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Early list of administrators

The following 5 users have sysop rights as of March 17, 2003. one of these (in bold italics) also has developer rights.

The following 2 users have sysop rights as of September, 2003.

The following 2 users have sysop rights as of January 17, 2004.

Appointed May 10, 2004

Voting history

I see that someone has been adding voting histories for newly appointed admins. I really don't think that this is desireable. All admins are equal no matter who supported their nominations. Eclecticology 08:33, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)

That was me. I put that all there for the sake of full disclosure, it has nothing to do with equality. Of course all admins are equal no matter who supported them. I think having an archive of their election to admin status is a good thing. Kevin Rector 03:15, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
I've been giving this a think too. The concept of Full Disclosure is admirable, but so is the concept of a Secret Ballot. I don't want The David to take vengence on me, a mere mortal newbie, once he becomes sysop just because I voted against him. I believe Full Disclosure applies to voting only on proposals and prepositions. :-)
Just for the record, I have no fear of The David. (Perhaps I should?) :-) But what we want to avoid is having someone being afraid (an irrational feeling) to express a negative vote. Cheers, Stranger --SSL69 23:25, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
P.S. Upon re-reading. . . Fear can be very rational; it is feelings which are, ipso facto, irrational. --Stranger (SSL69 02:24, 24 August 2005 (UTC))

Requests for administrator rights

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--Richardb 00:35, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC) Enough for me to quickly clean up multiple page vandalism when I spot it, if there is a mutliple page clean up function available. I just reverted about a dozen pages after vandalism.

Connel MacKenzie

I would like to nominate user:Connel MacKenzie for becoming a sysop.

Please vote on what you think about this:


  • --Polyglot 22:49, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • --Wonderfool 15:35, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC) definitely, he's obsessed with this site
  • --Connel MacKenzie 20:39, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC) I'd be honored.
  • --SemperBlotto Connel does a fine job at fighting vandalism.
  • --Jun-Dai 22:35, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC) As long as he doesn't use the word oriental.  ;-)
  • --Stephen G. Brown 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • --Richardb 13:44, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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Vote ended with appointment. Eclecticology 01:56, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)


I would like to nominate user:SemperBlotto for becoming a sysop.

Please vote on what you think about this:


  • --Polyglot 22:49, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • --Wonderfool 15:35, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC) He knows his Italian, and thats a good thing by me. Just out of curiosity, would I have any chance in hell of getting a nomination?
  • --Connel MacKenzie 20:39, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC) SemperBlotto is a wonderful contributor, and has had pinpoint accuracy with his {{rfd}}s.
  • --Jun-Dai 22:35, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC) If ever there were a shoe-in, this is it.
  • --Stephen G. Brown 10:13, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • --Richardb 13:44, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
  • --I am willing to accept this responsibility if that would be useful to the project. SemperBlotto 23:11, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)


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Vote ended with appointment. Eclecticology 01:56, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)


I would like to nominate user: for becoming a sysop.

Please vote on what you think about this:


  • -- 18:13, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC) I'd vote for you! I think you'll be a great addition to Wiktionary!


  • --Jun-Dai 07:34, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC) I'm assuming this is a joke. I think that administratorship should be restricted to people with logins.
  • --\Mike 12:03, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC) He, and also restricted to people who has more than 2 edits (one here and one (word) on the user page :)

Vote ended with denial Eclecticology 21:48, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC) This is not a serious request.


I would like to nominate User:Maveric149 for becoming a sysop.

Please vote on what you think about this:



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Rejected without prejudice. He is already a steward. Eclecticology 06:39, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)


I would like to nominate Wonderfool for becoming a sysop. In fact, I'm actually just curious to see who would vote for me. I reckon I can do this stuff now. If only there were more users, then I'd probs be a dead-cert. --Wonderfool 12:31, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Please vote on what you think about this:


  • --Connel MacKenzie 16:44, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC) - You did about a thousand or two entries in Dec/Jan. I had some complaints about format, but content is content. Serious contributors should have the ability to seriously clean up vandalism too.
  • --\Mike 13:04, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC) - No reason to object; seems to be a serious contributor
  • --Polyglot 13:34, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • --Kevin Rector 03:33, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)


  • --User:SemperBlotto would be against. (note: that was added by User:Wonderfool) - Well, it's true that he doesn't have the ability to keep to Wiki formatting all the time, and his English entries are not nearly as good as his French ones; but I am not voting either way. SemperBlotto 07:10, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Uncle G

I would like to nominate User:Uncle G to be an administrator. He has most of what I consider to be the prerequsites:- He writes good articles, properly formatted. He has a good understanding of the Wiki architecture and "behind-the-scene" things. He takes an active interest in defending us from attack and is good at reverting vandalism. He is often online when no other administrater is awake. (But he hasn't yet created a User page, and does not have a verified email address.) SemperBlotto 08:57, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I accept the nomination. I now have a long enough contribution history for you to be able to judge me, I think. Thank you to SemperBlotto for pointing out the e-mail item. I had in fact set up an electronic mailbox especially for WikiMedia, just in case I forgot my password, but I had originally checked the "Disable e-mail from other users" checkbox. (I do have rather a lot of mail to deal with, daily.) I've now un-checked the box, and a test message from myself to myself has got through. I cannot imagine that the sort of people that we block at Wiktionary will ask to be un-blocked by mail, but SemperBlotto is right that it would be a potential difficulty if the avenue didn't exist. (Please use User talk:Uncle G and not electronic mail to reach me.) Uncle G 13:42, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)


  • -- --Wonderfool 12:20, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) Cos he warrants it more than i do and is on often when theres no sysops around. But get a userpage dude
  • -- \Mike 12:44, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) I read his 'pedia talk... and I agree it serves us a reminder not to judge a contributor from the colo(u)r of her user page link. :)
  • -- Polyglot 13:34, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC) I don't think a user page or email address are necessary. All that should count is the quality of the contributions. Is Uncle G interested in becoming a sysop?
  • -- Kevin Rector 03:33, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)


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Kevin Rector

Normally I wouldn't do this, but I'm nominating myself because I like to do cleanup work/janatorial stuff and there's a lot to do here. I promise only to use them for good and not for harm. Also, admin tools would be very handy in RC patrol which is needed here more than at Wikipedia because there are fewer of us. FYI if you care about this sort of thing I have 1635 edits as of right this second. I'm not a particularly talented Lexicographer but I'm decent at fact checking and organizing and dusting. Kevin Rector 03:26, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

P.S. I was just here for a rash of AP vandalism and there was nothing I could do... if I were an admin I could have handled it early... what a pain that was. Kevin Rector 09:32, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Please vote on what you think about this:


  • Just the sort we need. SemperBlotto 11:52, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks, that's a nice thing to say. Kevin Rector 03:45, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
  • Would have been nice again tonight for the latest AP vandal flurry. I'm in favor. --Dvortygirl 07:34, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks for the vote of confidence. Kevin Rector 07:43, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Weekend vandalism flurries seem more common now...we could certainly use another weekend regular. --Connel MacKenzie 07:49, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks, I'll do my best. Kevin Rector 08:00, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Soutenir You were next on my list for people that I'd nominate, in the same vain as Uncle G. Transwikiing is a big task. --Wonderfool 21:12, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Thanks. Actually Transwikification is what brought me here in the first place. Kevin Rector 21:28, 1 May 2005 (UTC)



HI... I would like to nominate myself as an admin, because while I was going through Korea Administrators section, there is no one and I am sure that some one who is able to speak Korean should look after Korean pages. I have spent some times with the Wiktionary... N I am sure I can contribute in Wiktionary.... 2:21, 19, May, 2005.. Time of Indonesia [WIB] GMT +7:00

This user does not exist? Try to create a username first and do some edits so we get to know you a bit.
Or do you want adminship on the Korean wiktionary? Unless there is already a page for those issues there, you might have to ask a m:steward to make you admin there. In such case a request is to be made at m:Requests for permissions. \Mike 19:40, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I do not consider this to be a serious request for this site. It will be removed unless there are objections to that action. Eclecticology 03:17, 22 May 2005 (UTC)


I nominate Jun-Dai because, in my opinion, his contributions, especially those to discussions, are among the most valuable ones. He's been here since December 04 and is in the top 50 in terms of edits. Ncik 20 May 2005

<Jun-Dai 18:38, 23 May 2005 (UTC)> I'd be honored. </Jun-Dai>

Please vote on what you think about this:


  • --Connel MacKenzie 12:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC) he is in an Asian timezone, a very sick puppy usually lurking/monitoring when few others are around. Sleep disorder or not, he's still got my vote. --02:50, 26 May 2005 (UTC) Furthermore, I think multilingual abilities should affect one's eligibility. Jun-Dai has the ability to simply look at a Japanese entry and know whether it is vandalism or not (where the same task would take me three hours or perhaps three weeks to make the same determination.) --Connel MacKenzie 01:51, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • --Kevin Rector 16:23, 25 May 2005 (UTC) I think he's a very valuable contributor.
  • --SemperBlotto 16:41, 25 May 2005 (UTC) I'll second that.
  • Agreed, Jun-Dai seems eminently capable. --Wytukaze 13:45, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • --Thoughtful additions to policy discussions and generally a conscientious contributor.Dvortygirl 18:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- TheDaveRoss 02:37, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC) Much to contribute, and valuable opinions and ideas on the way things should be done here, also, he has a fun style of demarking his comments :)


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Comments: <Jun-Dai 17:28, 25 May 2005 (UTC)> Re: Connel. LOL. I'm actually in San Francisco, but most of my postings are done while I'm at work, or late at night (after midnight). I knew I was in trouble one night when dawn was breaking and hippietrail (who is in Australia, I believe) made a comment to the effect that he couldn't stay up any later and had to go to bed. I guess you could say that I'm psychologically in an Asian time zone, but that might be stretching it. </Jun-Dai>


Gerard promised not to even mention UW. He is sysop (and more) elsehwere, and is willing to just help squish vandalism here.

  • Accept nomination: I am regularly on the en:wiktionary, when I am online I am reachable on IRC. As to wishing an end to en:wiktionary, this is not for me but for the en:community to decide. GerardM 21:07, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)


  • --Connel MacKenzie 07:18, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Even thought I don't beleive it is possible for him to go for very long without mentioning UW... TheDaveRoss 07:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • --Insightful, remarkable. Welcome. —Dvortygirl 08:11, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Jun-Dai 08:22, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Polyglot 11:55, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) I met Gerard personally in Rotterdam. He is a great chap and a fine member of the team. He cares a lot about this project and wants to change it for the better. He has to realize change best comes slowly and gradually. Anyway, he will probably have his hands full with getting UW to work, but I'm sure he will help fight vandalism over here when he sees it.
  • Should he accept soon enough to prove he's watchful of en: he'd be a great admin --Wytukaze 17:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • \Mike 07:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)


  • -- Not active enough, and apparently planning to bring an end to en:, 24 16:22, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    Even with your response: would you elect a president who didn't like his own country? 24 19:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    Our first several presidents didn't like their country...but that aside, I am sure the Gerard likes the idea of Wiktionary, he just has some new ideas about how best to actualize Wiktionary. Also, sysops aren't presidents, they are more like the neighborhood watch. - TheDaveRoss 19:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)


An amazingly contemplative contributor, now embarking on audio-izing Wiktionary. (May need delete privs just to get the naming convention worked out satisfactorily?)

  • Accept nomination: Thanks, all. I will gladly offer any help I can to improve the project and keep it tidy. Other contributors and administrators, please join us in IRC. We have much to learn from one another. —Dvortygirl 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Time zone: Pacific Standard/Daylight Time, UTC-8, night owl/various weird hours.


