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searches to find language names[edit]

  • "X language", "X dialect"
  • "X-speaking"
  • "speak X", "spoke X"
  • tenuous: "in X", "of X", "X"

old set of special characters[edit]

 -ë'’ʼ
 éáÀ()âùöãíúǂǁ‡óñèôîäçìòõüæêāīåŵṣṭ
 ,..[]/ǀ!123

new set, 22.8.12[edit]

 -ëë'-éááá,,é-Áá---'-á-,,,,-,.Àà--ë--,-------''-'é'----ââùù-,-öÖ'','áé---ãíâú--,á,
 ,,úí---é.--ǂʼǁʼǁǁ,,,,-,‡'ǁ',ǂ'ǁ',ǁ'ǁ',----,,,',,-,,,,,,,--,-,,--,,,á,-á-íé,ó,,á()
 ,,,,-ñé,--,-áá'éé-é,---á-ó,--'ééé,,-éé-()-------()--é()',í-'--,-()-,,()--ñèèô()é-
 --è-()--é-éé--,-,--ááááé--()-',,,,(),(),(),(),,''ééîá,,ñ,,í,,,',,,éñí-------úú-áó
 í-éé--é--á-í,,ôôá----á-úéí-,-,-,-é-é'ãã,,ã---''ñ-á-íñé-'-,é,ñÖ,ùùí'é'-,,--,,,,--é
 ,,,----á,,',,,ä-''',-,-ç,,-ç-ô--â,,'--'--,,,,à,,,,-'-------',','---'áì-------í-ǁí
 é-'-,ä,ó-áéíí,,áíééíöé,á-ãááã'-èäöéǁ-ãá--ôǀǀ,,ó'é,,,,,ò,,ǂõãüá,,íé,,,,---éè--,,ñ,
 ----'-ññ-á---á----,,í,,,,---í--á--íúõëúã--íáâé,-,ú,,é,á,á-,úáéâ-,,-,,,,,-,ééí-é,á
 úüä-!!,!'!,,áü--,-,âúíí!é,---'áá----,é--á-'-öé'âíǀ''ú-á'-'--â'-'áà-éä,,áí'-í-ó-,æ
 -,-,'-----[[>]]--éé-(),-ö-,,,--'ê-ä,--éé''éé'ê-'-'óó-í-áé-é,,,,,ëíáú-éáííá-,,,,,,
 ---'-,,,'-ò-,',āá'-áñ-,,,-'áá-é,-íí,í,í,áíúí,,á-',,,,,,ëá'íé'á'üü-ñ,,,--ü-á--óá,'
 ãúííéüáá,ú,á'-åå,å'---'á--,,-'--á-ǀ'áá-á----í-ö!óõ,,''á-'ü--,'''ô----',ŵ,,-',,,-ñ
 ,ç,,,-------'',Öé,,ó,,,éé-ǃǃ',ííáã,'éúáé,',-éáá-'--,-,,-,----ö'áá,áú'-1--á'á,'í'-
 '-îç,çéé,óã--ã'éé(),,'é,,,áñáá''ó-íí-á--íí-áá'ñ-ó-,,é()-íŋ,-,,,ó-,,,--éèé,é,,-èè,
 ,,----,,-',-----êá--ü,'-'----ééììééé----,-,-,--,,-á,á-á-'','-é,,---,ó,,',','í,-'-
 ô,,,-,'á-á-éãá,,,,,,,,,,,,'áá-óü--',,,,-éáé---'-áé-ñ,,,,è,-ã,í,,,,,,,,,,,,á-ú',-,
 ,é'áí'éááóí-á'ü-,é,é,,'',,üáá'-óáó'-àà-à'é'-,,,----',',íé-é---ú-'---------,,í,í,í
 -ñ-ä-á'ü'õ-á',,,-ááè----'--é'íéé'è---ó,,,éǀ-,,-áí,,ǁ-éá--ñáâ-é''á'---'--'''úá--ô-
 -à-á---ñê'ó-éá-íâ--â--'éí--,,ü--í-,,,,,,(),,,,-'áíáááó-----ãá-----áóóóáííéáááááíí
 -í-íüá

new set, 22.8.12 (no duplicates)[edit]

 -',.()ʼ
 ǀǂǁ‡
 ëéáÀâùöãíúóèôîäìòõüæêāå
 ñçŵŋ
 [[>]]
 !ǃ1

with errors fixed[edit]

 -'ʼ
 ǀǂǁ‡
 ëéáÀ
 â     is common but probably removable
 ùö
 ã     is common
 íúóèôîäìòõüê
 å     in Bokmål
 ç     is in Provençal
 ñ     is common

Problems fixed:

 [[>]] was bad coding
 !ǃ converted to ǃ
 , probably only separating alt names
 āæŋŵ only in alt name

Problems not yet fixed but identified:

{{pnm}} has 1
{{agz}}, {{atl}} have .
() are in: axk Template:axk, bjl Template:bjl, bkm Template:bkm, bmn Template:bmn, bnd Template:bnd,
Bodo languages: boy Template:boy, brx Template:brx
Kara languages: leu Template:leu, reg Template:reg

hyphens and parentheses[edit]

hyphens[edit]

see User:-sche/langnames/hyphens
  • - : not listed yet
  • We currently call gel "Kag-Fer-Jiir-Koor-Ror-Us-Zuksun", which just seems to be the names of all of the dialects of the language strung together with hyphens.

parens[edit]

  • ( ) :

Yaka langs, Yaa lects, Aka langs[edit]

  • axk="Yaka (Central African Republic)" (on Wikt, the closest similarities are Yakan and Kyaka; WP says the Congo and Angola have yaf (Template:yaf) = "Yaka"/"Iaca"/"Iyaka", and the Congo and Gabon have a dialect continuum with iyx (Template:iyx) = "Yaa"/"Yaka", and the CAR and congo have this one, axk = "Aka"/"Yaka"/"Beka");
    Wiktionary calls soh "Aka", but soh is also known as Sillok (but this is not attested)
    WP says axk is also called Mò-Áka, Moyaka (not attested), Bayaka, Yaga, Bayaga, Gbayaka, Biaka, Beká, Yakwa, Yakpa, Yakpwa, Nyoyaka : but most of these (all of these?) are not attested
  1. A dialect of Limba?
    • 1969, in the US Journal of American folklore, volume 82:
      [] with interlinear English translation, two from the Biriwa dialect and one in Yaka dialect.
  2. Yaa = a dialect of mzm (Template:mzm) = Mumuye
    • 1979, Kiyoshi Shimizu, A comparative study of the Mumuye dialects: (Nigeria), page 74:
      For instance my Zing informant knew of some lexical differences between his dialect and Yaa dialect even before this study.
(Limba = Template:lia, Template:lma; Template:mzd)

Other langs 1[edit]

  • bjl="Bulu (Papua New Guinea)" (compare bum=Bulu);
  • bkm="Kom (Cameroon)" (compare Koma, etc; but nothing is exact);

Banda langs[edit]

  • bnd="Banda (Indonesia)"
  • there is another "Banda", in Africa: a language family, bad ({{etyl:bad}}), including tor (Template:tor)

We call bnd "Banda (Indonesia)", apparently to distinguish it from Africa's Banda language family and its members — but the Banda family is just that, a family, and no one of its members is called bare "Banda" by Ethnologue; they all have more specific names, like "Banda-Banda", "Banda-Ndélé", "South Central Banda".

Bodo langs (plus pua)[edit]

  • boy="Bodo (Central African Republic)"
  • pua (alt name)

Kara langs[edit]

see Citations:Kara
  • reg="Kara (Tanzania)":
    Kara language (Tanzania) - reg (Template:reg) - per WP also "Regi"
  • Kara language (Papua New Guinea) - leu (Template:leu) - WP has book sources for "Kara"; gives alt name without support: "Lemusmus"
    the name "Kara" is well attested in reference to leu, Lemakot is also slightly attested
  • Gaya language (Korea) - zra (Template:zra) - Gaya / Kaya, also translit Kara (per WP)
    the name "Kaya" is well attested in reference to zra
  • Fer language (Central African Republic) - kah (Template:kah) - WP: "The Fer language, also Dam Fer or Fertit, one of several languages called Kara ("Kara of Birao")"
  • Gula / Tar Gula language (Central African Republic) - kcm (Template:kcm) - per WP, commonly called Kara
    but 'Gula' is itself very ambiguous, referring to several langs

"Gula" is itself the name of four other languages in Chad alone(!) ({{glj}}=Gula Iro, unattested by that name, attested as 'Kulaal', which is apparently the autonym anyway; {{zna}}=Zan Gula, barely attested; {{glc}}=Bon Gula, barely attested; {{gvl}}=Gulay, one citation as a language name, many as a group name), and of a pseudo-isolate in Liberia ({{gol}}=Gola, attested). (Fortunately, all the Gulas also go by other, more specific names, but it makes me reluctant to name {{kcm}} plain "Gula".)

  1. The Omotic language, the code for which I haven't worked out (perhaps it's Karo, {{kxh}}?—note that 'Karo' is also the name of {{arr}}, when arr isn't called Arara...unless Arara is {{aap}}) — take a look at Citations:Kara.

