User talk:Robin Lionheart

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Again, welcome! Mglovesfun (talk) 05:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

ground zero

As you point out, the proper noun is Ground Zero, which is a different page title to ground zero. You can use {{also}} to link between the two. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Marking pages for deletion

Hi, you need to use {{delete}} if you want a page to be deleted. Just erasing the content means no admin will find it. Nadando 19:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, {{delete}} is far better, but blanked pages will eventually be found and tagged for deletion (by AutoFormat). I think.​—msh210℠ (talk) 21:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

edit summary

If you leave the edit-summary box blank when creating a page, the software fills in useful info automatically. This is usually superior to (for example) filling in the pagename (which is obviously superfluous info). (But do use edit summaries when editing, as opposed to creating, a page.) I hope that this helps. If you seek clarification or have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me on my talkpage.​—msh210℠ (talk) 21:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Improper page format

Please take some time to see what Wiktionary does and does not do. The English Wiktionary does not use templates to create section headers; this breaks section editing. Your creation and insertion of many such templates required a lot of cleanup. Such cleanup is easier to do by reverting than by slow surgical editing (my connection is very slow today), and so many of your changes today have now been undone. Please do not create new format conventions without discussion if you wish to avoid this problem in the future. --EncycloPetey 18:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Creating this sort of template requires a lot of thought in order to not disrupt entries. We do have one such template, {{abbreviation}}. In this case just write the header out which saves space and is visually easier to read. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Well 5 actually, though some of these could arguably be deleted. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Template:l

You have been misusing {{l}}. The "tr=" is for transliteration of scripts, and should not be used for translation. You will need to go back and correct every use of this template. --EncycloPetey 18:45, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

He's right. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:49, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

pomujo

Are you certain that this can't also mean "apple tree"? --Yair rand (talk) 06:20, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Only back at the very beginning of Esperanto. I’ve added a usage note regarding this. The founding text of the Esperanto language, the Fundamento, used -uj- with fruit to make names of fruit trees, but compounds with arbo quickly replaced this usage. Every Esperantist I have ever met uses arbo to make names of fruit trees instead. Robin 06:35, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Category:Esperanto words suffixed with -ingo

Our entry -ing- is a redirect to -ingo, same for -uj- versus -ujo. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

steampunk

I don't believe this should have the sci-fi gloss because it is not a term specific to science fiction, like (deprecated template usage) phaser, the same way that "spoon" would not have a culinary gloss: it's a kitchen implement but not specific to culinary speech. That is why I removed the sci-fi gloss from steampunk a few days ago, which you have now restored. What do you think? Equinox ◑ 10:07, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

It seems to me, the italicized words before a definition don’t restrict its domain, they clarify its context. For example, “plain: (geography) flatland” doesn’t mean that “plain” is only used this way by geographers, it means when plain refers to geography, this is what it means. - Robin 11:23, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Context labels are overused through laziness. In general, you should just write the category out at the bottom of the page. It would be ridiculous to gloss anatomy as "Template:anatomy The study of physiology" (for example) but people actually do it, simply to add a category. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Esperanto noun forms

Hi, these entries need a definition line, such as:

# {{eo-form of|pik|oj}}

Or else AutoFormat will tag them as having no definition, and add them to definitionless words. Mglovesfun (talk) 07:39, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Huh. So what is {{eo-noun-form|pik|oj}} for? Should it be updated to do this? Robin 07:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Two different templates. You could use both, but you don't have to. If you turn on/allow WT:ACCEL you can do all this automatically. I believe it handles Esperanto perfectly as there are no irregular forms. Mglovesfun (talk) 07:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Not your fault, but your formatting didn't work for Unuiĝintajn Naciojn, so I used general, non-Esperanto specific templates ({{infl}} and {{form of}}. Mglovesfun (talk) 08:35, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Please use WT:ACCEL or {{eo-form of}}, AutoFormat tagged all of these as "Esperanto definitionless words". Mglovesfun (talk) 10:34, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