  • --Connel MacKenzie 07:18, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Tirelessly unmasking the idiomatic enigmas of our convoluted "language" TheDaveRoss 07:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Jun-Dai 08:22, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) It seems to me it would be silly not to give Dvortygirl the adminship.
  • -- SemperBlotto 10:57, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) Excellent contributor. Always on the lookout for trouble.
  • -- Polyglot 11:55, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) Absolutely.
  • -- Dennis Valeev 16:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) The Idiomatic Talmud.
  • I was honestly astounded that Dvorty wasn't an admin when I first met her. She already looks and acts the part, why not give her the badge? --Wytukaze 17:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • GerardM 21:12, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • \Mike 07:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Kevin Rector 16:31, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC) Excellent contributor who would make an excellent administrator.
  • --Jonny 16:33, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC) Of course, she not only cares for the project but is a great recruiter.


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Appointed. Eclecticology 04:10, 2005 Jun 13 (UTC)

\Mike [User:Mike]

"Always" online. UTC+1 (Sweden), mostly active afternoons - early nights, but may leave the computer completely for a day once in a while. (Wikt: name is User:Mike, IRC name is "\Mike".) ([EDIT]: as Wonderfool accurately remarked, I am bureaucrat on sv:. And also sysop on sv:wp... \Mike )

  • Accept nomination: An hono(u)r to do so. (Mr. A.P. cannot be kickbanned fast enough ;)) \Mike 06:52, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)


  • --Connel MacKenzie 07:18, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- The more Swedes the merrier I say. TheDaveRoss 07:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • --Thoughtful and helpful. —Dvortygirl 08:11, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Jun-Dai 08:23, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Polyglot 11:55, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • This man is enthusiastic and intelligent, bung him in --Wytukaze 17:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • GerardM 21:17, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I like this fella, and it seems as though he's a bureaucat on sv: --Wonderfool 16:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • You can never have too many Swedes. Kevin Rector 03:16, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Always online at weird times. (GMT, generally on evening until early morning my time --Wytukaze)

  • Accept nomination: Surprised as I am at this, and late though my acceptance is due to an offline event, I would be honoured to gleefully accept. Allow me to echo Dvortygirl in coercing you (yes, you) to join IRC. --Wytukaze 17:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


  • --Connel MacKenzie 07:18, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Although I have trouble keeping track of which nick he is in IRC... TheDaveRoss 07:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • --A good teacher and conscientious contributor. —Dvortygirl 08:11, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- Jun-Dai 08:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • GerardM 21:13, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • \Mike 07:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • He'll do --Wonderfool 16:25, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Rich Farmbrough

I would like to tentatively nominate myself as an admin, because I just spent some time reverting a vandal and it would have been so much quicker to do "rollbacks". This vandal (as you all know) makes Wiktionary very unappealing to the general public, so I would be happy to divert some effort into restraining him and his ilk. I am an admin in Wikipedia, if that matters. Rich Farmbrough 22:37, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)


  • Trusted sysop on Wikipedia, why not? Being a sysop is not a privilege. 24 21:06, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Against: --Wonderfool 22:46, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC) Dude, these things take a lot of time. Clearly you'll have to prove yourself more here. All the users here have rolled back and tagged on the rfd templates against the persistent AP vandal at least one, I'm sure. However, during the early hours there is a lack of admins sometimes. But theres a bunch of ppl I'd nominate before you, sorry. But i guess u were expecting this answer.

Sure, perhaps it's worth nominating them. The Wikipedia is more proof against vandals because there are more users and more admins. Not much can be done about the former, but something can be done about the latter, on Wiktionary, with due care and consideration of course. Rgds. Rich Farmbrough 10:30, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
<Jun-Dai 05:47, 6 May 2005 (UTC)> You are absolutely right, Rich. I disagree with Wonderfool that these things [should?] take a lot of time, but I will feel more comfortable voting for you when you've been contributing for at least a month or so. I really hope you won't take offence to that. Anyways, while vandalism is a problem here, our larger problems include simply a lack of content and not enough organized discussion about what it is we're really trying to accomplish in this project. </Jun-Dai>
<Jun-Dai 08:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)> Well, I guess Rich either lost interest, or got offended. </Jun-Dai>

Action: Since he has had only 1 edit in the last month, I interpret this as a lack of interest even though he has continued to be active in Wikipedia. This name will be dropped from the list in the absence of any surge of support in the next few days. Eclecticology 01:22, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Dennis Valeev

I, Dennis, am the next wannabe, would jump at the chance to sink my teeth into adminship. ;) Don't take me seriously, if anything. --Dennis Valeev 00:27, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Time zone: GMT +3:00 - Moscow, Russian Federation


  • --Connel MacKenzie 06:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • -- I have only met Dennis recently, but I feel secure in his ability and dedication. - TheDaveRoss 06:43, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • I agree with Dave here, Dennis always seems to be wondering what else to put into Wiktionary and ways to improve existing data and so on. --Wytukaze 13:45, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • \Mike 07:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)


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Request suspended: This person came to us in mid-May, and I have seen no complaints about his behaviour. However, he has not made any edits in the last month. I would therefore consider this request cancelled for lack of interest. This is without prejudice to any similar request in the future. Eclecticology 19:00:56, 2005-07-26 (UTC)


(Eastern Standard Time: typical hours are atypical at best, 8am to 4am depending on the day.) A solid contributor, very often online on IRC.

  • Accept nomination: I will be willing ~10 weeks from now, so consider this a postdated acceptance, I will be internet (and electricity-less) for roughly that duration and therefore would be useless for sometime. - TheDaveRoss 07:25, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)


  • --Connel MacKenzie 07:18, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • --Dave has come up to speed very quickly, conscientiously and prolifically and has already proven to be a vigilant vandal-watcher. Also an avid reader with an extraordinary vocabulary. —Dvortygirl 08:11, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • --Jun-Dai 08:21, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) No hesitation here.
  • --Dennis Valeev 16:18, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC) Very ardent contributor.
  • No reason not to, 24 16:20, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • There's few more deserving than Dave for this, says I --Wytukaze 17:14, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • GerardM 21:13, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • \Mike 07:00, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Kevin Rector 02:33, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC) - A valuable contributor.


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  • Is there any rush? 16 weeks in a cult brainwashing camp can change anyone. Give him a couple weeks back from holiday first so we can be sure his head is purged of all that California surfing jive. Cool, dude? --Stranger, SSL69 23:12, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
I must admit, I share all your fears of a brainwashed Dave. But don't worry, if he even shows an inkling of being different from how he was — erratic behaviour, souvenirs, new experiences — I'm clubbing him over the head until he's back to normal or completely incoherent. Here, have a smiley: Smiley.png --Wytukaze 23:22, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

NOTE Because of the nominee's indicated absence action on this request is deferred without prejudice until early September. Eclecticology June 30, 2005 17:41 (UTC)

Note: Re-pasted from irc (from a couple minutes ago):
*** thedaveross (n=chatzill@---------.vermontel.net) has joined channel #wiktionary
<thedaveross> just stopping by to say that although camp is done I am adding a 6 week roadtrip to the end of my summer, I'll be away from you all a little bit longer
*** thedaveross has left channel #wiktionary
--Connel MacKenzie 23:42, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Stephen G. Brown

An astute, regular, and prolific contributor to the project.

  • Accept/decline nomination:
  • Thank you for nominating me, and I accept the nomination. —Stephen 07:36, 17 August 2005 (UTC)


  • --Dvortygirl 05:17, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
  • --Polyglot 08:48, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Has been around a long time, knows different languages and it looks like he's been doing it already. (Besides I don't want to get two people upset with me in one day.) Smiley.png --Stranger, (SSL69 02:21, 24 August 2005 (UTC))
  • да --SemperBlotto 16:31, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
  • --I'd like to see those forrestry entries cleaned up someday. If this nomination will help fill out the Russian entries, then I think it is good. Just don't delete cCCP.  :-) He'd be our first admin in that timezone UTC+4, right? --Connel MacKenzie 17:48, 4 September 2005 (UTC)



Can we appoint him already - before he comes to his senses and changes his mind? We're down a couple sysops already and a couple are MIA. Cheers, --Stranger 23:21, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

Jon Harald Søby

I would like to become sysop on the English Wiktionary to help remove vandalism. I am very often on IRC, monitoring the recent changes (and thus discovering a lot of vandalism). Having the opportunity to delete spam on sight would make things much more efficient for me than they are now, having to add Template:rfd to the entry, and then posting about it on WS:RFD. I am already admin on the Nauruan Wikipedia and the Norwegian Wiktionary, bureaucrat on the Norwegian Wikipedia and Wikimedia Steward (as of January 11). Jon Harald Søby 19:55, 13 January 2006 (UTC)


  1. Yes please - ASAP - SemperBlotto 20:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
  2. He seems like a well-intentioned person. He likes to resolve disputes. --Primetime 20:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
  3. Gerard Foley 22:00, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
  4. I had no need to look at xyr actions on other projects. Xyr actions in assuming temporary administrator status here, to help SemperBlotto, demonstrate that xe can be trusted with administrator tools. Uncle G 05:12, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
  5. Can't a steward make themselves be an admin? If not, yeah OK. --Dangherous 14:20, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
    • In theory he can, but people who do that lose respect in the community. He's doing it right. Eclecticology 17:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Xe not only can, but did, as a temporary measure in order to help with the SemperBlotto impersonators. (See the block log and deletion log for the past two days.) Xe then stripped xyrself of the privileges afterwards and applied here for community approval of permanent administrator status. That's the very thing that I'm referring to above. Xe has already demonstrated that xe will use administrator tools to the betterment of the project. Uncle G 18:24, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
      • How very professional of him. (I mean, how professional of...err... xim?). There's seems to be quite a lot of blocking to do! --Dangherous 19:37, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
  6. Ncik 15:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
  7. Template:trad! --birdy (:> )=| 01:40, 17 January 2006 (UTC)



I had planned to wait until there were 10 supporting votes, but I have accelerated the process so that he can help to deal with a current crisis. Eclecticology 10:17, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Newnoise (Wonderfool)

"They cannot be readmitted without convincing at least 90% of the community including at least 9 members that they have been rehabilitated". I'd like to be a sysop again. I won't do anything stoopid like delete the main page again, I swear! And shall fight vandalism when I'm around

  • Wonderfool, I suspect that you would have more success in convincing any Wikimedia project community to entrust you with administrator tools again were the continuing situation at Wikipedia resolved. It isn't, right now, and your present actions are not conducive to gaining the trust of other editors. You are still the subject of an indefinite ban from Wikipedia, and you now have a record of creating a string of sockpuppet accounts (w:Category:Wikipedia:Suspected sockpuppets of Wonderfool) in order to evade that ban. I recommend your withdrawing this self-nomination and resolving the situation at Wikipedia first. Uncle G 02:52, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Nomination withdrawn by nominee, 2006-01-11


Hello, I want to nominate Amgine for being sysop because he always has a watchful eye on this wiktionary and is online on IRC. He has already done a lot against vandalism on en.wiktionary. --Spacebirdy 20:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the nomination; I accept. - Amgine/talk 21:00, 2 December 2005 (UTC)


