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mahaba man ang prusisyon, sa simbahan rin ang tuloy

Another common proverb I encounter, but any idea about equivalent proverb in English? TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 02:59, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko Nope 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 03:15, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

But isn't this some common expression? TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 03:17, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko Yes but not all proverbs have equivalents in other languages. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 03:30, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

I had no idea about meanings for that as well, TBH. Any searches for what that means? TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 03:33, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko "Even long courtships would still end up in marriage". 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 03:36, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Favor

If you have time, please create the entry for amats. Thanks! Mar vin kaiser (talk) 14:39, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

reverted edits revision

why you didn't accept my revision? i mean kuyad is actually a Cebuano word, just borrowed from tagalog, i found this on the filipino english dictionary. and also i possibly known i comparing to kape to ca phe, is this works? and is goma from japanese gomu, because they both means rubber. Kuyalanz (talk) 09:18, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

@Kuyalanz

Kuyad: If you want to write Cebuano kuyad, write Cebuano kuyad instead. Why are you changing Tagalog kuyad?

Kape: While sharing Arabic roots, the Vietnamese one didn't come from Spanish and a phono-semantic matching of French café. Even so, there's no need to compare every single word that came from the Arabic word and it's better to compare them instead with Philippine cognates or languages we actually use like English. Or if the language to compare to is a sister of the origin of the borrowed word.

Goma: The Japanese one came from Dutch, not Spanish. Yes it does share the same Greek root but do we really have to compare every word with every language especially for Japanese that just wrote foreign words in Katakana? Do we have to compare it with Indonesian gom as well? Indonesian maybe because we're Southeast asian. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 11:04, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Translation check

I've deleted the SOP entries created by Philipthegoat. Can you please review the translations of hibernation and terraforming that they added? Ultimateria (talk) 18:18, 15 June 2025 (UTC)

@Ultimateria I will delete them. Unless definitions are allowed there which I think they're not. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 04:01, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Opinions on Tagalog Jawi

I recently made a version of a Jawi script suited for the Tagalog language at my user page. It's still WIP, so it's pretty much raw.

Would you like to review it? What do you think? Anyway, thanks for reading. Udaradingin (talk) 18:02, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

@Udaradingin This is just a made-up thing right? Cause Tagalog dont use Arabic script lol 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 18:13, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Yeah. I made it just for fun. I think it's an interesting concept, though. Udaradingin (talk) 18:42, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

@Udaradingin Initially it really wasnt stress, it's also vowel length but stress usually comes with the length so people thought it's length.

For final syllable stress, no need to add the lengthener.

For glottal stop, just hamza symbol is fine. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 18:52, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

If you can notice on Tagalog phonetic IPA (bracket one not slash) if the stress is not on the final syllable, there's a length there. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 18:59, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

@Udaradingin I'd write the national anthem's first two lines as this

بَايَڠْ مَڬِيلَوْ، ڤَايرلَس نَڠْ سِلَڠَانَن،

آلَب نَڠْ ڤُوسُؤ، سَ ذِبْدِبْ مُي بُهَي 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 10:51, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

@Udaradingin @Ysrael214 My apologies for stepping in unexpectedly, but definitely Tagalog has been used for Jawi. An example is the 2022 Maguindanao division plebiscite (picture from COMELEC)

فُمَفَيَغْ كَبَا نَا حَتِءنْ ااَنْغْ فْرُبِنْسِيَ نَنْغْ مَغِيِنْدانَاوْ سا دَلَوَنْغْ (2) هِوَالَيْ نَا فْرُبِنْسِيَ نَا قِكِلَلَنِنْ بِلَنْغْ مَغِيِنْدانَاوْ دِل نُرْتِ اَتْ مَغِيِنْدانَاوْ دِل سُوُرْ اَلِنْسُنُدْ سَا بَتَاسْ رِفُبْلِكَ بِلاَنْغْ 11550؟

Relevant reddit thread: [1] — 🍕 Yivan000 ^view_talk 10:18, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

@Yivan000 Is this page on your watchlist lol.

