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NOTE: Conversations between third parties on my talk page are liable to deletion - talk amongst yourselves, not on my talk page.

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enol

We have some blocks that spell out NOEL so I changed them round to spell LONE and then ENOL. How do you pronounce enol? I found a couple of YouTube videos such as Keto-Enol Tautomerism where it's pronounced /ˈiːnɔl/, but I was thinking it was /ˈɛnɔl/. Phenol also lacks a pronunciation section, and I looked enol up in my dictionary and it's not listed. Help? Mglovesfun (talk) 20:17, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thik Mark

Hey, SemperBlotto. Curious as to the removal of the etymology offered for 'tick mark'. This was the etymology offered me my whole life; while I am now away from my library (and have no Oxford Unabridged nearby), I even remember a dozen references of former military Brits stationed in India, who adopted 'tick' in the Hindi form of 'good, acceptable' in their everyday lingo.

Did you remove it because you know a more accurate etymology, or because you'd never heard this one? — This unsigned comment was added by 103.29.249.242 (talk).

  • I assume you decided to edit Wiktionary without ever using it first. Otherwise you would have noticed that our entries are strictly formatted. You added plain text after the final interwiki link. You should have added a properly formatted ===Etymology=== section near the top. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ah. A thousand apologies. I'd have thought that poorly formatted information might be corrected, not excised. I'll be more cautious to adhere to orthodox expression in the future. It does make me wonder how much good information has been lost to the aether due to poor formatting, and the tendency to delete the poorly formatted, rather than correct it. — This unsigned comment was added by 103.29.249.242 (talk).

Rollback on the entry editor

I would like to ask for the reason. --Kc kennylau (talk) 11:00, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request

I would like to create a category for the German verb conjugations without an existing link of the conjugated words. If you permit me to do so, I am able to do it all by myself. --Kc kennylau (talk) 12:32, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • It would seem to contain the names of German verbs. Therefore should be named something like "German verbs having red links in their conjugation table". However, if it is meant to be a temporary category, to be used by you alone, then you could call it something like "Kc kennylau test category" - and remember to get it deleted when you have finished with it. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. While we are on the subject of verbs and verb forms, I notice that you are creating German verb forms but using "head|de|verb" - this puts them, incorrectly, into the category "German verbs". SemperBlotto (talk) 15:24, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that is a lot of work to do. P.S. This category is still incomplete since not all pages are purged. --Kc kennylau (talk) 15:50, 10 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request to adjective

I request to do the same to adjective declension tables. --Kc kennylau (talk) 04:09, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for using AWB

Please kindly look at my request, then please deny or accept it. --Kc kennylau (talk) 15:39, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Uncategorized German noun forms.

E.g. [[Hämoglobins#German]]. (Full list at User:Yair rand/uncategorized language sections/Not English#German.) —RuakhTALK 21:05, 11 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I request again

User talk:SemperBlotto#Request to adjective. --Kc kennylau (talk) 03:17, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Recetter

Why did you revert the French definition of recetter ? Please read https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/recetter http://jargonf.org/wiki/recetter and un-revert, thanks! Nicolas1981 (talk) 04:51, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think that he reverted your edit because you used the noun heading and you did not provide any link. --Kc kennylau (talk) 08:28, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I was wrong indeed, it was the wrong heading! Sorry about that, and thanks for checking my mess :-) Nicolas1981 (talk) 05:44, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

pancontinental

Hey, pancontinental exists in Portuguese and so I put on the page. ArionEstar (talk) 15:06, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

{{de-decl-adj}}, {{de-decl-adj-notcomp}}, {{de-decl-adj-notcomp-nopred}}

I apologize if I am too active these days, but I have two suggestions of rework:

First suggestion: I would like to build 3 templates: {{de-decl-adj-pos}}, {{de-decl-adj-comp}}, {{de-decl-adj-sup}}. The first template will contain the positive form of {{{1}}}, the second template will contain the comparative form of {{{1}}}, and the third template will contain the superlative form of {{{1}}}. The three templates will have one more parameter, {{{nopred}}}, which, if is not empty, will disable the predicate. Then, {{de-decl-adj}} can call the three templates, {{de-decl-adj-notcomp}} can call the first template, {{de-decl-adj-notcomp-nopred}} can call the first template with {{{nopred}}} turned on.
Second suggestion: I would like to build only 1 template: {{de-decl-adj-table}}, with three parameters. {{{1}}} will be the stem of the positive/comparative/superlative form. {{{form}}} will be whether the adjective is in positive form, comparative form or superlative form. {{{nopred}}} will disable the predicate when turned on. {{de-decl-adj}} can call the template thrice, {{de-decl-adj-notcomp}} can call the template once, and {{de-decl-adj-notcomp-nopred}} can call the template once while turning {{{nopred}}} on.

Since you left a comment on {{de-decl-adj}} about me informing you, here is the mirror. --kc_kennylau (talk) 04:02, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Wingfai.angel

Could you please take a look at user Wingfai.angel's contributions. I just reverted an edit to space but none of their contributions seem constructive. SpinningSpark 00:25, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notification made for your message at Template:de-decl-adj/documentation#Note

{{de-decl-adj}}, {{de-decl-adj-notcomp}}, {{de-decl-adj-notcomp-nopred}} have now been modified by CodeCat and me, and {{de-decl-adj-table}} has been created. This notification is sent to you because of your message at Template:de-decl-adj/documentation#Note. --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What I really meant was:- will de-decl-adj be allowed to have a comparative followed by a hyphen for the superlative (or the converse)? SemperBlotto (talk) 14:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that is necessary, but I will implement this feature. --kc_kennylau (talk) 06:04, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"sales" as an adjective

Why was my "sales as an adjective" addition rolled back? -- bob

It's an adjective too: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sales http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sales?s=t among others... -- Bob

You are wrong and I have productive work to do and a life to live. Enjoy your private sandbox.

-- Bob

Umm

Why did you revert my edit here? Depressogenic IS a noun. And in fact, you even reverted my antonyms list. Could you please explain your revert? Porchcorpter (talk) 00:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You probably need citations, see WT:CFI and the section on citations. Check for usage of the term in a noun sense on Usenet (found in Google Groups) or Google Books. That said, my understanding is that most words suffixed with -genic can sometimes, and in rare instances, be used in a noun sense, but they are not 'true nouns'. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 01:28, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Thanks for your information. But anxiogenic is a noun. Porchcorpter (talk) 01:44, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've done a search on Google Books, and on Google Search. And I found results on "depressogenics" (the plural of "depressogenic"). And even this category on Wikipedia is pluralized. Porchcorpter (talk) 02:08, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So, SemperBlotto, why did you revert the edit? Porchcorpter (talk) 08:31, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
A quick search showed only the adjective sense. Also "An agent that causes or tend to cause depression" was bad grammar. Noun sense now added. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:35, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for fixing it. Porchcorpter (talk) 08:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've messed this up

So how can my creation of Mayor (surname) which I think has better content be fixed and the content moved to Mayor? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 10:38, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Dougweller: Please note that although Wiktionary and Wikipedia use the same system, Wiktionary is not Wikipedia. In Wiktionary, we do not create pages disambiguation, nor do we use parentheses to disambiguate. Moreover, please do not copy directly from Wikipedia, as we use a completely different format. Etymological entries use the templates From {{etyl|from-language|to-language}} {{term|to-language|the term}} to create a tree. frei would serve as a good example for the etymological entries. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:01, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, thanks. However, the name doesn't appear to be Anglo-Norman but is a variant of Mayer as well as a Catalan variant of Major. But I won't try to fix it again unless I can figure out the syntax to show the various sources. I think I've fixed Enfield correctly but that probably won't stick as the editor who created it found a placename site that he thinks is superior to anything else. Dougweller (talk) 14:20, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

About my request in Beer parlour

I know that you do not use AutoWikiBrowser and are extremely unfamiliar with it. However, if I am enabled to use it, it will be much easier for me to do mass editing, as well as adding declension tables to the adjectives that you have given me. I beg you to respond to my request although you have little knowledge in its function. If you want to enable me to use AWB, you can simply add my name in WT:AWB. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