  1. --Spacebirdy 20:56, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
  2. --Jon Harald Søby 21:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
  3. --SemperBlotto 22:10, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
  4. Amgine is already an admin on Wikinews and elsewhere, watches RecentChanges vigilantly, and has done stand-in sysopping and vandal cleanup here when nobody was around. He has my wholehearted trust and support for adminship on Wiktionary. --Dvortygirl 06:56, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
  5. --Gerard Foley 03:58, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
  6. He deals well with vanadalism, and he's quite responsive on IRC, level-headed and sure. If only for the last 2 months. — Fudoreaper 17:50, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
  7. Cute seeing votes against him...does this mean the vandals are scared of him? --Connel MacKenzie T C 03:42, 14 December 2005 (UTC) That's not why I'm voting for him, BTW, just a note for my amusement. --Connel MacKenzie T C 16:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
  8. \Mike 11:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
  9. --Cspurrier 05:11, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
  10. --Tohru 14:47, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
  11. Kipmaster 20:36, 25 December 2005 (UTC) I'm confident about him (He wants to learn French, so he must be nice :p )
  12. I'll wager that I know Amgine better than most, and I think he'll be a perfectly good admin. Dan100 00:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
  13. --Pill 13:12, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
  14. --If I was still one, I'd not vote for him, but, alas, tis not to be --Wonderfool 22:31, 2 January 2006 (UTC)


  1. Primetime
  2. Grye
  3. Methodology
  4. Crink
  5. Neutralizer-I also think he is a mega troll; delighting in conflict and disruption. Why else would his user page say this obvious lie;[1]in spite of the evidence to the contrary [2] months after being asked to stop the confusion: "Oppose. That said, Amgine, please change your user page, it's confusing. -- IlyaHaykinson 06:55, 6 October 2005 (UTC)", "Oppose, thanks for letting me know about this vote Neutralizer. Although Amgine really needs to update his user page to reflect his curreny activity level. Dan100 (Talk) 08:28, 6 October 2005 (UTC)"
Comment; appears someone vandalized Cartman's vote by deleting it with no comment? Methodology 22:31, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Apparently the deleter feels the vote was not Cartman. I have asked the deleter to please check this out with Cartman BEFORE deleting the vote. Methodology 22:43, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
  1. He's either a jerk or really irrational--I'm not sure which. In my case, he insisted that my entry pseudologue was not a real word, even though I gave two references--both available online (one with a definition [[3] and another that said it was in Merriam-Webster's Unabridged [4]). He then threatened to block me [5]. If he had been an administrator, he would have been able to do that even though I later won the dispute! He would have done more than just waste a great deal of my time. It later turned out that there was even a third source--answers.com. Further, on the RFV page, I actually caught him lying [6] in order to get the entry deleted. We can't allow people like this to be in charge. Whether he's your buddy or not is irrelevant because he obviously is unable to make reasoned decisions. Primetime 05:40, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
      • I consider myself neutral in this case (having no affiliation to either part), and as far as I can see, Amgine has done nothing wrong. It was simply you who were unfamiliar with the rules of Wiktionary. The blocking "threat" was also deserved, given this edit on Amgine's talk page. Jon Harald Søby 13:07, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
    Actually, that comment was made at 00:13, long after he threatened to block me at 00:03. Primetime 15:47, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
    Reminding you what the rules are if you are in the process of breaking them should be seen as a friendly gesture rather than a threat to block you. Besides, Amgine is not an administrator, so he could not possible be able to block you. Jon Harald Søby 16:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
    "While I do some work on en.wikt, I am currently on the site for vandal patrol along with several other sites I am monitoring . . . You have now reverted my application of the tag three times. Please do not violate the 3RR." Could you explain why you think he mentioned that he was on vandal patrol? We weren't talking about vandal patrolling, and it seems especially threatening given that he also mentioned the 3RR. I'm not a very subtle person (as you can tell), but his threat was pretty obvious to me. Primetime 17:26, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
    Your social behaviour suggested to me you are not very familiar with wiki communities and their collaborative/cooperative nature. So I felt I should ask you not to violate the policy, in case you were unaware of it. (Saying I was on vandal patrol was to explain why I was on Wiktionary at all, and in part why I was not editing your entry.) - Amgine/talk 18:28, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
  2. No Way Grye 11:12, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
    • Can I vote NO twice, since I got 2 invitations to vote? We'd be very pleased...Grye
    I find it very suspicious that you got "invitations to vote". This seems very dubious. Jon Harald Søby 20:35, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
    No, the user really did receive invitations to vote against this RfA. Rather a number of people did so. User:Primetime has gone so far as to forge votes in an RfdA against me on Wikinews, and there's the interesting User:Gd, whose recently created user page contradicts his en.wikipedia user page but makes some great edits. - Amgine/talk 08:56, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
    I didn't forge anyone's vote on Wikinews. I was just tallying them [7]. They had already voted against you: [8], [9] see? Cartman had brought the complaint, and stated explicitly that he wanted you out: [10].
    One thing many of you may notice in these discussions is that many people on Wikinews have a grudge against Amgine, many of them administrators [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17]. It also looks as if he is extremely eager to block users: [18]. He will also involve you in many dispute resolutions: [19]. It appears as if people have problems with him on Wikipedia as well. (He appartently kept subpages on people he doesn't like [20].)
    This honestly isn't personal any more. I don't hold any bad feelings against Amgine. However, I honestly believe now that he shouldn't be an administrator. He's too much like me--too bitter and stubborn. He may speak softly, but he carries a big stick indeed--and uses it. Primetime 17:09, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
    Please do not edit my comments, especially do not strike-out sentences or delete elements. This implies I have changed my opinion or statement, which I have not. - Amgine/talk 17:44, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
  3. Regarding Amgine's activities as an administrator for en.wikinews, I have checked and double checked the information/links below and find the statements accompanying them to be true. Amgine abuses administrative authority consistently and has done so for at least 6 months. His user page comments even show he has a troll-like connection as an administrator with the project[21] as he openly announces that he has "left the project" while being the most active in terms of conflicts and blockings; acting as a foreman or "boss" rather than in a collaborative fashion.
    • Here are the examples of administrative abuse. Amgine has had multiple long lasting disputes with many editors with Neutralizer being the most recent and intense. Amgine has not hesitated to abuse his admin powers by blocking/punishing editors like Neutralizer who disagree with him; even though wikinews guidelines clearly state that an admin should NOT block an editor with whom they are having a dispute (they should,instead, allow a different admin. to apply any necessary blocks to that editor). It now seems that the wikinews contributors can not get rid of Amgine no matter how hard they try; Amgine is able to deflect and explain away his misdeeds in a fashion that puts Shakespeare's "Artful Dodger" to shame. You may expect that he will become increasingly accusatory and employ vicious attack methods to get what he wants. Re Amgine; its a lot easier to get him in power than to get him out of power. Fair Warning !
    1. Amgine displayed his arrogance by summarily rejecting the resolution,suggestions of a mediator, Ilya (a wikinews Bureaucrat) after a mediation. "I do not accept your suggestion that I limit my administrative privilege use either to "vandalism or very clear violations of objective policies only, and to explicitly let some other admin deal with Neutralizer" or "submit a self-de-admin request." [22]
    2. Dan100's list.[23] of Amgine's "bullying and poor behaviour" (Dan100 is an admin.[24] in good standing at wikinews).
    3. Apparent vendetta blocks:
      A shows 4 of the spurious blocks Amgine levied against Neutralizer which were all later rescinded when other admins got involved [25].
      B shows the last block against Neutralizer done after Amgine and he clearly were in conflict
      02:13, 6 November 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Neutralizer" with an expiry time of 6 months
    4. Admin abuse; blocking Ed Brown for 1 month [26] 04:27, 11 December 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Edbrown05" with an expiry time of 1 month ; Amgine soon withdrew that block as he claimed a "software problem" had been the cause of the unjustified block. This time selection of 1 month for a long standing good contributor like Edbrown shows an abusive use of blocking
    5. talk page blanked and frozen by Amgine ( in the middle of ongoing disputes with this same person) [27] This is especially interesting as he did it just one hour after the talk page was made to prioritize the question of whether Amgine and another admin. are the same person.[28] As you can see below (6); Amgine has no problem accusing others of being sockpuppets but when he stands accused? Hell; just delete the evidence.
    6. More Disruption by Amgine; not assuming good faith:
      Amgine accused vonbergm of being a sockpuppet; "I do not have reason to believe you are not a sockpuppet."[29]
      Just a few days ago he accused Edbrown of being a sockpuppet[30]
    Methodology 21:06, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
    I really wish you would use my edit of this as my formatting is neater and more easily read. - Amgine/talk 03:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
    • These are excellent citations against. Can we restructure this section to have the counted votes at the top, ala for? Oh, & my other vote is "no", too, if you didn't guess.  :Grye
  4. He calls me a "repeat vandal" ([31]), so I’m going to change my vote to against. —Stephen 09:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)Stephen 12:30, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
    1. I seriously doubt that was meant for you. See this diff, it might explain more. Most likely, Amgine has had the window open in edit mode for some time, and pressed submit after you had cleaned it up. And you also see that he reverted his edit again. Jon Harald Søby 15:55, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
    It’s conceivable, but there appears to be quite a bit of time between my edit and his revert (some 15 hours). I noted the re-revert, but that doesn’t explain the remark. —Stephen 16:19, 16 December 2005 (UTC).
    It seems pretty likely that his comment was intended for User:, not you. --Connel MacKenzie T C 16:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
    Amgine says that he was not referring to me, so I am removing my against vote and will abstain in this case, leaving it to those who have more time to investigate and sort it all out. —Stephen 09:41, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
    Indeed. You tell him, Gyre. Primetime 13:20, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
  5. Opposed I am not a reglar user on englis sites. But I red and cheked against coments and am very surpise that such person has any supportr. Amgine seems like problems four sure Crink 13:23, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
  6. Opposed I have had a lot of dealings with Amgine. I say the same about him as he said about one of our good contributors at Wikinews; "I have no reason to believe he is not a troll." Neutralizer 05:27, 26 December 2005 (UTC)


My thoughts on this vote: Why is it possible to insult other users without consequences. What about Wiktionary:Wikiquette (for reminding those who have never heard no word about good behaviour). Why is it possible to create accounts only for voting... --birdy (:> )=| 13:53, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I never did learn why a person's IP address is considered private information on MediaWiki sites. But since a user's IP address is considered private, it makes it difficult to determine if the new accounts User:Primetime C, User:Methodology C and User:Grye C are (or are not) legitimate. --Connel MacKenzie T C 16:51, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
Yes, that's why I am glad now (at first I was against it) that we have some rules for voting on wikt.de (more than 150 edits in main namespace, account older than 1 month, no multiple accounts,...) (wiki.de has even strikter rules I believe), best regards, --birdy (:> )=| 17:04, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
I know that on Wikipedia, administrators can check to see a user's true IP address. Thus, PierreAbbat can check out our user accounts on Wikipedia. (We have accounts there, as well.) In any case, how do we know Connel is real? Primetime 19:17, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Birdy, whenever Wiktionarians venture over to Wikipedia, they are overwhelmed by the layers upon layers of rules. (Not true for everyone, but a general sentiment, to be sure.) There is significant resistance here to adding new rules for one-time events, like this. I expect Eclecticology may simply disregard their protests since they are not genuine contributors here.
  • Connel, I expect Eclecticology to do what he feels is the best for the wiki; not for any individual or group. Obviously there is no real consensus at this point that Amgine should be an administrator. Methodology 22:53, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
New users: (Wiktionary)

not true! User:Primetime is not a "new user"; just click on the contributions link.Please correct your false statement, Connel. Methodology 00:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