I saw that when I was doing research on Sulat Sug, not sure if that's officially what Maguindanaons use, but not a fan of what the Commission on Elections made but because of the nasal sound.

And doesn't provide the stress/length, and Magindanaw is written as مَغِيْنْدانَاوْ (maḡiyndānāw). Like why are all long when it's just the second syllable that is long, probably Malay Jawi inspired. Correct one (based on my interactions with Maguindanaons on how they write it is مَغِنْدَاْنَوْ (maḡindānaw). Kikilalanin is written with q and k characters, maybe to show lenition? Magindanaw characters in the letter are different in Maguindanao del Norte. Why is one Magiyndānāu and one is Magindānāudil. I get the del part but what happened to the ي character? Look also on how "hindi" was written, the glottal stop was totally ignored. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 10:58, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

pipitsugin

I previously created an entry for this one back in 2018, but was deleted after an RFV of questionable circumstances. I had no good idea about what precise translation of this term into English when I created it, but this is a common pejorative and quite a mildly vulgar one. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 19:14, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko Who deleted that one? Who added the rfv? It is a common insult that means "low class". 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 19:19, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

It was deleted after some IP placed in on RFV that went unresolved, but that was all a questionable move, since I added a rough approximation into English. Better way is to bring the word up to Tea Room, but they placed in RFV instead. IP is even thinking I'm a non-native speaker (I just have no idea how to gloss it, as the likes of Diksiyonaryo.ph wasn't around then), so I was quite intimidated. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 19:22, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko But I hear this one often such as in TV we should just be able to make a new entry with citations now 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 19:25, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

But I dont think it is vulgar? It's pejorative sure but it's like saying "you low value person" but even kids can say it.

It's at Pambansang Diksiyonaryo and KWF's for goodness' sake 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 19:27, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko Are you telling it here because you want it created again? 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 19:30, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

Yes, and I'm planning to recreate it. It has been for years, and I hear it quite a lot. TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

@TagaSanPedroAko Go for it just have citations listed 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 19:36, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

I'm mostly editing from the mobile site by now.

Honestly, back when I first created this one 7 years ago, I have listed this translation "low-quality" (that's the only one I can think of, from its usage in "pipitsuging produkto"), then came the IP that brought it to RFV. They want the definition match those on the Tagalog-English Pinoy Dictionary (Pambansang Diksiyonaryo and KWF Diksiyonaryo wasn't around that time yet), but I insisted on not copying the definitions verbatim.

I can't say "low-quality" a good translation (at least when used for an object), but low-class seems to be a better one (which can cover its usage on people too). TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 21:42, 15 August 2025 (UTC)

Words from Morong, Rizal

Hello! I was wondering if we could add some words from Morong, Rizal to Wiktionary, since there seem to be no entries for some terms used in that area.

I came across this list: https://diagkaplang-rad.blogspot.com/2009/06/mga-basal-na-salitang-morong.html

The author of the blog attributed it to this source: Pascual, Timoteo; Guillermo, Liwayway (1978). Morong's 400 Years. Manila: UST Press.

There's also another list I found, though I wasn't able to find a proper source for it: https://www.angelfire.com/ms/lsmweb/mdor.html Geoffjop0908 (talk) 11:32, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 1. Are you from Morong? 2. We have already added some of those here Category:Rizal Tagalog, example istalapata because I confirmed some of the pronunciations but I agree we need to add more. Better to not include than mislead people if we're not confident enough even if doing on good faith. 3. If you are from Morong, or at least near the vicinity, do you know how to pronounce them? I went to Morong once to inquire but some of those they don't even know like "dumarine". Probably spoken by older people but who knows? 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 12:02, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 The one from angelfire I believe is also from the same source, in an article named "Mga Basal na Salitang Morong" in the Morong's 400 years periodical. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 12:03, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 Should look like this: https://imgur.com/a/wmamTCR 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 12:14, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

