Wiktionary talk:About Hebrew

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Since Conrad.Irwin (who created the language indices) has been gone for a long time, I wrote something to update the Hebrew index, while hewing to the existing design to the extent that I could reverse-engineer it. So far I've only updated Index:Hebrew/ט, to solicit some feedback before proceeding with the other 21 letters. Questions/comments/etc. welcome. —RuakhTALK 21:12, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

@Msh210, Wikitiki89, Enoshd — no pressure, but if you have the time and inclination to take a quick look at Index:Hebrew/ט and/or Index:Hebrew/ט?diff=49705178 and let me know if any problems jump out at you, I'd appreciate it. —RuakhTALK 04:55, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
I personally think that there isn't much use in keeping such an index (for any language). We have Category:Hebrew lemmas after all. And for all the redlinks, we have Wiktionary:Requested entries (Hebrew). Other than that, your update to the index looks perfectly fine. --WikiTiki89 13:38, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
I too think that indices are no longer useful for Wiktionary. Our Hebrew content needs a lot of work, and there are much better uses for your precious time here! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 13:54, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Oh. Hrmph. Well, *I* found the indices useful! :-P   —RuakhTALK 05:17, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
@Ruakh: Just curious, what did you use them for? --WikiTiki89 19:40, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
Various things: finding translations tables that list non-lemma forms (e.g. להתקשר instead of התקשר), words that have entries but aren't listed in appropriate translations sections, etc. (So, mostly things that I find useful as a Wiktionary contributor, rather than things I'd find useful as a Wiktionary reader.) I was also thinking about adding a feature analogous to {{t+}}, where the index entries would have links to the Hebrew Wiktionary entry when it exists, which would (among other things) let me find entries that I could create relatively easily; but if no one else actually uses the indices, then I guess it's not useful to add new features to them? —RuakhTALK 19:57, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
@Ruakh, Wikitiki89, Metaknowledge: For the quality of translations from English into Hebrew, please check User:Matthias_Buchmeier/en-he-a (words starting with 'A', replace the final letter with any English letter). I believe it's updated regularly. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 00:15, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the link! That's really useful, though it looks like that bot isn't currently aware of the fact that (e.g.) {{t+|he|אָשֵׁר|tr=ashér}} links to [[אשר#Hebrew]] rather than [[אָשֵׁר]]. —RuakhTALK 00:57, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
@Ruakh: The method has a couple of other issues, yes, it doesn't seem to be aware how Module:links works. It works for Russian (knows to fix stress marks) but not for Arabic or Hebrew - diacritics are not dropped. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 01:06, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
None do.​—msh210 (talk) 20:24, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks! —RuakhTALK 01:34, 18 June 2018 (UTC)