You should really get WT:ACCEL working, it takes one click, and you can make noun and adjective forms in about one second each. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:13, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I told you. You should browse Category:Esperanto nouns and try and find as many green-linked noun forms as you can. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:03, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Esperanto suffixes

Hi,

Most Esperanto suffixes (which Kalocsay & Waringhien call sufiksoidoj) have an inherent part of speech, and so are best listed with the part-of-speech vowel, like any other root. This is how K&W list them. Exceptions would be (true) suffixes like -eg-, -et-, etc. which inherit the part of speech of the stem they suffix to and so effectively are infixes. Actually, one could argue that -ilo and -ino should be moved to ilo and ino, since they are basic nouns, but maybe that's pushing it a bit. Anyway, listing them as -il- and -in- suggests that they're infixes. kwami 23:58, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Officially, by my texts, -aĵ-, -an-, -ar-, -ej-, -er-, -estr-, -id-, -il-, -in-, -ing-, -uj-, and -ul- among others are infixes. But Kalocsay & Waringhien are correct that they really transform their roots into nouns, and you correctly note they are perfectly good nouns in their own right: aĵo, ano, aro, ejo, ero, estro, ido, ilo, ino, ingo, ujo, and ulo.

My usage is more informed by Richardson (1988) and by Wells (1992), which follow the Fundamento’s practice of writing these suffixoids like infixes. ((deprecated template usage) -estr- has always seemed like it should be listed as (deprecated template usage) estro to me!) I have not read Kalocsay & Waringhien, I’m afraid, but I shall add it to my reading list.

If we dropped the pretense that they are suffixes altogether, words ending in (deprecated template usage) ano, &c. would more aptly be called compounds. I’m not, in principle, against your idea of treating them as nouns, but it could be a controversial move, needing discussion beforehand. - Robin 10:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

That's exactly K&W's argument. There are "suffixoids", which started off as suffixes historically but today function effectively as compounding roots, and true suffixes, which cannot be treated as compounding roots because they don't order properly. Then there are "quasisuffixoids", like -ama and -plena, which started off as compounding roots but are used that way so often that they can be thought of as suffixes.

(Sufiksoidoj ni nomas tiun parton de la sufiksoj, kiuj propre ne estas sufiksoj, ĉar ili funkcias tute same kiel la radikoj.)

An infix, if we're going to be technical about it, is inserted within an existing stem. So nationalistic contains no infixes, because at each step of its derivation a suffix was added: [[[nation]al]ist]ic. About the only infixes in non-technical English are slang things like saxomaphone. Most Eo affixes carry their own part-of-speech vowel, so they're not infixed between a root and a pre-existing POS vowel: [bela]eco → [bel]eco, not *belo‹ec› → bel‹ec›o. I don't know of any Esperanto text that calls -eco a "suffix" and -eg- an infix, but that's how those terms are used in morphology.

BTW, K&W list the following as true suffixes: aĉa, ega, eta, which they call "diafanaj sufiksoj" because they don't change the POS of the stem, um, and unofficial ifi; they then say that ĉj, nj and obl, on, op can be considered among them. For true prefixes, they list bo, eks, ge, mal, pra and unoffical pseŭdo, which change the nature of the stem, something compounding wouldn't do. kwami 08:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Esperanto verb forms

{{eo-verb-form}} works the same way as {{eo-noun-form}}. They've both been nominated for deletion. Again, AutoFormat will tag these as no definition, and definitions have to be preceeded by #. You seem to be determined not to take the easy way, that is to make things difficult for yourself instead of easy. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:17, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

(Robin Lionheart in an email said) If there's an easier way to do the verb forms for rikolti, please show me how. It'd be nice if we had a bot to do it.