1. Yes, I live there.

3. Yes, I know how to pronounce them Geoffjop0908 (talk) 12:16, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 Finally, someone from Morong. Could you list down the words here with accent marks first? 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 12:17, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 Are you also a member of LiKas Morong? 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 12:18, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Ahh, sadly nope Geoffjop0908 (talk) 12:23, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Sure! This might take time, but I will post the list on another comment Geoffjop0908 (talk) 12:22, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

I'll also post this on my user page so I'll both edit this and my user page as time goes by. I excluded all the words that already has a page. Here's what I did for now.

Morong Words List

1. albe - no source found

2. ambabangas - no source found

3. ampupurit - no source found

4. antutube - no source found

5. antutulí - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/antutuli

6. aswít - usually pronounced like this

7. at-anó (atano, but ano has a glottal stop before it so it's just pronounced as at ano) - usually pronounced like this

8. báak - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=baak; https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/baak

9. bang- (no stress) - usually pronounced like this

10. bang-ál - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/bang-al

11. bang-í - most likely bangyi

12. barakbak - no source found

13. baríya - bariya; Tagalog entry does not have this pronunciation

14. bastyá or bastiyá - usually pronounced like this

15. báysak - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/baysak

16. bubog - morong meaning not there

17. bugloy - no source found

18. bukanog - no source found

19. buladór - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/bulador; and yes pronounced like this; also see bolador

20. bulos - no source found

21. bulúbor - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/bulubod

22. búnggan - most likely https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=bonggan

23. burág - usually pronounced like this

24. burangas - no source found

25. busangsang - no source found but found the word with different meaning https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=busangs%C::::3%A::::1ng

26. butityog - no source found

27. buturot - no source found

28. buyangyang - no source found; missing entry of buyangyang of different meaning https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=BUYANGYANG

29. buyóg - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/buyog

30. kambubuli - no source found

31. kambuta - no source found

32. kamuyâ - no source found; but pronounced like this

33. kanaghalâ - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/kanaghala

34. kanawari - no source found

35. kalayin or kalayín - no source found

36. kará - usually pronounced like this; missing Tagalog entry as well with different meaning https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=kara

37. kastór - kastor; morong meaning missing

38. katuwâ - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/katuwa (pnr)

39. kayóg - kayog; morong meaning missing

40. kinabóg - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/kinabog

41. kinapál - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/kinapal

42. kulapyáw - usually pronounced like this; missing entry of different meaning https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/kulapyaw

43. kulátay - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/kulatay

44. kumón - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/kumon

45. kurâ - usually pronounced like this; kura morong meaning missing;

46. kura-upos - no source found

47. kurawnga - no source found

48. kuról - https://www.tagalog.com/dictionary/index.php?embedded_search_keyword=kalayin#kurol

49. kurúdo - usually pronounced like this; it might just be the lengthening of https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=krudo

50. kutákot - usually pronounced like this

51. danglaw - no source found

52. dianggi - no source found

53. dinúlang - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=DINULANG+

54. disáltok - usually pronounced like this

55. elmandar - no source found

56. éh apâ - usually pronounced like this

57. galáw - usually pronounced like this; galaw morong meaning missing

58. ganityo - no source found

59. gangga - no source found

60. gatô - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=gato; by the way there were other words here

61. hanéh - hane

62. hangya - no source found

63. hanruki - no source found

64. hanrutrot - no source found

65. harurot - harurot morong meaning missing

66. harumba - no source found

67. himulot - no source found

68. hínlaláyon - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/hinlalayon

69. hirhír - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=hidhid; missing entry as well (hidhid)

70. hunos or hunós - hunos morong meaning missing

71. hurhór - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=hudh%C::::3%B::::3d; missing entry as well (hudhod)