New Users: (Wikipedia)

not true! w:User:Primetime has been on wikpedia since Septmber; just click on the contributions link.Please correct your false statement, Connel. Methodology 00:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

not true! Cartman is not a "new user" on Wikipedia; just click on the contributions link.Please correct your false statement, Connel. Methodology 00:33, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Non-existant users: (WikiNews)

not true! #Cartman02au is not a "non-existant user" in wikinews; just click on the contributions link.Please correct your false statement, Connel. Methodology 00:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

(edited section)--Connel MacKenzie T C 22:05, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
--Connel MacKenzie T C 21:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
(edited again) --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:32, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
  • NOTE: Someone edited this section (of course without signing) previously. --Connel MacKenzie T C 19:32, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Note: Methodology's links are good reading, indicating that n:User:Amgine was not in the wrong, in each of those cases (contrary to User:Methodology's assertions.) Additionally, since Amgine has written approximately 1/3 of _ALL_ Wikinews articles, I would expect (by their controvercial nature) that many many more requests for arbitration would have been levied against him. He must have been doing something right to have about the same number as some newbie hoodlum. User:Methodology's lies about User:Ilya are just plain weird. --Connel MacKenzie T [[Special:Contributions/Connel

MacKenzie|C]] 19:32, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

User Methodology continues to edit the above section (signed by me.) Would another admin please block User:Methodology. The plethora of misinformation is getting tiresome. Looking at the Kate tools edit count for Amgine, it is indeed over 1/3 of the total number of entries on Wikinews. --Connel MacKenzie T C 18:42, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Connel, You said above; "Amgine has written approximately 1/3 of _ALL_ Wikinews articles." Do you not know the difference between an article and an edit entry? Almost all of Amgine's edit entries have been user talk page arguments and have contributed nothing to the articles (until a little bit today..I wonder why). A lot of his "entries" are the trollish disturbances Ilya was referring to (see below) when he said to Amgine;"Issues you've created were very destabilizing to Wikinews".
  • Please do your homework,man, and where's that apology you owe for making false accusations (see below). Methodology 00:30, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment;I expect Connel to issue an apology (for saying this above;"Methodology's lies about User:Ilya") after he reads the next to last paragraph of this link; [32]in item #10-"responses from Amgine" section. Amgine was responding to Ilya's attempt, as mediator, to put forward a resolution to help Amgine be a more constructive member of Wikinews; i.e. to reign Amgine in;
  • Amgine said to Ilya, and I quote; "I do not accept your suggestion that I limit my administrative privilege use either to "vandalism or very clear violations of objective policies only, and to explicitly let some other admin deal with Neutralizer" or "submit a self-de-admin request."- Amgine
  • Please Connel, do not be using the word lie toward me; it is your comments that are false. Amgine hasn't written any articles for months and if you are patient, I can even find a link to his declaration that he was only going to be using administrative powers; not contributing. Whoever told you Amgine writes 1/3 of all articles was either setting you up or is on drugs.Methodology 23:01, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Since Connel brought it back up, and since he seems to not want to actually read what Ilya said to Amgine; here it is;

"Amgine.You've been here long enough to know better than to do 6 month blocks without policy changes and consensus. If a person is consistently injecting bias into stories over a course of several months, you need to work to revise the blocking policy or to create other policy to deal with these situations, not block people just to have them unblocked soon afterwards. Much like Neutralizer, you accept conflict too quickly. You obviously have a problem with him, but you keep trying to justify applying the rules of the site instead of letting others in the community deal with him. If there was one rule I'd add to the blocking policy, it'd be that if you have a personal conflict with a user, don't block.

Despite my opinion that you're a great contributor to Wikinews, I have very strongly disagreed with you on a lot of things you've done here as well. I thought the Open English thing was a horrible idea, I disagreed with you on layout and other issues in the past, I've even thought that your signature and your user page were very misleading, but when the time comes for decision making, I let you walk your own path. Issues you've created were very destabilizing to Wikinews but the community continues to work with you and accept you despite that. You need to do the same with Neutralizer. Accept the fact that he is prone to creating bias. Accept the fact that he's confrontational. And accept him as you would a new user who's just not getting the NPOV: politely revert a couple of times. If he violates the 3RR, block for a day. But if you violate the 3RR on the same article too, don't be surprised if you get blocked either.

You too often try to be the sole enforcer of site policies. Perhaps you should let others do some of that, and concentrate more on the anti-vandal portion of your administrator responsibilities. I suggest that you make the commitment to self-regulate your administrator privileges to vandalism or very clear violations of objective policies only, and to explicitly let some other admin deal with Neutralizer if you run into future problems with his work. If you feel that you would be unable to self-regulate, then please submit a self-de-admin request. [edit] Closing comments I welcome your comments, below. I also urge you to accept my course of action outlined above. I again apologize for the lateness in response, and hope that you both will still allow this process to continue. -- IlyaHaykinson 19:39, 18 November 2005 (UTC)"

  • Or, maybe the real question is, why do some folks prefer to resort to name calling("vandals"[33]) and innuendo about the information providers rather than discuss the information itself? The Amgine apologists have yet to give opinions on his administrative abuses and his arrogance toward wikinews Bureaucrat, Ilya[34][35] and the statements of long time administrator Dan100[36][37]. These are facts supported by the history so why would anyone sink to trying to dirty up the messengers of such facts? Why not just assume good faith that the messengers (myself as 1) are only interested in the well being of this wiki and why not simply discuss whether it is good for this wiki to make someone an administrator who has such a history of conflict with so many reputable contributors as well as such a history of clear abuse of administrative authority? After all, the real long term effect of aquiring this person as a new administrator will be felt more by this wiki than by any of us;imo. There have been a grand total of 6 disputes on wikinews that required step 3 mediation; Amgine has been a party in 4 of them[38][39][40][41]. . Does it really matter who provides that information? Well, maybe, if someone is simply trying to sweep the information (all of #3 above) under the rug...this shift toward messenger examination looks awfully suspicious to me...this is one of Amgine's most common traits "censor the messenger and you censor the message automatically". If this is the direction this community chooses to go in, then perhaps you should have Amgine as your admin. he'd fit right in. Methodology 21:50, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

  • I am not a wikinews user. I said that. & with Amgine's adminship issues over there, I will never be.
    • If you can come up with some way for me to show that I am a "legitimate user", by all means, share.
    • Speaking of legit users, Amgine has stacks of alligations of him using multiple users, & the first moment I encountered him, I felt he had similarities to some others. & I'd never thought that before.
  • If Amgine comes in here, I'm out of everything Wiki.
  • "New User" is a relative term.

Grye 08:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

This discussion is a perfect example of what's been happening on wikinews for 6 months. When anyone speaks up against Amgine, first the sweet talk is used by Amgine and his meatpuppets to get them to change their mind [42][43]. Then the personal attacks led with his weasel wordings; "Your social behaviour suggested to me you are not very familiar with wiki communities and their collaborative/cooperative nature" on those who can not be manipulated into backing off.The personal attacks serve to discredit the information provided by those under attack (however provable facts they may be)and also to deflect the community's attention away from those facts.Then come the hypocrisies (complaining about newcomers voting against while bringing in new comers to vote "for" [44]). And all the while, Amgine's meatpuppets refuse to address the factual citations which expose how he actually operates. Absolutely amazing..he's got this locked up already. I'll be adding nothing further to this discussion...but I will say yours is collectively a shameful example of how NOT to put the wiki first. Statistically, most of you will be gone in 6 months; and this wiki will be left with Amgine and the effects of his modus operandi;Amgine Amgine[- Amgine  03:14, 9 November 2005 (UTC)].
Additional "Troll" indicators
1. Enigma = Amgine backwards

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/enigma •nig•ma (-ngm) KEY NOUN: One that is puzzling, ambiguous, or inexplicable. A perplexing speech or text; a riddle. Anything that arouses curiosity or perplexes because it is unexplained, inexplicable, or secret: conundrum, mystery, perplexity, puzzle, puzzler, riddle.

Definition sounds a lot like a definition for "troll" to me; "puzzler,perplexing,conundrum"

2. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:Amgine says “left the project”
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Special:Log/block shows the opposite; e.g,

04:27, 11 December 2005 Amgine blocked "User:Edbrown05" with an expiry time of 1 month (Sockpuppet use to attack, rfda. [45])

Methodology 14:51, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Mrsmisc blocked me for 6months on Wikinews, while HE's under vote for de-adminship, in subject matter in AMGINE's vote for de-adminship. Huh. Grye 05:53, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Comment. I resent the way my comments are used completely out of context in a vote against Amgine. I might disagree with him from time to time, but I find Amgine to be a good administrator. I won't vote since I'm not a big member of the Wiktionary community (I mainly read, and very rarely edit as an anon), but if I did vote it'd be a note of support. I also would like to very strongly point out that the quote of me in the "against" vote as listed by Neutralizer was in a comment for a request for de-admining Amgine that Neutralizer listed on Wikinews. I opposed the de-admining, but Neutralizer's comment here makes it seem like I opposed some vote for Amgine. -- IlyaHaykinson 08:07, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Comment. I echo Ilya - Neutralizer, please stop quoting me in your crusade against Amgine. I state here and now, that nothing I have said against Amgine in the past should be used to form an opinion about him as he is now. People change! Dan100 00:26, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Have a look at Amgine's unexplained and unjustified "blanket" blocks to see what you are in for with this guy. 20:15, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Amgine still lying

This being the most recent in a message to Dan100 accusing me of placing Gyre's edit.[46] 15:01, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Note; edits being deleted; Blocking offence

Connel MacKenzie recently deleted my edit that included CSpurrier in the new user group [47]. That is a blocking offense(deleting the edits of other contributors) Methodology 22:37, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Connel MacKenzie presumably deleted your addition because you edited his/her signed comment (the list), editing other users signed comments is also a blocking offense under the same rule as deleting a comment. I do not mind being on the list of new users to Wiktionary, however I am not a new user to Wikipedia as you have me listed (I have been on pedia for over a year) --Cspurrier 23:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I also find it odd Connel put me on the list. I have been editing under my user name on Wikipedia since September and anonymously since September, 2004. I have also been editing here since mid-November. Primetime 23:46, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Interesting little edit

Looks like Amgine didn't like what one of his supporters did [48](crossing out a "forged votes" accusation by Amgine); makes one wonder whether the accusation Amgine made is true or false? 15:15, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

The person who did the crossing out was GYRE. The correct link is [49] --Cspurrier 16:04, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
The "forged votes" accusation is another false accusation by Amgine(like his "sockpuppet" accusation of Vonbergm[50]. Check it out. 21:59, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
Uhm, no it isn't. Similar to the Cartman02au vote here, which is not by Cartman02au. - Amgine/talk 22:59, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
Amgine, are you still saying Vonbergm is a sockpuppet? 05:36, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Not commenting on any other issues, but I did, erroneously, cross out Amgine's statement. For the record. Grye 23:06, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Just for the record, Grye, Dan100 did not make an oppose vote here, though Neutralizer did cleverly quote him out of context in order to mislead someone into thinking he had. (Dan100 was opposed to a de-admin request against me.) - Amgine/talk 07:17, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Indeed that oppose vote was not me. That was Neutralizer being incredibly desperate. If *I* were an admin here, I'd have blocked him for a month for that little stunt. Dan100 00:24, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Dan; check out the history[51]please. 03:53, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Dan, see your user page. The pound sign was me, but in the summery I distinctly noted what I was doing, and that the [your] signature was suspect . Grye 07:50, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


Provisional decision A decision on this has been deferred for one month, during which time his edits will be monitored. In coming to this decision I have exchanged views with our other bureaucrat. The final decision will depend on the nature of his contributions during that time, and his interaction with the broader community during the same time

The unseemly dispute that arose over this is perhaps in excess of what is warranted, and I find the objections raised there to be of limited value. I find that the dispute over the article pseudologue to be a one-off situation that could happen to any one of us. I also found that Amgine's edits in recent times had a limited scope, but were essentially in accordance with acceptable activity. I am also encouraged by the names of known reliable Wiktionarians who have supported Amgine.