I think there is a subst:able template of some more. I think it's {{new eo verb form}}. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:26, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

It’s not working for me, I'm not sure what I’m doing wrong. - Robin 16:34, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

It seems to work by specifying two parameters, such as {{new eo verb form|rikolt|is|subst=1}}. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Opiaterein has a bot to make Esperanto verb forms automatically. The requests page is at User:Opiaterein Inflectobot/nomnom. --Yair rand (talk) 19:37, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Category redirects

Just to say, please don't set up categories as "hard redirects", use {{movecat}}. I (we) will produce a list of the categories affected at some point, and convert them to {{movecat}}. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I’ll change it. - Robin 15:34, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Umm....

On other wiki's, I have been told to make all my edits for a specific page in one change; I'm new to this wiki, so I don't know if the etiquette ruling here says to make as many changes as you want for each edit, or to try to make most of your edits in one change. If you have learned otherwise from other people here, let me know. I'm just saying this because I noticed you were making three or four edits on the same page; I was a little curious. I'll shut up now. --Jub3r7 01:55, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Greetings

Why did you depopulate Category:English greetings in favor of Category:Greetings? Similarly for the other one. At least the English one is not a topical category. I doubt that any of them should be. Greetings are a speech act not a topic. DCDuring TALK 10:25, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I noticed some of bonan matenon/tagon/vesperon/nokton had Category:eo:Greetings and some didn’t, so for consistency's sake, I added that category to all of them. Category:Greetings was autolinking to Category:eo:Greetings and Category:English greetings had only two entries. It seemed like the redundant categories should be merged into Category:Greetings. As to why someone made a Greetings category in the first place, I assume it's so “hello” in Wikisaurus will return other greetings, which seems worthwhile enough. I really don't think the English one should be linking to Category:Parts of speech, though. - Robin 11:13, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

See WT:RFM#:Category:Greetings. DCDuring TALK 11:29, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

eternaj komencantoj

Any chance you could clean this up? I added {{eo-form of}} but that's all I can do. Thanks. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Nederland etc

You may wish to add more categories, but please do not remove this word from existing categories. Wiktionary is lexically arranged, and we do not use the topical hierarchy that Wikipedia uses. names of all countries should be in Category:Countries, even if they are in other categories. Names of languages should be in Category:Languages, even if they are in other categories. If you wish to see a major change in the Wiktionary category structure, you should propose this change and have that discussion before making radical changes. --EncycloPetey 01:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem, I can add Countries to each of the countries' topic cat parents and take care of that across the board. - Robin 01:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

No, that won't fix the problem. That will only categorize the categories. It is the entries that I am talking about. --EncycloPetey 01:08, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I see, the entries need to go under Countries. OK, my bad, I thought it was supposed to work like WP. I’ve got to go readd Countries throughout most of Europe then. Hi ho... - Robin 01:11, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Very little of what we do works like WP. --EncycloPetey 01:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Do nationalities go in both Demonyms and Nationalities? - Robin 01:33, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Just nationalities. --EncycloPetey 05:54, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Template:topic cat parents/French language

The main problem with this is that the parent category would be Category:French language which isn't topical it's linguistic. On a more general note, I oppose over-specific topical categories, but some people like them, and some hate them. So you can basically disregard the second sentence, it's the first sentence that counts. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

HotCat

You might want to enable HotCat in the Gadgets tab of Special:Preferences to help you add categories more quickly. Just a suggestion. —Internoob (Disc•Cont) 21:32, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

AAI

Hello. I suggest not using {{poscatboiler}} to organize abbreviations, acronyms and initialisms, (and contractions, for that matter) because they are not parts of speech. --Daniel. 00:37, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Without it, every language must code categories for “Language abbreviations, acronyms and initialisms”, “Abbreviations by language”, “Acronyms by language”, “Initialisms by language”, etc. by hand. We have a perfectly good mechanism to do all that for nouns, verbs, and adjective, it’s foolish not to use it for abbreviations too. - Robin 00:44, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and we have {{affixcatboiler}} for suffixes, prefixes, etc. And {{phrasecatboiler}} for phrases. Perhaps another catboiler must be done for abbreviations... maybe {{shortcatboiler}}? Thanks for calling poscatboiler a "perfectly good mechanism", I'm flattered. --Daniel. 00:48, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

