogul[edit]

Was seeking the noun, adjective "mogul" in the context of electric lighting.

Meaning added to mogul. —Stephen (Talk) 13:50, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

Category:English words not following the I before E except after C rule[edit]

Zeitgeist is, definitively, not an English word. Therefore it should not be considered in the list-being an English list, by definition. Another solution would be to drop English from the title. That, however, would open up another debate. Ausgezeichnet.

But zeitgeist has been adopted into English. —Justin (koavf)TCM 20:04, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
It was probably Matthew Arnold who brought the word into English in the mid-1800s, though he spelt it as two words. It has been a single word in English (without indicating its foreignness) since 1884. Dbfirs 23:14, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
Do German speakers accept Zeitgeist pronounced with /z/ and pluralised with -s? — Ungoliant (falai) 15:04, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

battue[edit]

In sporting clays, a shotgun sport, a Battue is a type of clay target. These targets are a thin, flat target which can be presented as loopers, crossing or quartering targets. The Battue is faster through the air as a result of its design, but less aerodynamically stable, so as it slows it rolls into a vertical position and falls rapidly.

November[edit]

всё[edit]

I love Wiktionary. To me it's been an invaluable tool for learning foreign languages as well as helping to refine my grasp on the English language.

Not every language is particularly present, however, which is interesting to me. There are barely any entries for Indonesian, or Malaysian.

Thank you though!

We have 2,580 main entries in Indonesian, which I wouldn't call "barely any". As for Malaysian, we don't recognize it as a separate language from Malay, for which we have 3,799 main entries. I do have to say, while we're on the subject, that I think it's a little odd that (1) that we treat Indonesian as a separate language from Malay, but we don't treat Malaysian that way, and (2) that in addition to Indonesian we also have a category for Indonesian Malay as a regional dialect of Malay. What's the difference supposed to be? —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 10:13, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
See w:Malaysian language and w:Indonesian language. — SGconlaw (talk) 17:49, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Those tell me that Malaysian and Indonesian are both standardized registers of Malay, which I already knew. How is that different from Serbian, Croatian, and Bosnian all being standardized registers of Neo-Shtokavian Serbo-Croatian? And I still don't understand the difference between Indonesian language and Indonesian Malay. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:41, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Oh, look, we have this: w:Comparison of Standard Malay and Indonesian. — SGconlaw (talk) 02:15, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
OK, thanks for that link. The "Perception" section of that article answers most of my questions. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 10:20, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/teuhaną[edit]

Thank you for that. It is really interesting. Have to write this into my notebook.

Word of the day: bachelor's fare[edit]

I'm not particular about editing or, making changes to "singlegood," I think it speaks to me about human origins, in the order of creativity which drives "individualgood," in responsiveness.

Appendix:Australian English vocabulary[edit]

Chockers = full, packed Chock-a-block = full, packed

Foreign word of the day: 冷奴[edit]

Some ideas to improve Wiktionary[edit]

1. Please give a dedicated mobile search URL for easy mobile search: - the area to tap (before the keyboard will appear) should be centered, not at the top, for ergonomic reasons. - after tapping, the entry field should automatically move all the way to the top of the screen in order to allow as many search suggestions as possible to appear below.

2. desktop and mobile: I often find it very annoying when a word's entry has lots of information that I am not interested in. I would like to be able to configure a detailed list of information that will be HIDDEN. For example: a) e.g. never show rhymes b) translations only into previously defined languages c) if a word is identical in multiple languages, a large page occurs with lots of entries for languages that one is not interested in. so here it would also be super important to allow the user to prevent that certain languages ever show up. also let the user configure the order in which entries will occur. E.g. at the top, show English (if the word exists there), then German, then French etc.

3. Show auto-generated links to other dictionaries. E.g. for the entry "car (English)", show small buttons/links that will launch sites like oxford, reference.com, etymonline etc. with that search words.

4. It's November, you need to update this site!! It still shows October. —This unsigned comment was added by 80.187.104.73 (talk).

I am strongly in favour of having the ability to hide certain sections. — Ungoliant (falai) 17:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Improve List of German cognates with English[edit]

I would like to see the following page get more attention: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:List_of_German_cognates_with_English

- It could be advertised more prominently (get a link on the front page or s.th. like that)

- There should be a call for participation at the top of the list.

- Perhaps a category "cognate" could be established on the page of a wiktionary word's entry (if a cognate exists), linking from each of these words to this appendix page and the corresponding cognate, causing people to pay more attention to cognates. This could be done e.g. by highlighting in the "translations" section of each words those words that are cognates (i.e., if they are cognates, add a red "Cogn." behind the translation, and link "Cogn." to the corresponding line in the appendix).

- There should be a collaboration with the German Wiktionary, and also the English and German Wikipedia, how have various pages that overlap. E.g. by forming a "cognates task force" on Wiktionary or s.th. like that...

- There should be a "call for cognates" where users who do not dare to edit Wiktionary pages may submit their cognates, alongside reference links that prove them to be correct. unsigned comment by‎ 80.187.104.73 01:20, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Word of the day: baker's dozen[edit]

"Today is apparently celebrated by some people as Homemade Bread Day."

can we send this claim to rfv then? :p —suzukaze (tc) 22:16, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Appendix:Glossary of military slang[edit]

Gun-Deck (Gun-decking): Signing off on a log book for an action requiring the visible inspection of an item or items being present .e.g. classified manuals in a safe, without actually performing the physical task. —This unsigned comment was added by 2601:18d:8700:d720:6cfa:3d5:89b0:4f66 (talk) at 21:31, 19 November 2017‎.

Word of the day: ruff[edit]

Ruff: people are known as being ruff when they have had a heavy night of alcohol or drugs. Ruff is the description of how the are feeling with a hangover or in a come down. —This unsigned comment was added by 31.83.255.80 (talk) at 06:12, 20 November 2017‎.

I think that's just the word rough, not ruff. It might be good to add an additional sense to rough (or update one of the existing senses) to capture the sense of somebody "feeling rough", though. — SGconlaw (talk) 08:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)