Hmm... oh, and there's also a language family, w:Kara languages.

other[edit]

  • ë : aae=Arbëreshë Albanian, aji=Ajië, jup=Hupdë, mbj=Nadëb, msn=Vurës,
  • ' : not listed yet
  • ’ : alw=Alaba-K’abeena (converted to ')
  • ʼ : aue=ǂKxʼauǁʼein (and alt names thereof use a miscellany)
  • é :
  • á :
  • À :
  • â : ane=Xârâcùù (attested!), aqr=Arhâ, fwa=Fwâi, kbb=Kaxuiâna, kcd=Ngkâlmpw Kanum, kmg=Kâte, ktn=Karitiâna, kwa=Dâw, xir=Xiriâna, ybn=Yabaâna, yly=Nyâlayu,
  • ù :
  • ö :
  • ã : many langs
  • í :
  • ú :
  • ǂ :
  • ǁ :
  • ‡ :
  • ó :
  • ñ : several langs
  • è :
  • ô : a few langs
  • î :
  • ä :
  • ç : Provençal langs
  • ì :
  • ò :
  • õ :
  • ü :
  • ê : a few langs
  • å : nb = Norwegian Bokmål
  • , : not listed yet, probably only to div alt names
  • . : agz=Mt. Iriga Agta, atl=Mt. Iraya Agta
  • [ ] / : gnk, xeg, yue-toi (deleted but still listed)
  • / : gwj=/Gwi
  • ǀ : not listed yet
  •  ! (compare ! and ǃ) : not listed yet
cpe-mar Maroon Spirit Language Jamaican Maroon Spirit Possession Language, Maroon Spirit Language
uuu U

others to check[edit]

old set updated after old changes[edit]

  • no longer this: [’]. but still ['] and [ʼ]
-ë'ʼ
éáÀ()âùöãíúǂǁ‡óñèôîäçìòõüæêå
,..ǀ!1

other duplicate langs[edit]

Clicks[edit]

The following languages have names which contain characters representing clicks:

  • no language names (which we have) contain ʘ
  • {{khi-kun}}, {{knw}}, {{nmn}}, {{oun}} contain ǃ (two of these are also redundant)
  • {{aue}}, {{huc}} contain ǂ
  • {{xeg}}, {{aue}} (also in the previous line), {{gnk}}, {{hgm}} contain ǁ (and {{hnh}})
  • {{ktz}}, {{ngh}}, {{xam}} contain ǀ ({{hnh}} contained "ǀǀAni", a typo for "ǁ")

Many of these languages have attested names which do not include any special characters. One could:

  • Propose on RFM that {{hnh}} be renamed "Khwe".
  • ktz → Ju-hoan? (no, that seems drammatically rarer than the click variant...)
  • hgm → is a dialect, alongside {{naq}} "Nama", of "Khoekhoe"; the lects could be merged and named "Khoekhoe" ("Haiom" is just barely attested, but dramatically rarer than the click variant)
    Khoekhoe is a shrinking collection of dialects and subdialects spoken by the Nama people, the Damara people, and the ǂAkhoe Haiǁom people. Following ISO 639-3, we arbitrarily divide the codes along two of those ethnic lines into {{naq}} "Nama" and {{hgm}} "Haiǁom", although Wikipedia suggests the lects are actually divided into Nama–Damara, Haiǁom, and ǂĀkhoe. If we desire to avoid click characters in language names, we could merge lects under one code and call the language "Khoekhoe": "Khoekhoe language" is certainly a very well attested phrase, signalling that many people consider it a single language.
  • ngh → has a problematic name (the name we use is a variant(!) of a name of a dialect(!) of it), but no solution is apparent; WP calls it "Nǁng"

Additional[edit]

Even more[edit]

The following names do not appear to be attested: Abar, Achuar-Shiwiar (see RFM), Ahwai, Ake?, Alaba-K’abeena (see RFM), Ana Tinga Dogon (see RFM) ... (all names up to Ana Tinga Dogon have been checked)

  • Abenlen Ayta may not be attested
  • check Angor, it might not be attested (has one mention-y book use)
  • A'tong is only slightly rarer than Atong, perhaps not worth the both of renaming
  • {{aum}} (Nigerian language): "Abewa" is apparently only mentioned, not used. The language is also called "Asu", but that is also a name of another language: {{asa}} is a Tanzanian Bantu language variously known as "Chasu", "Asu" or "Pare" (or "Kipare", "Casu", "Chathu", "Athu").
    "Pare" is also a name of the {{ppt}}, which is also called "Pari", "Pa" (or "Akium-Pare").
  • Abon is uncommon; is "Abõ" more common?
  • Abron is uncommon; is "Brong" more common?
  • {{ado}}: "Abu", also called "Adjora", which prevents confusion with {{jid}}, but may be less common