I’d support a {{shortcatboiler}}, though it is sounding like you’re more qualified to make it than I. Care to do the honors? — Robin 00:50, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

No problem. {{shortcatboiler}} is done. --Daniel. 01:04, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Great! Updated cats to use it. Can you make it do what sortparent1 did for {{poscatboiler}}? — Robin 01:19, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I can do that. Now, shortcatboiler sorts categories accordingly and automatically. It does not need a "sortparent1" anymore, so I have removed it. Since the automatic sorting is a new functionality, it may have to take some time before affecting all existing categories. --Daniel. 01:28, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

User:Mglovesfun/To do

In case you haven't noticed, I'm trying to speedy create as many Esperanto noun forms as possible. If you're interested, feel free to remove links for words that already have all the correct noun forms. I'm trying to check 100 Esperanto entries a day, so with 3000 left that's still a month. So any help would be appreciated. I've already done the same thing for Esperanto adjectives and Ido nouns. Mglovesfun (talk) 08:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that’s great. I was dissatisfied with WT:ACCEL’s inability to accelerate verb forms, its mistakes with open compounds, and its not properly generating proper {{infl|eo}}’s but instead cheaply resorting to unsemantic boldface, so I’ve started writing my own using the Custom regex gadget. You can see my custom noun-, verb-, and adjective-form greaser in my vector.js. It’s a work in progress. — Robin 09:04, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

I put that link in, to try and explain what greased means. I certainly don't know. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that’s just a nonce term for what the script does. ACCEL puts “Accelerated” in the description line of its autofilled edits, so I had my JavaScript tag its edits “Greased”. It started out as a script run by Firefox’s Greasemonkey extension, before I adapted it for the Custom Regex gadget. Lubricant seemed as good a metaphor as accelerant. — Robin 10:08, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

{{infl|eo|noun form}}?

[1] Why {{infl|eo|noun form}} instead of {{infl|eo}}? --Yair rand (talk) 23:27, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

It lets infl add the word to the “Esperanto noun forms” Category. eo-part of does that too, but on the occasions when we replace the eo-part of with a custom definition (like with saluton, for example), then infl takes care of it so we don’t have to add Category:Esperanto noun forms by hand. Belt and suspenders, as they say. Plus it could give robots a clue about POS, which could help them spot errors. — Robin 23:38, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

hobbit

Not sure about exactly what you did here; I suppose that the Esperanto translation will survive even if there are entries in other languages as well as interwiki on the same page. :-p --Harald Khan Ճ 21:39, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Yikes! I’m glad you caught that. — Robin 21:45, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

starigi

Hello, I saw you add some entries about esperanto, so could you look at this page? Thanks. Pamputt 00:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Continued at Talk:starigi. — Robin 06:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Aprilo

Personally I'd recommend {{alternative capitalization of}}, or else deletion. Redirections are bad because they say nothing about why the entry is a redirect. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:09, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

At this rate, you'll make admin by the end of the year. Are you a Wikipedia administrator? Mglovesfun (talk) 23:20, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

No. — Robin 06:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/24.49.35.99

A few odd looking Esperanto words here. Any sign of them in dictionaries, or in print? Mglovesfun (talk) 23:33, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

varmisto/malvarmisto for “warm weather person”/“cold weather person”? Yeah, those feel erroneous to me too, like inventions by someone who hasn’t learned the difference between -isto (“member of a profession related to”) and -ulo (“person characterized by”). I’d’ve coined varmulo/malvarmulo, that’d accord with colloquial use of dekstrulo (“rightie”)/maldekstrulo (“leftie”). But I’ll do due diligience and see if I can find them in actual use. — Robin 05:24, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Nothing in print or Usenet, Google finds only one Esperanto document using varmisto as a nonce abbreviation for varmteknikisto. Replaced definitions, recommending both for deletion. — Robin 06:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Category:Esperanto idioms