About German Update (take 2)

Could you please make a list of the {{de-adj}} usage without the first parameter, thank you. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:47, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

blödeer

Hi, can you please delete blödeer and all the other forms mistakenly created by the declension table at blöde (that I just removed)? Only the predicative form ends in -e, the rest of the declension is just like the one for blöd. Thanks! Longtrend (talk) 19:03, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Teks is a malay word

Teks is a Malay and Indonesian word. The meaning of teks is text. It's a loan word from English. You could fine it in the official Malay dictionary (Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka). Malay have 2 type of writings. ABC letters and Arabic letters (Jawi writing). That's why there's arabic letters there. Hope you could find this useful :) Malaysiaboy (talk) 23:51, 17 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Malaysiaboy: Yes, we know a few things about languages. I guess the revert was due to improper formatting. I have restored your contribution. Please pay attention to WT:ELE#Basics. Otherwise, welcome. Keφr 18:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

German update (take 3)

Thanks to User:CodeCat I now have a more complete list. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:32, 18 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

List updated. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:36, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
List updated. --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:15, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

I've sent you an email. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 10:16, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The same mistake

Could you add some lines to the program of the bot so that it can prevent this mistake from happening again? I always make the same mistake...... --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please restore

Please restore eigenständigerer. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:25, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

About thy bot

Do you mind disclosing your bot working hours, out of curiosity? --kc_kennylau (talk) 10:04, 24 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please join this conversation.

Please join this conversation if you like. :-) --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:18, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete the following

--kc_kennylau (talk) 09:27, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

About thy bot again

Do you mind adding a few lines in your bot's code so that it can adapt to the comp2 and sup2 parameter in {{de-decl-adj}} <added>so that you do not have to do this edit</added>? Thank you. --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:26, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

login.py

I can't even run login.py, it gives me a syntax error at query.py line 172 at the comma. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:56, 26 January 2014 (UTC)[reply] 

def modit(oldtext, before, after):
   x = oldtext.find(before)
   if x < 0:
       return oldtext
   length = len(before)
   newtext = oldtext[:x] + after + oldtext[x+length:]
   x = newtext.find(before)
   if x < 0:
       return newtext
   return modit(newtext, before, after)

   page = wikipedia.Page(mysite, pagename)
   if page.exists():
       old_text = page.get()
       if not re.search(r'==\s*German\s*==', old_text):
           contents = old_text + '\n\n----\n'  + newpage + '\n\n'
           commenttext_add = commenttext + " - appended"
           wikipedia.output(u"Page %s already exists, adding to entry!"%pagename)
           page.put(contents, comment = commenttext_add, minorEdit = False)
       else:
           wikipedia.output(u"Page %s already exists with German section, not adding!"%pagename)
   else:
       page.put(newpage, comment = commenttext, minorEdit = True)

Valles Marineris pronunciation

Hi,

Could you add the pronunciation on Valles Marineris ? (I'm trying to complete fr:Valles Marineris)

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:18, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Niemand

Hi. Do you have any evidence for the plural forms of Niemand? I doubt they exist. Longtrend (talk) 18:47, 27 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. Feel free to correct any of my German attempts at dictionary entries.

About my bot

How would I read pages from a text file and process them? Thanks in advance. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:13, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • I use something like the following. There is something strange about Python reading the first line - I always start (and end) the file with a null line. I've never gotten to the bottom of it. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:20, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
nouns = open('denouns.txt', 'r')
lemma = nouns.readline() # First line strange
while len(lemma) > 1:
    lemma = nouns.readline()[:-1]
    if len(lemma) > 1:
        lemma = lemma.decode('utf-8')
        findforms(lemma) # <=== This is where you process the entry
nouns.close()
Thank you, but how to convert a string into a page? --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:23, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You can construct a page like this:-
   newpage = "==German==" + '\n\n' + "===Noun===" + '\n'
   newpage = newpage + "your headword here" + '\n\n'
   newpage = newpage + "# your definition/translation here"
then feed it into your page.put routine. (\n gives you a newline) SemperBlotto (talk) 16:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Of course it won't read the first line, you called readline() twice. I get now what you say, comment discarded. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

L2 header

How would I use python to know which language section I'm working on? Assume I already have get = page.get(). --kc_kennylau (talk) 15:26, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

German conjugation

According to WT:ELE#Headings after the definitions, the conjugation section should come before synonyms and derived/related terms. —CodeCat 17:16, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. I'm planning on comparing our conjugation templates with the ones on German Wiktionary, so that I can figure out what to code.