The entire debate that was previously here has been moved to Wiktionary:Administrators/Amgine. That archive should not be edited. Any new comments should be placed below; however, they should be limited to comments on Amgine's activities after January 2, 2006. Since there has already been ample time to comment on his behaviour before that time, any attempts to revive old arguments may be deleted. Eclecticology 11:16, 5 January 2006 (UTC) Bureaucrat.

  • Latest new additions have been poorly formatted; not even following those laid down in "A very simple example" - I was about to remove my vote. SemperBlotto 19:53, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Nomination withdrawn by nominee, 2006-01-12


Although Dangherous has been here for a very short time, and his definitions have been few, he has shown an interest in the administrative side of this Wiki. However, I'm sure he would understand if you think he needs to get bedded in first. SemperBlotto 12:32, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I accept my nomination. --Dangherous 19:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

  • For:
    1. Jon Harald Søby 16:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
    2. Redesigned the Community portal and countless other pages. Gerard Foley 01:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
    3. Doing a great job, so far! — Dvortygirl 06:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
    4. Seems good to me. —Stephen 16:21, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
    5. Had a good vandal-chasing yesterday. — Vildricianus 10:03, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
    6. All the same Kipmaster 17:28, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
    7. Tohru 05:29, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    8. --Connel MacKenzie T C 18:51, 6 February 2006 (UTC) It seems he would use admin tools well, especially with Main Page experiments. He has demonstrated a willingness to listen to the community in matters of this nature.
    9. Since I nominated him, I had better vote for him. SemperBlotto 16:17, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
    10. Seems to be a doing a very good job. Keep up the good work! --Dijan 23:40, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
    11. --Jusjih 04:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
Evidence? — Vildricianus 11:34, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
He's kidding about vandalism. --Dangherous 17:21, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Comments

Hmm, I figured I'd get back and the tools would be bestowed upon me. Alas, they're not. --Dangherous 18:58, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Decision: Patience is a virtue. :-) Accepted Eclecticology 01:40, 18 February 2006 (UTC)


Gmcfoley has also been here a very short time, and has added a significant number of definitions, mostly of Japanese words. He has shown an interest in undoing the work of vandals, especially "exic*rnt". SemperBlotto 12:32, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

I only just found this, and I am Honoured I have been nominated, especially considering how long I have been here. I would love to be an admin, it would save me from scribbling {{delete}} everywhere. I am already an admin at the simple English Wiktionary (simple:User:Gmcfoley) although I haven’t had much cause to use anything other than the delete button. If successful I promise to use my admin powers responsibly, I hope people can see from WS:ELE’s history (for 1 Jan 06) that I like to stay out of edit wars. Thanks to all those who vote (even the negative voters ☺)! Gerard Foley 01:44, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

  • For:
    1. Jon Harald Søby 16:35, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
    2. As with User:Dangherous, support for helping to keep up the WS:TOW and ws:an pages that I set up. You fancy looking after the ws:inw page too, then effectively I will have been replaced. --ex-admin part-time sockpuppetting quasi-vandal Wonderfool 13:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
    1. The way he reverted my edits to WS:ELE on the first of January 06 worries me. He had not been involved in any discussion about the matter and did not participate in any discussion about after his reverts; see User_talk:Ncik#EDIT WAR WARNING and Wiktionary_talk:Entry layout explained#The essential headings. He was not able to distinguish between edits that were an attempt at improving Wiktionary and vandalism. This could result in a situation similar to the one we currently have with Connel and me. Maybe it's only because he's fairly new to Wiktionary and doesn't quite know how things work. But in any case, I don't think he is the kind of person the English Wiktionary should currently appoint an administrator. Fairly strong opposition, I'm afraid. Ncik 23:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision:

Nomination withdrawn by nominee. Gerard Foley 18:30, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

I would like to thank SemperBlotto for the nomination, and those who voted. Gerard Foley 18:30, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Jonathan Webley

A solid contributor with a track record of good edits in areas we needed (notably birds and anatomy, among others) and some good efforts at ousting a vandal yesterday. Why not give him the buttons to do the job right? — Dvortygirl 17:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

I humbly accept my nomination. Jonathan Webley 08:54, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

  • For:
    1. Dvortygirl 17:17, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
    2. First! Let him discover admin power! :-) Kipmaster 17:29, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
    3. For. Good record; good guy. --Primetime 01:14, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
    4. Stephen 12:35, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
    5. Yep Let's have many more admins. I think SemperBlotto is being overworked in admin duties, :) --Dangherous 14:42, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    6. Tohru 05:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    7. Vildricianus 14:48, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    8. Jon Harald Søby 17:23, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
    9. For Celestianpower 20:35, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
    10. --Connel MacKenzie T C 18:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
    11. SemperBlotto 23:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Decision: Accepted. Eclecticology 01:53, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Many thanks to everybody who voted. I will use the new powers judiciously and with restraint. Jonathan Webley 09:13, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

TheDaveRoss, redux

Once upon a time, Dave Ross was nominated and supported for adminship: [52]. Then he went on a long and distant journey, far from the world of computers and Internet, and the community nearly forgot his existence. He is back, and enthusiastic as ever. He has been driving me nuts in IRC with requests to remove some of the junk he spots in RecentChanges. Could he please have his own set of buttons now? --Dvortygirl 06:28, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

I accept per Dvoty's request, however I refuse to stop bugging her in IRC, regardless of the number of buttons I have. TheDaveRoss 06:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Against
  • Comments:
    1. I've already voted for him in the past. Given this comment and TheDaveRoss' indication of acceptance above, I'm not sure a full re-vote is in order. --Connel MacKenzie T C 20:13, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision Accepted. He would have been elevated last summer but for the fact that he was not available for work. Now he is. Eclecticology 00:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)


I've noticed over the past months that there are frequently emergency requests late at night (for US timezones, that is) for Wiktionary admins, and that stewards are frequently called upon to create temporary sysops to handle vandal attacks on Wiktionary. (This is the permissions log for just one user who has been made an emergency admin for Wiktionary nearly a dozen times, most within the last three months.) I haven't been a very active contributor to Wiktionary, as I have focused on the English Wikipedia, but I am willing to serve as a sort of "emergency admin," as I tend to be available when the call goes out for admins. I have held adminship on the English Wikipedia for over six months, and have adminship on the English Wikiquote, on Meta, and on Commons. I've held a number of positions of trust within the Wikimedia community, and believe that I can be trusted to hold adminship here for emergency situations.

I understand entirely if the community is not interested in having backup admins; certainly, the vandalism can be cleaned up later, or stewards can create temporary admins as they have been doing. I believe in offering to be of help where I can, and I see this as an opportunity to help in an area where Wiktionary seems to need assistance. I promise that I will hold no hard feelings against anyone who opposes; I understand completely. (My time zone is Eastern Standard Time, my Babel is en-N, fr-1, la-1, and my account was created August 4, 2005.) Essjay 17:57, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

  • For:
    1. --Connel MacKenzie T C 18:00, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
    2. —Stephen 18:09, 7 March 2006 (UTC) Sounds good to me.
    3. Very trustworthy user. FireFox 18:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
    4. Psy guy 03:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    5. Has been great on Wikipedia, is not likely to abuse the mop -- Tawker 07:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    6. Vildricianus 10:38, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Comments
    1. I'm sure there's some guideline about users with less than fifty edits on a Wikimedia project being given adminship. The thing is though, does this user know about Wiktionary admin protocol? It could seem to the untrained eye that the user is trying to get adminship on as many projects as possible, but maybe that's just me being cynical, :). Plus, I don't recognize the name from Wikipedia, so am not going to vote for. --Dangherous 11:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I even recognized the name, while I'm virtually never at Pedia. — Vildricianus 11:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
He's the head of the CVU, I think he owns the anti-vandalism IRC channel and he's the GC who got me a flood exemption for tawkbot2, one to be trusted for sure. -- Tawker 09:57, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
  • If you don't recognize Essjay from English Wikipedia, then you obvious don't spend much time around WP! :-) But I can see what you are saying about "trying to get adminship on as many projects as possible;" however, it is hard to make that hold water. Essjay is a very active admin on all projects where he is admined. He has been an active admin on Wikt several times! I would encourage you to look at Essjay as a "Meta"-pedian or "Trans"-pedian (I don't now what would be the most appropriate way to say it) rather than just a multi-project user. I know at this point I sound like either his campaign manager or his #1 Fan, but I have worked with Essjay since I started. Therefore, I know that he has the best interests of the projects at heart. -- Psy guy 13:22, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I appreciate Psy guy and Vildricianus vouching for me, and will let thier kind words speak for me; I reiterate that my only interest is in doing what I can to help. (For those who are wondering about my work on other projects, please see my userpage on the relevant project and my admin logs; those generally point to where my attention has been focused.) Essjay 10:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision:


As per users in #wiktionary and #wiktionary-en-vandalism 's requests. I run tawkbot2 (the anti-vandalism IRC bot) and I monitor it however, the lack of admin hinders my ability to stop vandals when the bot catches them. Tawker 03:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

As I see the timezone on all of the admins, I am located in Vancouver, BC, Canada which is PST or GMT-8.

  • For:
    1. I reckon Tawker'd do a good job, yeah, and we can always do with more vandal hunters. --Wytukaze 03:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
    2. He monitors several vandal channels as well as running ours. Often busy with stopping 'bot attacks on Wikipedia, he is starting to make some entries on wikt: as well as just vandal-hunting. But he needs a delete button for when sysops are not around or awake on IRC. --Connel MacKenzie T C 04:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
    3. Jonathan Webley 09:12, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
    4. —Stephen 10:48, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
    5. He's very new, but I've supported even newer people in the past. Gerard Foley 03:38, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
    6. He looks fine to me despite being very new. Editing Wiktionary is easier than Wikipedia, so his candidacy should not be a big deal.--Jusjih 04:17, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
    7. Give 'em hell with that bot. — Vildricianus 10:35, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
    8. \Mike 15:25, 19 February 2006 (UTC) I have faith in Tawkerminator ;)
    9. Dvortygirl 20:06, 19 February 2006 (UTC) Arrived recently, but unpacked a bot from Wikipedia experience and went straight to work swatting vandals and removing worthless edits. Many of my deletions since then were things the bot flagged.
    10. Jon Harald Søby 11:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
    11. GerardM 07:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
    12. --Dijan 07:28, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
    13. SemperBlotto 08:22, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
    14. Psy guy 03:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
    1. Has had a user account for a week. Should not be made an administrator at the current stage. Ncik 19:42, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't blame you, I am essentially an infant in acount wiki time and you do have some valid concerns. I was going to wait a while before filing this RfA but I was getting tired of hearing "we need to give him a proper rollback botton" followed by multiple bot attacks on Wikipedia and I've heard Wikinews was hit and I was a bit worried Wiktionary would be next. 50 million warning messages on a monitor bot doesn't do Wiktionary any good, the only way to stop is a block and revert after the block. Thanks for voting though, democracy is a great thing! Tawker 05:40, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision: No apparent problems; decision deferred until he has been here at least 30 days. Eclecticology 00:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I was temp sysop'd today Anthere (steward) mostly due to the fact that we had a repeat repeat vandal and nobody else was around to do it. Noting the fact that Stewards shouldn't override bcrats on projects that have bcrats I requested the steward provided promotion be removed pending Eclecticology to do it himself. -- Tawker 01:09, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