I removed all the single words from this as single words aren’t (usually) consider idiomatic. It had stuff like virhundo in it. Would Esperanto consider this idiomatic? Mglovesfun (talk) 11:28, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Single words can be idiomatic. Frex, “lemon” is a single-word idiom, as in “His car is a lemon”. I think virhundo is an idiom in the way that ice cream is an idiom, in that they are terms whose meaning is not transparent from knowing their component parts. — Robin 18:58, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Jesus Christ

AFAICT he is 'attested' (as you put it) in the Bible and the Qu'ran. I think he's attested in other writings too. I think what's commonly contested is that he's the son of God, not whether a person named Jesus existed and was born circa 1 AD. NB this is a discussion about the Wiktionary entry, not about Jesus Christ in general. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Which are not historical records. The historicity of Jesus is, at the very least, controversial. There is neither a shred of physical evidence, nor a single contemporaneous record of his lifetime. (Moreover, the name "Jesus of Nazareth" is anachronistic, since archeological evidence dates the town of Nazareth back to the late Roman period; Nazareth did not even exist in the first century AD.) Anyway, rather than provoking some readers by (accurately) writing "of questionable historicity", "legendary" seemed a safely ambiguous adjective to take no position on his existence. — Robin 11:42, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't really see why they're not historical. Not unbiased, sure yes. But how are Plato or Aristotle attested in a way that Jesus isn't. Oh and Jesus does appear outside of the Qu'ran and the Bible. But I suppose you already know that. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:22, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

The Iliad is not a historical record of the Trojan War for reasons that should be obvious. Likewise The Bible and the Qur'an. — Robin 23:17, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

third-person pronouns

Thanks for your work on the third-person pronouns and adjectives! :) I've tried to edit all the existing ones and the ones I'ved added to the same format (the format he, herself etc use). Also, I'm thinking we should split Wiktionary:List of protologisms by topic/third person singular gender neutral pronouns: I figure most of these pronouns are attested, so they're not really protologisms. I've tentatively created Appendix:English third-person singular pronouns. What do you think? (It occurs to me both lists are slightly misnamed, because they include possessive adjectives, but I think Appendix:English third-person singular pronouns and possessive adjectives is a bit unwieldy, haha.) By the way, what do you think we should do with forms like "I hugged eir", which are not the "standard" Spivak forms, but are attested and used together with the other Spivak forms ("ey" etc)? Should we have footnotes in the table and/or usage notes in the entries? - -sche (discuss) 23:27, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Splitting the list is OK with me. We could put {{SIC}} next to erroneous usages like "I hugged eir^[sic]". And I'm all for usage notes. ~ Robin 01:36, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

On what basis were you calling "eir" as objective pronoun attested? I see a single, non-durable citation. That seems like a mistake rather a genuine usage. ~ Robin 16:47, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

-iĉ-

Hello there! I couldn't help but noticing this very interesting template of yours. Very good, although I'd recommend instead of having -iĉ- as a suffix, use vir- as a prefix for male animals, as iĉism hasn't really catched on as a neologism by the greatest part of Esperanto speakers, and unnecessary neologisms are somewhat frowned upon sometimes.

Cheers! --Pikolas 21:36, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

My generic animal template already does generate vir- words as hyponyms. I now also have another template for vir- animal headwords. ~ Robin 15:42, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Grease pit#Template:quote-news

FYI: Wiktionary:Grease pit#Template:quote-news.

Please be more careful when editing widely-used templates!