I used a different approach for the Dutch inflection tables, which works well. Instead of trying to replicate everything the table does, and how it interprets its parameters, the template is able to generate bot-readable output if you give it the parameter bot=1. So the bot only needs to do a template expansion, and it receives all the inflected forms in the table, but in a simple and neat format that the bot can easily understand. —CodeCat 18:17, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I meant - I'm figuring out how to code the actual templates for particular verbs (by seeing how the Germans code theirs). SemperBlotto (talk) 19:47, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
But we already have working templates, don't we? —CodeCat 19:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes - but I don't know how to code them for each particular verb - cause I'm only a de-1. It's part of my education. SemperBlotto (talk) 19:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think the documentations are clear enough, aren't they? --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:37, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Let's take a nice, simple example - {{de-conj-weak}}. It says that we can code the 4th parameter as "e", and tells us what it does. But it doesn't explain when we might want to code it. By looking at other verbs, and looking at the German Wiktionary, I am guessing that we code it if the verb ends in -ten or -den. But I don't know that for a fact. I similarly think that we code the 5th parameter as "t" if the verb ends in -zen or -sen, but don't know it as a fact. Do we ever code both the 4th and 5th parameters? The documentation doesn't say. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:05, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, the templates are confusing and their documentation isn't terribly clear. In the example at hand 4=e for verbs ending in -ten or -den but also for verbs ending in -nen with a consonant before the -nen, e.g. regnen and ebnen because for those the 3rd person singular is regnet and ebnet, not *regnt and *ebnt. And 5=t for verbs ending in -zen, -sen, and -ßen. So I don't think 4 and 5 are ever both set at the same time. Lua should certainly be able to detect whether the stem ends in t, d, z, s, or ß, and maybe even if it ends in consonant+n, but until the templates get Luacized, we have to limp through with what we've got. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 08:18, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for clearing that up. By the way, I see you sometimes code 6=... instead of just adding a 6th parameter. The Lua form (if we ever get one) might need extra logic to understand that. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:22, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Aɴɢʀ: But lernt for lernen may be a counter example of what you've just said? --kc_kennylau (talk) 08:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Writing 6= is the same thing as adding a 6th parameter, it just saves having to put in a bunch of pipes with nothing between them first. Kenny, you're right about lernt. The rule given in my grammar book is that the e is inserted not only after d and t but also after m and n when these are preceded by any consonant other than l or r, e.g. atmet and zeichnet but filmt and lernt. Also, verbs in -xen behave like those in -sen/-ßen/-zen, so x is another consonant to add to the list for when to set the 5th parameter to t. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 08:36, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There's also no e after m and n if the preceding consonant is h, since h isn't pronounced there anyway: it's beschlagnahmt not *beschlagnahmet. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 11:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
My attempt (I'm a beginner to Python but know Java well) (not checked at all):
def generate_code_weak(title, separable_prefix=, contains_inseparable_prefix=False):
    prefix_len = len(separable_prefix)
    output = r'{{de-conj-weak|' + title[prefix_len:-2] + r'|'
    if contains_inseparable_prefix:
        output = output + title[prefix_len:-1] + r't'
    else:
        output = output + r'ge' + title[prefix_len:-1] + r't'
    output = output + r'|h'
    if title[-3] == 'd' or title[-3] == 't':
        output = output + r'|e'
    elif title[-3] == 'n':
        if not title[-4] == 'l' or title[-4] == 'r':
            output = output + r'|e'
    elif title [-3] == 'x' or title[-3] == 's' or title[-3] == 'ß' or title[-3] == 'z':
        output = output + r'||t'
    if prefix_len > 0:
        output = output + r'|7=' + separable_prefix
    output = output + r'}}'
    return output
--kc_kennylau (talk) 08:52, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

German adjectives, German verbs, now it has come to German nouns...