He may aswell have the extra tools. Has been at Wiktionary longer than me, and has editted more than most. Should be no problem bestowing adminship upon him. --Dangherous 11:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

With gratitude, I accept my nomination. --Dijan 21:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
  • For
    1. --Dangherous 11:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
    2. Jon Harald Søby 11:40, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
    3. He’s been here a long time and does excellent work. —Stephen 12:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
    4. Vildricianus 16:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
    5. --Connel MacKenzie T C 21:45, 21 February 2006 (UTC) Having another sysop that knows five languages is very helpful.
    6. Tawker 01:56, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
    7. --Jusjih 03:50, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
    8. --Maja 00:06, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
    9. --Dcabrilo 07:22, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
    10. --Dvortygirl 04:08, 5 March 2006 (UTC) Always glad to have more help. Especially diligent, multi-lingual help who sticks around for awhile.
    11. Ncik 02:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
    12. --Connel MacKenzie T C 02:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
    13. --Connel MacKenzie T C 02:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC) TheDaveRoss 18:51, 7 March 2006 (UTC) (I stole one of Connel's spots, just realized I hadn't voted!)
    14. --Connel MacKenzie T C 02:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC) (Yes the multiple votes are partly humorous, partly regarding tonight's vandalism flurry.)
    15. --Connel MacKenzie T C 02:42, 6 March 2006 (UTC) (Dijan has a timezone advantage as well.)
    16. GerardM 07:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
    17. SemperBlotto 08:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Against
  1. I always thought he was quite lazy, and ignoring of usual stylings. Perhaps has got better. If he has got better, move this vote to For. --ex-admin part-time sockpuppetting quasi-vandal Wonderfool 17:11, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Comments


A fervent contributor, almost from day one. Now has upwards of 5000 article space edits, alone.

  • Accept:: Affirmative. Thanks to all of you for these kind words. — Vildricianus 21:29, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
  • For:
    1. Dvortygirl 21:18, 1 April 2006 (UTC) Despite lacking buttons, he helped me clean up a mess of page-blanking vandalism back in January when he was just starting out. Insightful, thoroughgoing, conscientious, and enthusiastic. I'm honored to nominate him.
    2. Celestianpower 21:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC) What a fantastic, helpful, vivacious guy. Have the buttons! Celestianpower 21:20, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
    3. SemperBlotto 21:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC) Of course.
    4. --birdy, das weltraumvogi (:> )=| 21:23, 1 April 2006 (UTC) yessss!
    5. Kipmaster 21:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC) so that he can block himself when he needs wikiholidays.
    6. per nom -- Tawker 21:26, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
    7. Yes. —Stephen 21:28, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
    8. 当然。-- Tohru 04:12, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
    9. He has diplomacy skills that I lack. --Connel MacKenzie T C 05:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
    10. --Dijan 06:04, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
    11. Ncik 13:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    12. --Pill δ 15:47, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    13. Jon Harald Søby 15:50, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    14. GerardM 16:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Comments:
Thanks for the votes! — Vildricianus 09:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


Pete has been busy with improving Wiktionary long enough now, making good contributions, cleaning up and spotting tosh entries. A set of buttons will come in handy for him in various ways.

  • Accept: There have been times when it would have been nice to block a vandal or delete nonesense myself... Oh, and my timezone is PST (US), though this has little to do with when I am active. --EncycloPetey 12:50, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Comments: I quite agree with all the comments above. Decision below <drumroll> ... — Paul G 15:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
    In the immortal words of Bilbo Baggins, "Thag you very buch." --EncycloPetey 09:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision: Approved - I have made EncycloPetey an administrator. — Paul G 15:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


Also known as Kipcool. Very active Wiktionarian. Spends a good deal of time here, despite his duties in the French club. Helps out with formatting, checks and adds French and keeps a keen eye on Recent changes.

  • Against:
  • Comments:
    Absolutely no hesitation here. Kipmaster is a bureaucrat on the French Wiktionary, a talented programmer, and an all-round gentle, thoughtful, and helpful soul. I had the pleasure of spending two weeks with him in January, and I can say with certainty that I'd trust him with the keys to my home--or to Wiktionary--in a heartbeat. --Dvortygirl 06:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision: Approved - Kipmaster is now an administrator. — Paul G 15:40, 3 May 2006 (UTC)


I started editing Wiktionary on 26 March 2005 and have edited 370 times. As I see too many uncategorized pages, I am categorizing them. As a native Chinese speaker, I have added and checked many Chinese translations here. I use both traditional and simplified Chinese. I also use Hanyu Pinyin.

As I have found so many broken links here and I am an administrator at Chinese Wikipedia, Chinese Wiktionary, Chinese Wikisource, English Wikisource, and multilingual Wikisource (five Wiki sites), I would like to apply for adminship here to serve the community better based on my experience as an admin at these sites. I will continue my good works as well.

My language Babel is: zh-TW, zh-CN-3, en-3, fr-1, ja-0, ko-0. (See also additional note below.)

My time zone is American Eastern Time, i.e., EST/EDT: UTC-5/UTC-4 depending on the season.--Jusjih 16:25, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Additional note: Even though I do not really understand Japanese or Korean language, I can read some Japanese kanji and Korean hanja based on Chinese hanzi. For English, I normally use American English (en-US). For French, I use French French (fr-FR) although not yet fluent.--Jusjih 14:07, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

  • For:
  1. Yes. —Stephen 21:36, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
  2. --Connel MacKenzie T C 20:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
  3. -- Tawker 00:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  4. --SemperBlotto 16:11, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  5. --Shibo77 15:44, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
  6. Aye. Jonathan Webley 16:06, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
  7. Wow! Psy guy 18:33, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
  8. --Dijan 20:55, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
  9. Vildricianus 13:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Comments: Jusjih makes many valuable contributions to the Chinese content of Wiktionary. — Paul G 15:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision: Approved and made an administrator. — Paul G 15:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Psy guy

I humbly request for Wiktionary administrator rights. While I am not heavily involved in article space contributions, I have drafted several core policies that govern all WikiProjects including Wiktionary:Assume good faith, Wiktionary:Civility, Wiktionary:No personal attacks, and Wiktionary:Vandalism.

Monitoring vandalism and organizing methods of dealing with vandalism on Wiktionary is my own pet project. I am a member of the Counter Vandalism Unit. I am a channel staffer at #vandalism-en-wt (the Wiktionary vandalism channel) and #vandalism-meta (the Meta vandalism channel). For the full picture, I am an op in #vandalism-en-wp (the WP channel). In addition to User:Tawker’s bots, I frequently watch for vandalism with CDVF. In addition to just watching for vandalism, I have attempted to organize and make others aware of several tools for which to fight vandalism (e.g., IRC channels, test templates, spam templates).

I feel that admin rights would assist me in the course of my work and help me to better serve the community. I am well aware of how to use admin rights, for I am an administrator on English Wikipedia.

Psy guy 22:36, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

  • For:
  1. I see no problems -- Tawker 01:59, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
  2. Support. Good guy. --Rory096 02:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
  3. Support.--Jusjih 09:44, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  4. Yes. —Stephen 09:49, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
  5. --Connel MacKenzie T C 20:57, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
  6. -- Tawker 00:34, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  7. Support --Expurgator t(c) 09:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  8. --SemperBlotto 16:12, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
  9. Jon Harald Søby 18:00, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
  10. Vildricianus 13:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Comments:
    • I am at UTC - 4 hours (US Eastern Daylight Savings Time)
  • Decision: Psy guy is clearly committed to Wiktionary. Sysop request approved. — Paul G 08:57, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Aulis Eskola

I am experienced admin from Finnish wikipedia / wiktionary and old user of this English wiki - see my user page and my contributions here. I want to help with blocking clear vandalism, it is a big problem here. In Finnish wiktionary ("wikisanakirja" as we call it) I work also with practices and formats but here I want to help only with some details (mainly because of my weak English skills) and for blocking vandals. I think you need admins from different languages because here are so many entries typical English speaking person can't see is it vandalism or a real fact. Please, ask Finnish wiki-enthusiasts if you don't know me and relay on me :) --Aulis Eskola 18:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Finnish statistics - 3rd after bots: [53]

  • For
    1. - That seems to be a goood idea. SemperBlotto 13:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    2. —Stephen 21:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC). Could have used his help with the recent Finnish glipsua vandalism.
    3. I'm guessing the timezone is UTC+2, therefore, YES. --Connel MacKenzie T C 18:28, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
    4. Aye. Jonathan Webley 20:03, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
    5. Kyllä. \Mike 09:00, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
    6. Why not. — Vildricianus 09:14, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
    7. Should boe okay. --Dangherous 16:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
    8. --Rory096 02:10, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
    9. Seeing how we have a lot of Finnish words that translator.com is brutally doing for me, youd' be great! -- Tawker 07:07, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
    10. --Jusjih 16:05, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
    11. Support - although I'll have to remind myself that you and User:Jyril are different users. --Expurgator t(c) 09:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
    12. --Dvortygirl 05:20, 26 April 2006 (UTC) Always glad for more help.
  • Against
  • Comments

Yes, our timezone in Finland is UTC+2 (East European Time). Despite of that we feel being part of "west world" ;) --Aulis Eskola 17:19, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Decision I think Aulis would be an asset for the reasons described above. Request approved. — Paul G 09:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


I know this is probably discouraged and bad form, but I nominate myself as an Administrator here on the English Wiktionary. I've been here for a while (3-or-so months?) and am (as far as I know) the only Briton to be handling pronunciation (see my contributions). I really enjoy working on this project, especially the much friendlier atmosphere than the English Wikipedia, where I'm an admin already (and have been for yonks).

The reason for requesting the Adminship status is, for the most part, a selfish one: I miss the delete button. It's quite often I come across complete rubbish (you know the sort: random strings of letters, attack pages, strings of expletives). Then, on reaching for delete, I find it not there. I have to pester an Admin in the IRC channel to delete it for me.

So, in conclusion, I feel that I have both had enough experience here on Wiktionary and experience at using the powers on other projects to make me becoming an Administrator beneficial to the project, and my sanity. Thank you for listening. Regards, --Celestianpower háblame 11:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Acceptance of nomination: Clearly, I accept :). --Celestianpower háblame 11:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Appendum: I live in GMT/BST (the UK) and my babel is en, es-2, fr-1. --Celestianpower háblame 15:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • For
    1. Jon Harald Søby 15:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
    2. Does a yeoman's work on Wikipedia, no doubt the tools will help him do the same here. BD2412 T 16:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
    3. I'm certain WT will outbalance WP for him once he gets the tools. Which is a good thing, both for us, given his potential as UK pronunciator, and for him, as WT is simply more fun than WP :-) —Vildricianus 19:21, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
    4. Someone with a [delete] button on both projects? Maybe that Traswiki log will get cleared, after all! --Connel MacKenzie T C 06:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
    5. - Jonathan Webley 11:45, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Against
  • Neutral
  • Comments
  1. It does indeed look like Celestianpower is the only person inputting audio pronunciations, which is great (that he is inputting them, not that he is the only one!) — Paul G 07:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision Made an administrator on 2006-05-23 — Paul G 07:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


Thorough contributor making Old English a bit more accessible to me (and to others probably as well), and his English contributions are equally interesting. I have no doubt that he'll make a very good and reliable sysop.

