討

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See also: 讨
討 U+8A0E, 討
CJK UNIFIED IDEOGRAPH-8A0E
← 訍
[U+8A0D] 		CJK Unified Ideographs 訏 →
[U+8A0F]

Translingual[edit]

Stroke order
10 strokes

Han character[edit]

討 (radical 149, 言+3, 10 strokes, cangjie input 卜口木戈 (YRDI), four-corner 04600, composition ⿰訁寸)

Derived characters[edit]

References[edit]

  • KangXi: page 1147, character 16
  • Dai Kanwa Jiten: character 35231
  • Dae Jaweon: page 1614, character 11
  • Hanyu Da Zidian (first edition): volume 6, page 3940, character 6
  • Unihan data for U+8A0E

Chinese[edit]

Historical forms of the character 討
Liushutong (compiled in Ming)
Transcribed ancient scripts
討-bigseal.svg
trad. 討
simp. 讨

Pronunciation[edit]

Rime
Character 討
Reading # 1/1
Initial (聲) 透 (6)
Final (韻) 豪 (89)
Tone (調) Rising (X)
Openness (開合) Open
Division (等) I
Fanqie 他浩切
Reconstructions
Zhengzhang
Shangfang 		/tʰɑuX/
Pan
Wuyun 		/tʰɑuX/
Shao
Rongfen 		/tʰɑuX/
Edwin
Pulleyblank 		/tʰawX/
Li
Rong 		/tʰɑuX/
Wang
Li 		/tʰɑuX/
Bernard
Karlgren 		/tʰɑuX/
Expected
Mandarin
Reflex 		tǎo
Expected
Cantonese
Reflex 		tou2
Baxter–Sagart system 1.1 (2014)
Character 討
Reading # 1/1
Modern
Beijing
(Pinyin) 		tǎo
Middle
Chinese 		‹ thawX ›
Old
Chinese 		/*[t]ʰˁuʔ/
English examine; denounce

Notes for Old Chinese notations in the Baxter–Sagart system:

* Parentheses "()" indicate uncertain presence;
* Square brackets "[]" indicate uncertain identity, e.g. *[t] as coda may in fact be *-t or *-p;
* Angle brackets "<>" indicate infix;
* Hyphen "-" indicates morpheme boundary;

* Period "." indicates syllable boundary.
Zhengzhang system (2003)
Character 討
Reading # 1/1
No. 12374
Phonetic
component 		討
Rime
group 		幽
Rime
subdivision 		1
Corresponding
MC rime 		討
Old
Chinese 		/*tʰuːʔ/
Notes 疑肘聲

Definitions[edit]

討

  1. to discuss
  2. to ask for; to beg
  3. to demand
  4. to dun
  5. to marry
  6. (Min Dong) to look for
    雞母扒糞掃，無事討事做。 [Min Dong, trad.]
    鸡母扒粪扫，无事讨事做。 [Min Dong, simp.]
    Giĕ-mō̤ bà bóng-só̤, mò̤-dâi tō̤-dâi có̤. / [kie⁵⁵⁻⁵³ mo³³ pa⁵³ puŋ²¹³⁻⁵³ (s-)nɔ²¹³ mo⁵³⁻²¹ (t-)lɑi²⁴² tʰo³³⁻⁵⁵ (t-)lɑi²⁴² t͡sɔ²¹³] [Bàng-uâ-cê / IPA]
    Have nothing else to do.

Synonyms[edit]

