Wiktionary:Requested entries (Finnish)
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Have an entry request? Add it to the list – but please:
- Consider creating a citations page with your evidence that the word exists instead of simply listing it here
- Think twice before adding long lists of words as they may be ignored.
- If possible provide context, usage, field of relevance, etc.
- Check the Wiktionary:Criteria for inclusion if you are unsure if it belongs in the dictionary.
- If the entry already exists, but seems incomplete or incorrect, do not add it here; add a request template to the entry itself to ask someone to fix the problem, e.g.
{{rfp}}
or{{rfe}}
for pronunciation or etymology respectively.- — Note also that such requests, like the information requested, belong on the base form of a word, not on inflected forms.
Please remove entries from this list once they have been written (i.e. the link is “live”, shown in blue, and has a section for the correct language)
There are a few things you can do to help:
- Add glosses or brief definitions.
- Add the part of speech, preferably using a standardized template.
- If you know what a word means, consider creating the entry yourself instead of using this request page.
- If you see inflected forms (plurals, past tenses, superlatives, etc.) indicate the base form (singular, infinitive, absolute, etc.) of the requested term and the type of inflection used in the request.
- Don’t delete words just because you don’t know them – it may be that they are used only in certain contexts or are archaic or obsolete.
- Don’t simply replace words with what you believe is the correct form. The form here may be rare or regional. Instead add the standard form and comment that the requested form seems to be an error in your experience.
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Unsorted requests[edit]
- phrasal verbs formed with käydä
- in the list of redlinks remaining from the discontinued Finnish index there are following phrasal verbs formed with the verb käydä. I would appreciate community's opinions on which of them should get their own entry and which are mere SOP's. Please check the entry for käydä before commenting. Heres the list:
- käydä asiaan
- käydä hullusti
- käydä huonosti
- käydä hyvin
- käydä ilmi
- käydä kateeksi
- käydä kiinni
- käydä kuumana
- käydä nukkumaan
- käydä pöytään
- käydä sääliksi
- käydä ylikierroksilla
- käydä asiaan, käydä ilmi (a collocation is also fine, but a separate entry is better here in my opinion), käydä kiinni and käydä pöytään are all OK. käydä kateeksi and käydä sääliksi are probably entryworthy. käydä hullusti is borderline. The rest (käydä huonosti, käydä hyvin, käydä kuumana, käydä ylikierroksilla) should be treated as collocations, as should käydä nukkumaan and mennä nukkumaan (the latter should probably be deleted). — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 12:05, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- in the list of redlinks remaining from the discontinued Finnish index there are following phrasal verbs formed with the verb käydä. I would appreciate community's opinions on which of them should get their own entry and which are mere SOP's. Please check the entry for käydä before commenting. Heres the list:
- sydäntä lämmittävä
- I don't think this is idiomatic enough to warrant an entry. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 19:50, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- We do have heart-warming, and this is certainly attestable. brittletheories (talk) 20:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think that has any bearing on this. The English word exists mostly because it can be attested without a hyphen, but in Finnish that would be considered nonstandard. To the contrary, there are expressions like mieltä lämmittävä, etc. that show it's not really idiomatic. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 15:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Maybe we should consider creating sydäntälämmittävä as "misspelling of" -page. At least it seems to be quite commonly used[1]. --Hekaheka (talk) 12:58, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- This is really a grey area. This article[2] by Kielitoimisto would seem to accept sydäntäsärkevä. If that's acceptable, sydäntälämmittävä should be quite close to being good as well. --Hekaheka (talk) 13:10, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think that has any bearing on this. The English word exists mostly because it can be attested without a hyphen, but in Finnish that would be considered nonstandard. To the contrary, there are expressions like mieltä lämmittävä, etc. that show it's not really idiomatic. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 15:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- We do have heart-warming, and this is certainly attestable. brittletheories (talk) 20:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think this is idiomatic enough to warrant an entry. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 19:50, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- tangoon tarvitaan kaksi
- Is this really idiomatic in Finnish? I would be happy with tangoon + tarvitaan + kaksi. In fact I edited the Finnish translation in it takes two to tango by linking each word separately to their respective entries.--Hekaheka (talk) 20:22, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- @Hekaheka Translations sections have the same attestation criteria as independent entries. If it can be attested, I would consider it idiomatic enough to warrant its own entry. I doubt that, though. brittletheories (talk) 16:42, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
- I don't think it is. The more idiomatic form is something like tanssiin tarvitaan aina kaksi. I'm not sure if that form is attestable, though. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 11:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Is this really idiomatic in Finnish? I would be happy with tangoon + tarvitaan + kaksi. In fact I edited the Finnish translation in it takes two to tango by linking each word separately to their respective entries.--Hekaheka (talk) 20:22, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- asikko (“grayling, Thymallus vulgaris”), dialectal. see dict, listed at Proto-West Germanic *askijō
- Intriguing case, not sure if it is entryworthy. SMS only lists two attestations from two dialects, with no surrounding context. It is in SSA, but that's not really an attestation. [3] appears to have an attestation, but it might be the only one. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 20:05, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- That's how dialectal words end up, I'm already surprised it's in those dictionaries. The more obscure it is, the more interesting, :) definitely entry worthy. Catonif (talk) 08:03, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- The problem is attestability, which Finnish as a WDL cannot really get around. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 08:29, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- That's how dialectal words end up, I'm already surprised it's in those dictionaries. The more obscure it is, the more interesting, :) definitely entry worthy. Catonif (talk) 08:03, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
- Intriguing case, not sure if it is entryworthy. SMS only lists two attestations from two dialects, with no surrounding context. It is in SSA, but that's not really an attestation. [3] appears to have an attestation, but it might be the only one. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 20:05, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
- nalli (“she-bear”) - dialectal word from naaras (“female (of animals)”), mentioned in kolli (“tomcat”). It's blue due to another sense.
- When I don't link words, I do so for reason, because they're too rare to add and don't meet CFI, just like here. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 15:08, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
- aimata, aimottaa - see Proto-Finnic *aimat'ak
- Only aimottaa is attestable. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 15:08, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
- moneta - see etymology 2 of moni
- I can find no evidence that this word exists (neither for moni etymology 2 at all, to be honest) — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 21:14, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
- häkähierin - dialectal, chiefly Savo and Central Finland, comparable to päällepäsmäri, see Suomen murteiden sanakirja: [4]
- Doesn't seem to be attestable to our standards. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 10:12, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- -te - mentioned in -ke
- hinukki (rare but google-found synonym for hintti/hinttari)
- Only on a couple of (forum) websites, though. Probably won't meet CFI. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 14:35, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
- ongertaa (“to bore, dig in”) - see onkalo
- Not attestable. — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 15:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)