  • Accept: Thank you, I'm honoured. This site is a project I really believe in, and if I'm appointed I'll certainly do my bit to help it go from strength to strength. I am not a technical genius by any means; my strengths are in writing concise definitions, cleaning up articles, and etymologies. It would be nice not to have to scrawl {delete} quite so often. I live on GMT. Widsith 13:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
  • For:
    1. —Vildricianus 13:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
    2. —Stephen 13:54, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
    3. addicted enough :-) Kipmaster 14:07, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
    4. Definitely. Jonathan Webley 06:46, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
    5. Should be OK. And after Widsith we should have a break from nomming sysops (5 new ones in a month should cover us) for a while (maybe a month or so) before nominating others. --Dangherous 12:57, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
      Why? If a user can be trusted not to misuse the admin tools, it benefits no one for that user to be denied those tools. BD2412 T 16:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
      True, I dunno want I meant when I said that. --Dangherous 12:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
    6. --Jusjih 15:30, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
    7. --EncycloPetey 15:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
    8. Step right up. --Dvortygirl 17:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
    9. Dijan 14:13, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
    10. \Mike 12:26, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
    11. Of course. SemperBlotto 14:13, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
    12. Jon Harald Søby 15:23, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
    13. BD2412 T 16:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
    14. Not sure what I was thinking of, now. Support. --Connel MacKenzie T C 06:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Neutral:
  • Comments:
  1. Given Widsith's wealth and quality of contributions, I had somehow managed to convince myself that he was an administrator already! Well, we'll have to do something about that, won't we?
  • Decision: Approved 2006-05-23 — Paul G 07:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Andrew massyn

Help with today's attack is greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the nomination. Please bear in mind the following before making a decision.
  • I am a technical ignoramus.
  • My time zone is UTC + 2 but SB always seems to be on when I am, and boy! is he is quick on the buttons!
  • I am a native speaker of English and fluent in Afrikaans.
  • Because of South Afrca's unbelivably high telephone rates I tend to be active on weekends only. Therefore my usefulness might not be as great as anticipated.

However, that being said, I am honoured by your votes of confidence, and will accept if you agree. Sincerely Andrew massyn 08:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Decision: I'm less familiar with Andrew's work, but given the overwhelming support, I hereby make him an administrator on 2006-05-23 — Paul G 07:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


Thank you. If I am approved, I would happily accept nomination and would welcome the accompanying single-click vandal defense feature. Per EC's request for timezone declarations, mine is UTC-8. Rodasmith 01:56, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Help with today's attack is greatly appreciated.

  • Decision: Made an administrator on 2006-05-23 — Paul G 07:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)


I hereby request that Kappa receive administrator rights. His record speaks for itself (particularly his Korean contributions). Cheers! BD2412 T 05:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Accept:
I accept the nomination with gratitude. If I do receive admin rights I doubt if I'll be using them very much, but I promise to spend more time on general chores as I know the other admins do. Kappa 23:49, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
  • For:
    1. Support - Rod (A. Smith) 06:00, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    2. --Celestianpower háblame 11:58, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    3. Yes. Andrew massyn 12:05, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    4. Aye. Jonathan Webley 12:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
    5. Support - very helpful. --Connel MacKenzie T C 16:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC) (Please add Babel and timezone.)
    6. Support per nomination. :-) BD2412 T 04:30, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
    7. —Stephen 07:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
    8. Should be OK. Btw, BD2412, I bet £50 you'll be up here next for nomination --Dangherous 13:27, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
    9. Widsith 13:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
    10. Welcome to the cabal. — Vildricianus 21:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
    11. Kipmaster 06:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    12. Of course. SemperBlotto 07:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    13. Support after the nominee has accepted the nomination.--Jusjih 05:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    14. support; sorry I haven't been more attentive to this page. --EncycloPetey 18:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Neutral:
  • Comments:

Has the nominee accepted the nomination yet? I will support after the nominee's willingness is shown.--Jusjih 20:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Kappa does things pretty similar to Wonderfool, back in the latter's heyday. Which is a good thing. --Newnoise (Shout louder) 21:22, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, in my opinion, most everything Kappa does is a Good ThingTM. :-D BD2412 T 17:35, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision: Made a sysop today. — Paul G 20:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


I don't think I need to introduce this one. If you don't know him, then you clearly don't follow the RFD or RFV pages. Lots of good contribs, and a good sense for initiative. Also, he's the one responsible for the absolutely mental {{cattag}} lunacy. Another Good User™.

  • Accept:
    Davilla 16:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Support:
    1. I want £50 from Dangherous. — Vildricianus 21:45, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Boy, I damn near split my sides! BD2412 T 00:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
        • You can get your £50 when you come to Wales to claim it. --Dangherous 08:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
          • A £200 Brussels to Cardiff flight probably won't cover that! — Vildricianus 12:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    2. --Connel MacKenzie T C 00:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC) (Please enable "e-mail this user" link and indicate timezone)
    3. Yes, per nom. BD2412 T 00:51, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    4. —Stephen 01:49, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    5. Aye. Jonathan Webley 06:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    6. ++ Rod (A. Smith) 06:56, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    7. How funny, I always thought he was a she. Widsith 07:30, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    8. Very yes. Andrew massyn
    9. Of course. SemperBlotto 07:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
    10. Hurray, less admin work for us! Keep. --Dangherous 08:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
      Work?? Davilla 16:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
      Yes, work. There is a fair amount of work cleaning this website. Unpaid work too, sadly (we don't get paid, contrary to popular belief). Knowing this maybe you would like to refuse the nomination? --Dangherous 18:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
      Which has absolutely nothing to do with the sysop status. Sysops just push a button once in a while, is all. Anyone can help doing the real work. — Vildricianus 19:07, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
    11. --Dijan 19:06, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
    12. --Jusjih 23:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
    13. Did I vote not? Ok, but should learn French! Kipmaster 13:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
      Are there not already enough Spanish cows on the French countryside? :-/ Davilla 16:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
    14. Extreme "Distinct lack of my vote thusfar" support. My profuse apologies. — Celestianpower háblame 15:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
    15. --EncycloPetey 18:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Against:
  • Comments:
  • Which account are we voting for actually? If it is the one in all the fancy scripts, then I withdraw my support, for the sole reason that the scripts are too fancy. --Dangherous 14:01, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
    Wow, I didn't expect such a strong reaction. I know you didn't mean it personally, but it's difficult not to take that way. The partial differential is my solution to a lower-case d, and the others are presumably not that fancy considering they're all Greek, including capital pi, otherwise known as the product symbol. Davilla 15:38, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
    I can't easily enter these characters in the urlbar or anywhere else, though. — Vildricianus 15:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
    I know that I never expected to be sending out abuse reports to network administrators, on networks I'd never even visited. But I have - and the mere fact that my e-mail address does not have "@wiktionary.org" in it makes them suspicious. I can't imagine what the typical reaction would be, to an encoded greek address. I too would like further clarification. --Connel MacKenzie T C 15:58, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision: Sysopized today (and the form didn't even spit the "fancy scripts" back at me). :) — Paul G 20:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Perhaps the form didn't, but anyone who can't read it will. As admins are considered to be "contact points" for newcomers, I find our newest sysop's name highly questionable, because not really user friendly. Actually, he's still listed on the first page of the new users log, and already a sysop! Are we sure he's the same as User:Davilla? — Vildricianus 20:17, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
      • Yes, it's sure: [54]. Though, I agree with you on the fancy script stuff. Kipmaster 12:40, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
        • Come to think of it, I think Paul sysopized the wrong username. — Vildricianus 12:46, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Same, as Kipmaster pointed out. Davilla 16:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


A great little editor. Pretty new, but is being very active with everything. Give him/her the extra tools. --Wonderfool 12:51, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

  • for:
  1. --Wonderfool 12:51, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
  2. Agreed. —Stephen 13:25, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
  3. Jon Harald Søby 13:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
  4. --Connel MacKenzie 21:55, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
  5. --Definitely. I thought Stranger might be sysop material from the start. Very conscientious, and conscious of policy, accessibility, and all sorts of helpful things. --Dvortygirl 09:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
  6. --\Mike 11:57, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
  • against:
  • decision:
  • There is ample support for Stranger to be made admio. I understand that he may have health reasons for not accepting the role. If he indicates willingness to accept the position, I will be happy to take the necessary steps. Eclecticology 08:38, 19 December 2005 (UTC)


Nominating myself. Ncik 00:23, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Although my self-nomination has been up here for quite awhile, and surely many people have taken notice of it, I only just received my first two votes. As you guys know, I've been around for nearly a year now and am a frequent contributor always trying make improvements to Wiktionary (quite often not considered as such, but nevermind). I would like to become an admin to be able to make changes to protected pages like the main page, who definitely needs an overhaul, and other special pages, and to find out what other magic tools an admin has at his disposal. The lack of votes might indicate that on the one hand people are afraid I might abuse any admin-powers given to me but on the other hand can't get themselves to vote no because they don't want to disgruntle a fellow Wiktionarian. Anyway, I'm not going to start blocking pages or people for any other reason than vandalism. Hope you trust me; and please vote. Ncik 02:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Here is another thing I always wanted to do, but don't seem to be capable of as a non-admin: Getting rid of most of the preloaded templates in the table which is being displayed when a search fails. Ncik 23:55, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  • for: And actually voting for myself. Ncik 03:46, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
  1. He'll do --Wonderfool 22:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
  • against:
  1. Started edit war at Wiktionary:Entry layout explained on Jan 1st 2006, ignoring requests to discuss the issue. Gerard Foley 23:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
    What I think about this can be found here. So far I've got the backing of SemperBlotto for one of my points and no opposition. The other one was the old POS issue, which I'm aware doesn't (yet) have community backing. Ncik 03:14, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
  2. Doesn't really explain his opinions. It's important for someone so powerful to have a well-reasoned justification for their actions. --Primetime 18:15, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
  3. --Connel MacKenzie T C 06:01, 18 January 2006 (UTC) The items he "wants" admin privs for he could easily address on those page's talk pages. But communication prior to action is supposed to be the MO for a sysop. I don't recall ever seeing User:Ncik ask first. With a history of goading other sysops I have tremendous doubts that he is sincere about not abusing sysop powers in an edit war. I was falsely accused of just that, in one User:Ncik skirmish last year; at the time, his actions were much worse, IMHO. I have not seen evidence of any attitude improvement over time.