Dialectal synonyms of 找 (“to look for, to seek, to search for”) [map]
Variety Location Words
Classical Chinese 求, 尋, 覓1
Formal (Written Standard Chinese) 找, 尋找, 尋覓
Mandarin Beijing 找
Taiwan 找
Muping 找
Jinan 找
Luoyang 尋, 找
Wanrong 尋
Xi'an 尋, 找
Xining 尋
Wuhan 找, 尋
Chengdu 找
Guiyang 找
Guilin 找
Liuzhou 找
Yangzhou 找
Hefei 找
Malaysia 找
Singapore 找
Cantonese Guangzhou 搵
Hong Kong 搵
Hong Kong (San Tin Weitou) 搵
Hong Kong (Kam Tin Weitou) 尋
Hong Kong (Ting Kok) 搵
Hong Kong (Tung Ping Chau) 搵
Macau 搵
Panyu 搵
Huadu (Huashan) 搵
Conghua 搵
Zengcheng 搵
Foshan 搵
Nanhai (Shatou) 搵
Shunde 搵
Sanshui 搵
Gaoming (Mingcheng) 搵
Zhongshan (Shiqi) 搵
Zhuhai (Qianshan) 搵
Doumen (Shangheng Tanka) 搵
Doumen 搵
Jiangmen (Baisha) 搵
Xinhui 搵
Taishan 搵
Kaiping (Chikan) 搵
Enping (Niujiang) 搵
Heshan (Yayao) 搵
Dongguan 搵
Bao'an (Shajing) 尋, 搵
Qingyuan 搵
Fogang 搵
Yingde (Hanguang) 搵
Yangshan 搵
Shaoguan 搵
Qujiang 搵
Renhua 搵
Lechang 搵
Gaoyao 搵
Sihui 搵
Guangning 搵
Deqing 搵
Huaiji 搵
Fengkai (Nanfeng) 搵
Yunfu 搵
Xinxing 搵
Luoding 搵
Yunan (Pingtai) 搵
Yangjiang 搵
Xinyi 搵
Lianjiang 搵
Wuchuan (Wuyang) 尋
Nanning 搵
Kuala Lumpur (Guangfu) 搵
Singapore (Guangfu) 搵
Gan Nanchang 尋, 找
Lichuan 尋
Pingxiang 尋
Hakka Meixian 尋
Xingning 尋
Huizhou (Huicheng Bendihua) 尋
Huidong (Daling) 尋
Dongguan (Qingxi) 尋
Shenzhen (Shatoujiao) 尋
Zhongshan (Nanlang Heshui) 搵
Heyuan (Bendihua) 尋
Zijin 尋
Qujiang 尋
Lianshan (Xiaosanjiang) 尋
Liannan 尋
Conghua (Lütian) 尋
Jiexi 尋
Zhao'an (Xiuzhuan) 尋
Changting 尋
Wuping 尋
Wuping (Yanqian) 尋
Wuping (Pingyu) 尋
Liancheng 尋
Ninghua 尋
Yudu 尋
Ningdu 尋
Ruijin 尋
Shicheng 尋
Shangyou 尋
Tonggu (Sandu) 尋
Ganzhou (Panlong) 尋
Dayu 尋
Miaoli (N. Sixian) 尋
Liudui (S. Sixian) 尋
Hsinchu (Hailu) 尋
Dongshi (Dabu) 尋
Hsinchu (Raoping) 尋
Yunlin (Zhao'an) 尋
Hong Kong 尋
Yangxi (Tangkou) 搵, 跟
Yangchun (Sanjia) 搵
Xinyi (Sihe) 跟
Xinyi (Qianpai) 跟
Gaozhou (Xindong) 跟
Dianbai (Shalang) 跟
Huazhou (Xin'an) 跟
Lianjiang (Shijiao) 跟
Lianjiang (Qingping) 跟
Mengshan (Xihe) 尋
Luchuan 尋
Senai (Huiyang) 尋
Huizhou Jixi 尋
Jin Taiyuan 尋, 找
Min Bei Jian'ou 撈
Min Dong Fuzhou 討, 尋
Matsu 討
Singapore (Fuqing) 討
Min Nan Xiamen 揣, 覓1
Xiamen (Tong'an) 揣
Quanzhou 揣, 覓1
Jinjiang 揣
Shishi 揣
Zhangzhou 揣, 覓1
Zhao'an 揣
Taipei 揣
New Taipei (Sanxia) 揣
Kaohsiung 揣
Yilan 揣
Changhua (Lukang) 揣
Taichung 揣
Tainan 揣
Hsinchu 揣
Kinmen 揣
Penghu (Magong) 揣
Penang (Hokkien) 揣
Singapore (Hokkien) 揣
Manila (Hokkien) 揣
Chaozhou 揣
Shantou 揣
Chenghai 揣
Chaoyang 揣
Jieyang 揣
Haifeng 揣
Bangkok (Teochew) 揣
Johor Bahru (Teochew) 揣
Singapore (Teochew) 揣
Leizhou 覓3
Wenchang 覓3, 揣
Haikou 覓3
Zhongshan Min Sanxiang 搵
Wu Shanghai 尋
Chongming 尋
Suzhou 尋
Danyang 尋
Hangzhou 尋
Ningbo 尋
Wenzhou 尋
Jinhua 尋
Xiang Changsha 尋
Shuangfeng 尋
Loudi 尋

Compounds[edit]

Derived terms from 討

Japanese[edit]

Kanji[edit]

討

(grade 6 “Kyōiku” kanji)

  1. to chastise

Readings[edit]

Korean[edit]

Etymology[edit]

From Middle Chinese 討 (MC tʰɑuX).

Historical readings

Pronunciation[edit]

  • (to attack; to subjugate; etc.):
  • (to discuss; to debate; etc.):
    • (SK Standard/Seoul) IPA(key): [tʰo̞(ː)]
    • Phonetic hangul: [토(ː)]
      • Long vowel distinction only applies at the initial position. Most speakers no longer distinguish vowel length at any position.

Hanja[edit]

Korean Wikisource has texts containing the hanja:

Wikisource

討 (eumhun 칠 토 (chil to))

  1. Hanja form? of 토 (“to attack; to destroy”).
  2. Hanja form? of 토 (“to subjugate; to subdue”).
  3. Hanja form? of 토 (“to discuss; to debate”).

Compounds[edit]

Compounds

References[edit]

  • 국제퇴계학회 대구경북지부 (國際退溪學會 大邱慶北支部) (2007). Digital Hanja Dictionary, 전자사전／電子字典. [1]

Vietnamese[edit]

Han character[edit]

討: Hán Nôm readings: thảo

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