72. huros - no source found

73. huran - no source found

74. hútar - usually pronounced like this

75. huyág - usually pronounced like this

76. íkoy - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/ikoy

77. huhô - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=huho; and yes usually pronounced like this

78. inakáw or nakáw - usually pronounced like this

79. iib - no source found

80. ingkat - no source found

81. íngin - usually pronounced like this

82. inglo - no source found

83. istingildi - no source found

84. ísli or ísle - usually pronounced like this

85. iyílo - usually pronounced like this

86. láhir - lahid; also there are some missing entries of lahir that have different meanings: https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=lahir

87. lamúray - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=LAMURAY+

88. lang-î - usually pronounced like this

89. lántitî - usually pronounced like this

90. laskit - no source found

91. lawò - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=LAWO

92. libog - libog but the Morong meaning is not there

93. lipós - usually pronounced like this

94. lutá-lutáti - usually pronounced like this

95. lutók - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=LUTOK+

96. mabuhay - mabuhay morong meaning missing

97. mákiná - makina morong meaning missing

98. magpabayó - which is most likely just a conjugation of https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=bayo

99. magsangì - sangi

100. malma - no source found

101. mawidwid - no source found

102. minukmók - usually pronounced like this

103. nabanlikán - no source found; but usually pronounced like this

104. nakahamya - no source found

105. nakatingarngár (tingarngár) - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=tingadngad

106. nagsidera - no source found

107. ngirngír - ngidngid

108. singkuramos - no source found

109. singuatsi - no source found

110. niruguán or nirug-án - usually pronounced like this

111. paklóng - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/paklong

112. palángas - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/palangas

113. paliman-an - no source found

114. palipor - no source found; missing entry for palipor of different meaning (https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/palipor)

115. panabò - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=panabo

116. pamíwas - usually pronounced like this

117. pasimunrót - https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/pasimundot

118. paugát - most likely https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/kaugat

119. paung-ong - no source found

120. pingkían - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=PINGKIAN

121. pintós - usually pronounced like this

122. pirinsa - the morong meaning is not in the entry

123. piríso - usually pronounced like this

124. pirisúhan - usually pronounced like this

125. pistain - no source found

126. porbents - no source found

127. pungot - no source found; missing entry for pungot of another meaning (https://diksiyonaryo.ph/search/pungot)

128. púpo - usually pronounced like this; missing the morong meaning in pupo

129. ragayray - no source found

130. ramal - no source found

131. rampól - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=dampol

132. rasî - https://kwfdiksiyonaryo.ph/?query=dasi

133. rasían - no source found

134. risris - no source found Geoffjop0908 (talk) 13:32, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 Do you know words here? Lunday-ng-Cardona-compressed.pdf 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 14:40, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Some of them are familiar and it seems to overlap with some words in the list Geoffjop0908 (talk) 14:57, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 None of these has glottal stops at all? 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 15:02, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Ah yeah, they should normally have a glottal stop like in a normal Tagalog word (when the word starts with a vowel). There should also be some words in the list with the ◌̀ grave accent and they should have a glottal stop in the end Geoffjop0908 (talk) 15:08, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

If you were referring to something like but-o, so far I have not encountered one in the list yet Geoffjop0908 (talk) 15:26, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Dictionaries seem to say kanaghalâ instead. I'm wondering some of those end with glottal stops or not. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 15:54, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I may need to check carefully on these again Geoffjop0908 (talk) 16:03, 20 September 2025 (UTC)

@Ysrael214 I've updated the list to include sources. However, as you mentioned, we must not include the ones with no sources yet. I might have to scour for some sources or even confirm it with some people for the words that have no sources. Geoffjop0908 (talk) 08:54, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 Real life should be the main source, if you actually heard something pronounced that way there, that's fine. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 12:55, 21 September 2025 (UTC)