This has been here for over a month. How long do these things last? Gerard Foley 00:58, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Good point; really two months. Eclecticology 02:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Decision Denied. There has been no significant support for this nomination. Perhaps if he tries again after a wait of three months ... Eclecticology 02:10, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Requests for removal of adminship

Petruk, Fonzy

I would like to propose that Petruk and Fonzy be removed from being administrators. Neither has made a single edit in over a year. Eclecticology 04:42, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • I concur. (assuming this is a vote of some description...) - TheDaveRoss 05:12, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • This certainly seems reasonable. I assume that the person doing the desysopping will leave a clear note to those users explaining what happened and how to regain their sysop status. Jun-Dai 20:42, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Good point. Stewards will need to do the desysopping, but I accept responsibility for leaving the notes. Eclecticology 00:28, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      The notices have been left. Eclecticology 02:31, 2005 Jun 9 (UTC)
  • I oppose this de-adminship request, being a sysop is not a privilege. 24 21:04, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Revoking people's rights to use the administrator tools should be done for reasons better than "Xe hasn't done much editing recently.". I find no evidence that these people should not continue to be entrusted with these tools, when and if they choose to edit. Meta's policy on administratorship is a bad idea for all of the other projects, and should be firmly ejected when people try to bring it in, as here. Wikipedia says "Throughout the history of the project, there has been a policy that users may have their adminship removed only in cases of clear abuse.". Oppose. Uncle G 00:53, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • How do you propose knowing if we'll ever see these people again? Being an admin is for the purpose of doing work. These guys aren't doing anything at all. Eclecticology 07:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Why do you care so much about knowing that in the first place? It's not as though we were running out of a limited number of little pink sysop flags to place on user accounts. Being an admin means that the community trusts one to use administrative tools. The simple act of not editing is not enough to revoke that trust. Uncle G 22:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Actually, there are some common sense security reasons. You have pointed out that we elect sysops on a basis of trust, which means that the tools they have require a trustworthy operator. The longer an account stagnates the more likely it is to be compromised, and those tools misused. What I don't see is a good reason to keep them flagged as such. They aren't presently of any benefit to the community, and if they ever chose to return, they could be voted back in by what will then be a different community than they were voted in by initially. Do I think it is a matter of great importance that they be kept or removed? No. I do however see the logic of removal more so than the logic of sustainance. - TheDaveRoss 22:14, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • The longer an account stagnates the more likely it is to be compromised — False. An inactive account is no more likely to be compromised than an active one. Indeed, inactive accounts are less likely to be compromised than active ones (passwords are not being sent to servers over interceptable HTTP connections on a regular basis, and cookies are not being used to be left lying around, for example). Your account is at more risk of being compromised than these two accounts are. Uncle G 20:43, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Yes, their sysophood should be removed. It's no great trouble to reverse the decision if they ever come out of prison (or wherever they are). SemperBlotto 22:18, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
      • Why should a prison record affect one's sysop status? Not that I'm worried...much. But law is arbitrary; almost as arbitrary as its application. Maybe the UK has reasonable laws, but we don't. Who gets arrested for an offense is partly random, partly a question of amassed wealth, here. The rules of the Wiktionary community should not be linked in any way to unrelated political/legal entities.
      • With all that said, I think a one-year-without-contributions limit is reasonable, provided there is a mechanism for quick reinstatement upon return. --Connel MacKenzie 22:16, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • One further note: User:Fonzy announced his "retirement" on w:User:Fonzy on 09 May 2004, I think it is safe to assume that he has no intention of returning. - TheDaveRoss


Both individuals were desysopped without prejudice on 2005-07-21


  • Sjc Admin as of 2003-03-17, no edits since 2004-09-11

I move to desysop Sjc due to his/her inactivity. --Stranger 23:10, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

User:Sjc has not edited here in more than a year, although he continues to be active in Wikipedia. I am proposing that he be dropped from the list of adninistrators for this project. To this end I have contacted him via Wikipedia, and he has responded on my Wikipedia talk page that he consents to this since he felt that he was only here in the early days to help when we weren't that many. Eclecticology 00:48, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

  • Could you provide links to the conversations?

Filed. — Vildricianus 14:13, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Removed. Jon Harald Søby 14:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

PierreAbbat, Ortonmc, Kevin Rector

PierreAbbat, Ortonmc, and Kevin Rector have no activities here for more than 6 months, so I would like to propose desysoping them.--Jusjih 04:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the minimum was one year of inactivity, before such a nomination could begin. --Connel MacKenzie T C 05:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I concur with at least a one year inactivity, I myself have gone inactive for 6 months and I have only been here a year. I am also ambivalent to desysopping, I am not sure there is any tangible benefit to keeping or losing them, they just sit there mostly. - TheDaveRoss 05:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Surely at least a year, probably more. Desysopping could help keeping an overview on who's really here and who's not, but there shouldn't be a hurry I guess. — Vildricianus 09:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Kevin Rector has no activity after 20 June 2005. PierreAbbat is no longer active for more than one year. Shall we start proceeding to desysop them?--Jusjih 00:37, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
As long as tradition is followed: The de-sysoping process itself should take 1/2 to two years. And the process can be stopped immediately by that sysop's return. And they can be reinstated automatically if they return later. --Connel MacKenzie T C 00:53, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Why don't you ask them on their Wikipedia pages? — Vildricianus 15:21, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
I have asked PierreAbbat here with no response. I just asked w:User:PierreAbbat pending response. I have asked w:User:Kevin Rector with no response. These two admins here have no activity for at least one year. I just asked Ortonmc (no activity after September 2005) and found that w:User:Ortonmc has had no activity after June 2005.--Jusjih 07:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
You may have noticed this. As you can see, one year is probably even too short. I don't think we should consider any desysopping for inactivity for less than two years. — Vildricianus 16:16, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Sjc has been desysoped for no activity since 2004-09-11. Less than two years have passed. Wiktionary:Administrators/Former does not specify how long is too long. Shall we hold a vote to decide how long is too long?--Jusjih 23:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm wondering why you are so keen on desysopping them. We could vote if you really wanted to, though, but I think there'll be a lack of interest here. Why not just wait? — Vildricianus 16:35, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
As an admin using the same username at seven Wiki sites, I have seen some sites pointing out that inactive admins may pose security concerns should someone else gets their passwords and logs in as an imposter to vandalize. As an admin at Wikimedia Commons and Chinese Wikipedia, I know their policies to desysop for inactivity for more than 6 months.--Jusjih 00:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
That could happen to active accounts as well (if it could happen at all). There are enough sysops here to spot malicious account takeovers. — Vildricianus 18:48, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I am back Kevin Rector 18:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
User:PierreAbbat put in an appearance earlier this month. — Dvortygirl 00:50, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


NOTE: Account already desysopped, no more votes necessary.

Vote (required by meta:) for de-sysopping User:Dangherous, as per his deletion of Wiktionary:Main Page (à la Wonderfool) with the comment "Going out with a bang." --Connel MacKenzie 21:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Support the desysopping
    1. --Connel MacKenzie 21:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
    2. -- (Looks like he WAS Wonderfool - they both had welsh connections) SemperBlotto 21:24, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
    3. Sigh.... \Mike 06:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
    4. I also want CheckUser reports and if positive, contacting of WF's school/whatever. — Vildricianus 21:40, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
      • Didn't he graduate in June? --Connel MacKenzie 21:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
        • That might explain it. ISP then. Anyway this illustrates why we need our own checkusers. — Vildricianus 21:57, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
    5. —Stephen 15:57, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    6. --Dijan 17:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
    7. User claims to have "resigned" in his last edit. [56] bd2412 T 16:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
    8. Jokes are not funny, we need some CU's, badly.... -- Tawker 02:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Oppose the desysopping
  • Comments:
    1. I request postponing this vote until (a) User:Dangherous replies, (b) the user makes an obviously bad faith edit, or (c) one week passes from initial contact with the user regarding this nomination. Rod (A. Smith) 23:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC) I now see the apparently bad faith edit in the deletion log. I had only viewed the page history to find a blanking (wiping text from within the page) and didn't see his complete main page deletion. Request for postponement withdrawn. Rod (A. Smith) 23:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
    2. I'm not sure what I botched up on the meta: request, but perhaps if a bureaucrat reiterated the request on meta (Requests for permission page) the request might be taken seriously, before WF returns. I wonder why he didn't aim for the one-year anniversary? --Connel MacKenzie 04:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
    3. Do we need to re-block AOL? — Vildricianus 22:05, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Action: A Developer tweaked the database directly to remove his sysop flag ~21:50 UTC, August 7th, after the pointed, prolonged absence of any stewards (apparently all on airplanes returning from WikiMania: queue up the "Airline Steward/Airline Stewardess" jokes of your choice.) A few minutes later, several stewards appeared, amongst much confusion (as he was no longer appearing on Special:Userlist/sysops. --Connel MacKenzie 00:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Connel MacKenzie

  1. For the record, oppose desysoping (not that this would go anywhere anyway). bd2412 T 23:16, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  2. oppose - There are few here who work as hard for Wiktionary, there are better ways to resolve the disagreements you and Connel have than this. - TheDaveRoss 23:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC) screw it, anarchy in the UK!
  3. Oppose. If fault were found, this punishment would be too harsh. DAVilla 06:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  4. Oppose. The whole issue is petty, let's move on. Jonathan Webley 06:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  5. Oppose for all the above reasons. --Enginear 23:09, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
  6. Oppose. —Stephen 01:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  7. Oppose --Versageek 02:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  8. Oppose --Dijan 04:38, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  9. Oppose. A block, even if made in error, is not sufficient grounds. --Dvortygirl 04:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
    • It is however not the first time that I was unjustly blocked by Connel. Ncik 23:42, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
  10. Oppose. All I see is a block made to get someone's attention. 15 minutes is nothing. Jon Harald Søby 08:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  11. Oppose -- Agree with all above. \Mike 10:02, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
  12. Strong Oppose - enough said. Gimmie a break -- Tawker 06:16, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
  13. Strong Oppose - revoke Connel's rights? You'll need to work a lot harder than spitting out one sentence to convince anyone to do that. He's one of the most valuable contributors, particularly as an admin. Jun-Dai 07:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
  14. Oppose. I don't see any decent cause here. Werdna 07:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
  15. Oppose. Robert Ullmann 18:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


  • Denied. He'll just have to stay and work hard a little longer. —Dvortygirl 05:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


Ortonmc recently told me of no more interest keeping his/her adminship here after long inactivity.--Jusjih 00:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

User:Ortonmc for desysop

Support desysoping

  1. Symbol support vote.svg Support as proposer.msh210 18:18, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  2. Symbol support vote.svg Support DCDuring TALK 18:49, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  3. Symbol support vote.svg Support SemperBlotto 18:51, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  4. Symbol support vote.svg Support. --Duncan 22:15, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  5. Symbol support vote.svg Support Bequw¢τ 22:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  6. Symbol support vote.svg SupportRuakhTALK 23:46, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
  7. Symbol support vote.svg Support EncycloPetey 02:20, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  8. Symbol support vote.svg Support —Stephen 03:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  9. Symbol support vote.svg Support Equinox 09:30, 25 June 2009 (UTC) A no-brainer, since he requested it himself!
  10. Symbol support vote.svg Support due to the administrator’s uncoerced consent to the change.  (u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 11:39, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
  11. Symbol support vote.svg Support per his own statement to that effect. bd2412 T 01:38, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
  12. Symbol support vote.svg Support 50 Xylophone Players talk 20:19, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
  13. Symbol support vote.svg Support Neskaya kanetsv 21:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC) After all, if he ever wants it back I'm sure that he'd have no trouble passing a vote. --Neskaya kanetsv 21:42, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
    Ortonmc has been a sysop already, and this desysop is without prejudice. The only reason I see for discussion before resysoping is to ensure that user really is Ortonmc and not someone who's gained access to his account. (The latter is unlikely anyway, and) I'm not sure that that would require a vote. (No harm in having one, though (unless by that point in time we've "progressed" to WP-style admin votes, in which case avoidance of one will be a good idea).) But we can cross that bridge if and when.​—msh210 17:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
  14. Symbol support vote.svg Supportblurpeace ( t / c ) 05:55, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  15. Symbol support vote.svg Support Although I am new here and not sure my vote will count, I do not believe that Ortonmc would be a positive for the project with the sysop bit if he hasn't edited in over 2 years. Shappy 20:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
  16. Symbol support vote.svg Support Diuturno 07:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Oppose desysoping



  • The community has agreed to desysop Ortonmc without prejudice. I will bring this to m:SRP.​—msh210 15:52, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
    • This has been effected.​—msh210 16:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)