This is a category that you may wish to work on: Category:German nouns having red links in their declension table. I tried to create a script to do it but I failed. I may try to create it again in case you do not wish to do this. --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:46, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ισ ιτ σο ηαρδ το προσεσσ γρεεκ?!

Is it so hard to process Greek (The title is not translation, it's transliteration)?! :O

I can't even do this!

wikipedia.Page(site, 'καππα')

I tried many method, I've tried them all, all didn't work. I even tried encode and decode combined, or decode and encode combine. I literally tried everything in the world. Please teach me. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:36, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do not try to hardcode unicode in a python editor. Save it to a file, encode as utf-8, and decode as you open the file. DTLHS (talk) 21:18, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am able to save files as UTF-8, and the Python interpreter reads them without any problems. I have to put u before string literals that contain non-ASCII characters, though. —CodeCat 22:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my God, I checked the console encoding by chcp, found it's cp950, then used .encode('cp950') and it worked so beautifully. --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:11, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Kompositum

There is a second plural form Komposita. Best regards --Yoursmile (talk) 22:08, 2 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The term "ff"

Why shouldn't ff be a Category:Latin abbreviations? My research on it here showed it to contain at least some Latin. Cpiral (talk) 22:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Is it provably ("attestably") used in running Latin text? If not, then it is a Latin-derived abbreviation used in whatever languages it is attested in. If there are a few languages, we might put it in Category:Translingual abbreviations, which is probably underused for such abbreviations. DCDuring TALK 23:13, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

irregular conjugations (de)

You may wish to work in here. --kc_kennylau (talk) 05:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

On the comparability of geäußert

Hi, I see you removed the comparative/superlative forms of geäußert. While they are excruciatingly rare, I added them because of things like "der Ursprung wird geäußerter als vorher, macht sich objektiver im Draußen, als geglückteres Draußen, geltend". However, that's all I can find for the comparative, and I can't find the superlative at all, so I guess neither form is attested enough to meet CFI. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

cosmic microwave background

Surely this is includable, unless it's merely a microwave background which is cosmic in nature. 2.30.97.94 14:01, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

annulled

Let's discuss why you felt that my edit to annulled needed reversion. Thanks! Technical 13 (talk) 20:46, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Many words that end in "ed" are not adjectives, though some are. A true adjective can be distinguished from a past participle by criteria set out at WT:English adjectives. DCDuring TALK 22:00, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable rollback on axonotmesis

I added both the technical definition and a colloquial definition to the page axonotmesis. You excised my colloquial definition, (perhaps for my liberal use of the wiki formatting?), but I attest that the rollback is in err. A 'nerve crush injury' is a common term in the med-physio literature as an synonym for axonotmesis. I will add it back as a second definition with the proper wiki formatting, please let me know if you have any problems with this.Russot1 (talk) 07:59, 9 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A help for it.wiktionary