—Ruakh_TALK
15:00, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

thon

That quote is really disgusting, it makes my eyes water. --Rockpilot 01:00, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

More to the point, I don't think we can use it: we can't tell it's using "thon" as such; it might be writing "thon" as a representation of something else, much as it writes "thε" as a representation of "the". I think it should be moved to the talk or citations page... - -sche (discuss) 01:04, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I want to unsee the quotation. --Rockpilot 01:06, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Ha ha, thank you for that. I typed it for the challenge, but your horror just made it funny for me, too. Anyway, it's not a representation of something else. According to their guide to their idiosyncratic orthography at the start of this volume, "thon" just happens to remain "thon". ~ Robin 01:21, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

• If you look closely at WT:CFI and WT:ELE I'm sure you'll see some subclause about not permitting things that burn the eyes. --Rockpilot 01:33, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
  • I've added a transliteration= so you can read the sentence without staring at the orthographic horror. ~ Robin 01:37, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

very cool monster entries

i hope you had a great halloween and i helped improve some of those entries for you.Acdcrocks 09:53, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Atena#Esperanto

I'm guessing I don't need to tell you what my query about this entry is. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I know, but some Esperanto writers insist on ending goddesses’ names in -a (Afrodita, &c.). It feels like poor Esperanto to me for accusative Atenan to be a noun, but even Vikipedio writes “Atena” at present.

If they refuse to accept the -o, I'd rather they follow the practice of another early Esperanto writer who used Atena’ (that is, eliding the -o from Atenao):

But my adversion to it is irrelevant; it's a confusing usage that needs a definition. ~ Robin 22:54, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

eo.wikipedia.org also gives Hera and Hestia. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:49, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

admin?

Hi Robin, would you like me to nominate you for Wiktionary adminship? You've been here long enough and I'm sure you'd make good use of the tools --Simplus2 15:57, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, please! ~ Robin 20:55, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Okey dokey - please accept Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2011-12/User:Robin Lionheart for admin --Simplus2 22:02, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Your vote has passed, you are an Admin. Please add your name to WT:Admin. Also, see Help:Sysop tools. —Stephen ^(Talk) 15:02, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations! ;) -- Cirt (talk) 03:17, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

American Dialect Society's Word of the Year

Perhaps this could be created as a new category? It'd certainly be a neat way to see all of these words. -- Cirt (talk) 03:17, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

This may be of interest.​—msh210℠ (talk) 03:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, great idea!  Done, created an appendix page, at Appendix:American Dialect Society words of the year. -- Cirt (talk) 05:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

ROBIN LIONHEART IS GAY!

Robin lionheart is gay because he deletes FUN! and also he has a gay name, fag. - preceding unsigned comment by 194.81.238.234, 16:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Please sign your comments with four tildes, anonymous homophobe. And for making an attack page with that title, you just got yourself a time-out. ~ Robin 11:45, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

FYI

I mentioned you, at the bottom of Talk:santorum#A_notice_to_editors.2C_please_read_this. -- Cirt (talk) 16:12, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Also mentioned you at Wiktionary:Tea_room#santorum. -- Cirt (talk) 16:15, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

When to start a citations page?

I gather you've started citations pages after there are more than 5 sourced quotes for examples on a page. Is that pretty much you general standard? Is there a healthy max of quotes to have on a page? Is 10 okay? -- Cirt (talk) 23:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

Hm, I do tend to think “too much” at around 6 quotes. I’m not sure what a good maximum would be. But if you’d like a guideline: if readers have to scroll back from a quote to reread its definition, that’s probably too many. ~ Robin 17:15, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Ah, quite right, sounds good. -- Cirt (talk) 19:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Help with assholocracy

Please see my work at:

1. assholocracy
2. Citations:assholocracy

and also the discussion at Wiktionary:Requests_for_verification#assholeocracy.

Is there anything else that can be done to make sure this page is not deleted? -- Cirt (talk) 02:04, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Seems like you've adequately attested it now. Good job. ~ Robin 18:35, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! What about that Requests for verification thread, what will happen there? Also, based on Citations:assholocracy, do you think I could go ahead and create pages for those other redlinks? -- Cirt (talk) 00:03, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

IP vandals

Please block and revert: User:124.183.141.231, User:184.48.117.19, and User:72.129.125.97. Thanks Metaknowledge 05:51, 9 February 2012 (UTC)