談

See also: 谈

Translingual

Han character

談 (Kangxi radical 149, 言+8, 15 strokes, cangjie input 卜口火火 (YRFF), four-corner 0968₉, composition ⿰言炎)

Derived characters

• 𡃘

Related characters

• 谈 (Simplified Chinese)

References

• Kangxi Dictionary: page 1167, character 11
• Dai Kanwa Jiten: character 35633
• Dae Jaweon: page 1632, character 22
• Hanyu Da Zidian (first edition): volume 6, page 3992, character 7
• Unihan data for U+8AC7

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Chinese

trad.		談
simp.		谈
alternative forms		譚／谭

Glyph origin

Characters in the same phonetic series (炎) (Zhengzhang, 2003) 

	Old Chinese
倓	*l'oːmʔ, *l'aːm, *l'aːms
緂	*l̥ʰaːm, *l̥ʰaːmʔ, *l̥ʰjam
毯	*l̥ʰaːmʔ
菼	*l̥ʰaːmʔ
裧	*l̥ʰaːmʔ, *l̥ʰjam, *l̥ʰjams
賧	*l̥ʰaːms
睒	*l̥ʰaːms, *hljamʔ
舕	*l̥ʰaːms
談	*l'aːm
郯	*l'aːm
惔	*l'aːm, *l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms
錟	*l'aːm
淡	*l'aːm, *l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms, *lamʔ
痰	*l'aːm
餤	*l'aːm
啖	*l'aːmʔ, *l'aːms
腅	*l'aːms
剡	*ɦljamʔ, *lamʔ
覢	*hljamʔ
掞	*hljams
炎	*ɦlam
琰	*lamʔ
棪	*lamʔ
扊	*lamʔ

Phono-semantic compound (形聲／形声, OC *l'aːm) : semantic 言 (“speech”) + phonetic 炎 (OC *ɦlam).

Etymology

From Proto-Sino-Tibetan *g-tam ~ g-dam.

Pronunciation

• Mandarin

  (Standard)

  (Pinyin): tán (tan²)

  (Zhuyin): ㄊㄢˊ

  (Chengdu, Sichuanese Pinyin): tan²

• Cantonese (Jyutping): taam⁴
• Hakka

  (Sixian, PFS): thàm

  (Meixian, Guangdong): tam²

• Northern Min (KCR): tǎng
• Eastern Min (BUC): dàng
• Southern Min

  (Hokkien, POJ): tâm

  (Teochew, Peng'im): tam⁵

• Wu (Wugniu)
  • (Northern): ⁶de

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• Mandarin
  • (Standard Chinese)⁺
    • Hanyu Pinyin: tán
    • Zhuyin: ㄊㄢˊ
    • Tongyong Pinyin: tán
    • Wade–Giles: tʻan²
    • Yale: tán
    • Gwoyeu Romatzyh: tarn
    • Palladius: тань (tanʹ)
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /tʰän³⁵/
  • (Chengdu)
    • Sichuanese Pinyin: tan²
    • Scuanxua Ladinxua Xin Wenz: tan
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /tʰan²¹/
• Cantonese
  • (Standard Cantonese, Guangzhou–Hong Kong)
    • Jyutping: taam⁴
    • Yale: tàahm
    • Cantonese Pinyin: taam⁴
    • Guangdong Romanization: tam⁴
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /tʰaːm²¹/
• Hakka
  • (Sixian, incl. Miaoli and Meinong)
    • Pha̍k-fa-sṳ: thàm
    • Hakka Romanization System: tamˇ
    • Hagfa Pinyim: tam²
    • Sinological IPA: /tʰam¹¹/
  • (Meixian)
    • Guangdong: tam²
    • Sinological IPA: /tʰam¹¹/
• Northern Min
  • (Jian'ou)
    • Kienning Colloquial Romanized: tǎng
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /tʰaŋ²¹/
• Eastern Min
  • (Fuzhou)
    • Bàng-uâ-cê: dàng
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /taŋ⁵³/
• Southern Min
  • (Hokkien)
    • Pe̍h-ōe-jī: tâm
    • Tâi-lô: tâm
    • Phofsit Daibuun: daam
    • IPA (Xiamen): /tam²⁴/
    • IPA (Quanzhou): /tam²⁴/
    • IPA (Zhangzhou): /tam¹³/
    • IPA (Taipei): /tam²⁴/
    • IPA (Kaohsiung): /tam²³/
  • (Teochew)
    • Peng'im: tam⁵
    • Pe̍h-ōe-jī-like: thâm
    • Sinological IPA ^(key): /tʰam⁵⁵/
• Wu
  • (Shanghai):
    • Wugniu: ⁶de
    • MiniDict: de^去
    • Wiktionary Romanisation (Shanghai): ³de
    • Sinological IPA (Shanghai): /de²³/