Alright, I'll take note of that Geoffjop0908 (talk) 05:11, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 So have you actually heard of albe? You earlier said it's álbe, then changed it to albé but diksiyonaryo.ph doesnt have the same meaning of "prayer". 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 06:50, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

Welp, I haven't heard that word before. I just think álbe might be the "most likely" pronunciation to this word Geoffjop0908 (talk) 07:05, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

@Geoffjop0908 Ahh I thought you actually heard as someone from Morong. We shouldn't assume pronunciations then unless heard, inquired from someone who has heard, or read from a reliable source. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 07:11, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

Lol yep, I'll take note of that. So, I might need to consult some people who have heard the words I don't know lol Geoffjop0908 (talk) 07:13, 22 September 2025 (UTC)

Updated words:

Isli

Kutakot

Kamuya

Eh apa

Hutar

Lang-i

Lantiti

Atano

Added words:

L-M words Geoffjop0908 (talk) 16:17, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

Cleaned the list and added N-R words Geoffjop0908 (talk) 18:08, 1 October 2025 (UTC)

Reversion of labels & qualifiers for kamusta

Why were the label & qualifier for colloquial & informal respectively reverted? Barce (talk) 01:29, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

@Barce It's in the wrong position 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 02:59, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

@Ysrael214 Thanks for the info. Besides going through this: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Index_to_policies What else should I read before considering an edit? Is there a particular template that serves as an example for all tagalog entries? Barce (talk) 08:17, 18 October 2025 (UTC)

@Barce Wiktionary:Entry layout 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 03:13, 19 October 2025 (UTC)

Akdang-guhit

Undo revision 88175112 by ~2025-33046-13 (talk) You call that research based on only two results on Wikipedia? Are they used elsewhere?

The truth is I'm still searching this term in other websites and Google books but only found this as it is have been used in Tagalog Wikipedia and scribd documents anyway, yet this term was old... I don't know what will happen to this if I or us cannot verify this term even it was too old to be exist... ~2025-33046-13 (talk) 05:39, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-33046-13 You see Wikipedia is not a valid source because I can remove those usages in those two articles right now and it would be unused. If this can't be verified, it will be deleted. Plain and simple. Also, akdang-guhit likely means illustration based on the same page "mangguguhit" was translated from "illustrator". Also nobody uses akdang guhit even in the academe. Please see Wiktionary:Criteria for inclusion. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 05:47, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

So Wikipedia wasn't valid source for the term as have been used, but needed by other sources from sites if it was really used or commonly known. I get your point that you mentioned. Thanks for your answer. Have a great job. (Also it wasn't likely illustration because it is mean larawang-guhit and mangguguhit can also be in other meanings depend on users' point or sense). ~2025-33046-13 (talk) 06:10, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

@~2025-33046-13 As I usually recommend on people that enters rarely used words to this site, if you want the word to be included here, start a trend. If you want, you can publish a book with a title "Mga akdang-guhit ni <person>", inspire other Filipinos to use the term, then sure we can add the word to this site. Thanks. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 06:13, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

that was inspirational of how you recommend. Thanks. ~2025-33046-13 (talk) 06:22, 16 November 2025 (UTC)

Unique Terms in Taglish

I forgot how we handle Taglish terms. I suddenly remembered the word "magkavibes" being actively used in colloquial speech. How do you think should this be included given how we've been going it so far? Mar vin kaiser (talk) 02:42, 19 December 2025 (UTC)

@Mar vin kaiser Talk is here Wiktionary talk:Tagalog entry guidelines#Taglish No consensus for adjectives yet, just not to use English-Tagalog verbs. Still code-switching for me though since meaning isn't Philippine language specific. Kinda the same like "Magka-university kami ni Ken." and magka-university is common.

If ever it would be, mag- (relational prefix) + ka-vibes (someone sharing the same vibes), like eg. magkapatid. vibe doesn't seem to be PH English exclusive. 𝄽 ysrael214 (talk) 06:28, 19 December 2025 (UTC)