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• Dialectal data

Variety	Location	edit 談
Mandarin	Beijing	/tʰan³⁵/
	Harbin	/tʰan²⁴/
	Tianjin	/tʰan⁴⁵/
	Jinan	/tʰã⁴²/
	Qingdao	/tʰã⁴²/
	Zhengzhou	/tʰan⁴²/
	Xi'an	/tʰã²⁴/
	Xining	/tʰã²⁴/
	Yinchuan	/tʰan⁵³/
	Lanzhou	/tʰɛ̃n⁵³/
	Ürümqi	/tʰan⁵¹/
	Wuhan	/tʰan²¹³/
	Chengdu	/tʰan³¹/
	Guiyang	/tʰan²¹/
	Kunming	/tʰã̠³¹/
	Nanjing	/tʰʰaŋ²⁴/
	Hefei	/tʰæ̃⁵⁵/
Jin	Taiyuan	/tʰæ̃¹¹/
	Pingyao	/tʰɑŋ¹³/
	Hohhot	/tʰæ̃³¹/
Wu	Shanghai	/de²³/
	Suzhou	/de̞¹³/
	Hangzhou	/dẽ̞²¹³/
	Wenzhou	/da³¹/
Hui	Shexian	/tʰɛ⁴⁴/
	Tunxi	/tʰɔ⁴⁴/
Xiang	Changsha	/tan¹³/
	Xiangtan	/dan¹²/
Gan	Nanchang	/tʰan²⁴/
Hakka	Meixian	/tʰam¹¹/
	Taoyuan	/tʰɑm¹¹/
Cantonese	Guangzhou	/tʰam²¹/
	Nanning	/tʰam²¹/
	Hong Kong	/tʰam²¹/
Min	Xiamen (Hokkien)	/tam³⁵/
	Fuzhou (Eastern Min)	/taŋ⁵³/
	Jian'ou (Northern Min)	/tʰaŋ²¹/
	Shantou (Teochew)	/tʰam⁵⁵/
	Haikou (Hainanese)	/ham³¹/

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• Middle Chinese: dam

Rime
Character	談
Reading #	1/1
Initial (聲)	定 (7)
Final (韻)	談 (143)
Tone (調)	Level (Ø)
Openness (開合)	Open
Division (等)	I
Fanqie	徒甘切
Baxter	dam
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang Shangfang	/dɑm/
Pan Wuyun	/dɑm/
Shao Rongfen	/dɑm/
Edwin Pulleyblank	/dam/
Li Rong	/dɑm/
Wang Li	/dɑm/
Bernard Karlgren	/dʱɑm/
Expected Mandarin Reflex	tán
Expected Cantonese Reflex	taam4

• Old Chinese

  (Baxter–Sagart): /*lˤ[o]m/

  (Zhengzhang): /*l'aːm/

Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character	談
Reading #	1/1
Modern Beijing (Pinyin)	tán
Middle Chinese	‹ dam ›
Old Chinese	/*lˁ[o]m/
English	speak
Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system: * Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence; * Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p; * Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix; * Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary; * Period "." indicates syllable boundary.

Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character	談
Reading #	1/1
No.	14292
Phonetic component	炎
Rime group	談
Rime subdivision	1
Corresponding MC rime	談
Old Chinese	/*l'aːm/

Definitions

(deprecated template usage) 談

1. to talk; to converse
2. to discuss; to chat
3. remark
4. conversation
5. a surname

Compounds

(deprecated template usage)

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Japanese

Kanji

談

(grade 3 “Kyōiku” kanji)

1. story
2. talk, conversation

Readings

• Go-on: だん (dan, Jōyō)^{←だん (dan, historical)←だむ (damu, ancient)}
• Kan-on: たん (tan)^{←たん (tan, historical)←たむ (tamu, ancient)}
• Kun: かたる (kataru, 談る)
• Nanori: いき (iki); いぎ (igi); いな (ina); いの (ino); いのう (inō); いのき (inoki)

Compounds

• 講(こう)談(だん)師(し) (kōdanshi, “professional storyteller, raconteur”)
• 手(しゅ)談(だん) (shudan, “game of go”)
• 商(しょう)談(だん) (shōdan, “negotiation”)
• 相(そう)談(だん) (sōdan, “consultation, discussion”)
• 冗(じょう)談(だん) (jōdan, “joke”)
• 対(たい)談(だん) (taidan, “dialogue”)

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Korean

Hanja

談 • (dam) (hangeul 담, revised dam, McCune–Reischauer tam, Yale tam)

1. conversation

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Vietnamese

Han character

(deprecated template usage) 談 (đàm, giạm)

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