Hi SemperBlotto, I write from the italian wiktionary. We were wondering (here) if you could share the files of the italian conjugated verbs and nouns you used to run SemperBlottoBot; we would use them to create an italian version of the bot (following your codes, and of course crediting you as the author). It would be great if you could help us with this, we are so few on the italian project... thanks for your attention, buona giornata! :) --Barbaking (talk) 10:14, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi there. I have created "Utente:Barbaking/it-are" on the Italian Wiktionary. As you can see, the format of entries on our two Wiktionaries is very different. You need to make massive edits to that file. If you want more, let me know and I'll send you the most useful ones. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:34, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very very much! We'll start to work on that list, I'll let you informed. Thanks again, bye :) --Barbaking (talk) 11:15, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if I bother you again so soon, but I have two questions. First, do you think I have to manually compile an imput text file such as "it.txt" (mentioned here), or can I download it from somewhere? And second: if I understand correctly, in the list I have not to modify the "template:-start-" and "template:-stop-" at the end of each section, because they're only part of the template's command codes, am I right? (i.e. I have to make modifications like this to arrange the format?) I hope I'm not abusing of your patience, it's the first time I work on something as complex as this bot. Goodbye, --Barbaking (talk) 14:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The file it.txt can start as an empty file on your PC. You then copy the contents of it-are (or similar) file into it.txt, change all occurrences of ? to the stem of the verb (e.g. ? => parl, for parlare) and save it (it.txt). You then run the bot program that reads the current version of it.txt and generates the verb forms. Good luck. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:34, 11 February 2014 (UTC) p.s. The changes you made are exactly the sort that you need to make. Don't change the -start-, -stop- or <<<...>>> entries - they are used by the bot program to locate the beginning and end of each verb form, and to find its name.[reply]
Good, thank you again, you're very kind! We'll make an attempt soon :) --Barbaking (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that we made it! Following your instructions we created it:User:Barbabot, and it is now running (in the last week it added something like 10k new articles of verb forms...). Thank you again for your precious help from the whole italian community, you really helped us! :) Have a nice day, --Barbaking (talk) 18:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The page referred to "lager" being conjugated forms of the German verb "lagern". That is wrong, There is only a noun "das Lager", but it is written with a capital L.

I know the Duden, and I had checked, there is no conjugated form "lager" of lagern. — This unsigned comment was added by Abanagka (talk • contribs).

Reverted edits to WT:Anodyne

Hi Jeff, thanks for properly reverting my stub-level edit to this wt entry, restoring Widsith's 27 Feb 2013 version (with language-translation mods by Mewbot and Rukhabot). An explanation might be in order: I was led to WT page en.m.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=anodyne via my QuikWiki context link from a WP entry. The page existed, but had no visible content except for its [was wotd] tag and the "ENGLISH" header, with a diacritical mark I did not then recognize as the English content section's SHOW/HIDE button. Comparing it to the WT:anodyne entry I could access more directly (en.wiktionary.org/wiki/anodyne), I noted the full English dictionary content (with ENGLISH section header, but no Show/Hide button, since translation info on this WT page is appropriately moved to separate links near each of the six listed meanings.) Finding my entry quickly reverted led me to look again. Still not so clear why the format of pages on en.m.wiktionary.org/w/index.php is different, with its top-level invitation to search the meaning in other languages. But again, thank you. bookerj 13 Feb 2014

I didn't know the language sections collapsed in mobile view, either. It does seem like it might be useful as an option for normal viewers too, maybe as an alternative for tabbed languages if people don't like it. —CodeCat 17:34, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for editing protected pages

Please see Wiktionary:Beer_parlour/2014/February#Request_edit_for_Module:labels.2Fdata. --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:28, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Ossining

Hi Jeff,

Regarding this edit, Ossining is the name of a town and village in Westchester County, New York. Please see:

I wish you did some research before reverting edits, or you'd have learned this on your own. Caio --Ɱ (talk) 23:00, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've restored the village definition, based on WP and my personal knowledge of this town and village, some 22 miles from where I live. DCDuring TALK 23:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, DCDuring. --Ɱ (talk) 23:44, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
So, are you saying that (deprecated template usage) Ossining is both a town and a village in Westchester county, and that both are the site of Sing Sing prison? SemperBlotto (talk) 08:08, 19 February 2014 (UTC) @DCDuring @CodeCat[reply]
Yes, and the village is located in the town. The village is half of the town. If you live in the village, you also live in the town (but not necessarily vice versa). —Stephen (Talk) 08:18, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'll see if I can edit the entry to that effect (and hopefully not get blocked). SemperBlotto (talk) 08:23, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The reversion of my reversion seemed gratuitous. I hadn't seen CodeCat's self-reversion, though I thought I had looked in user contributions. But IMO now I've more than repaid my debt to society, even with the grant of clemency (much appreciated).
Anyway, the entry looks better than ever, with a real, documented etymology yet. DCDuring TALK 22:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wiktionary Hefei

Hi Jeff,

Why did you reverted the changed done for Hefei Urdu Information added.

--Tahir mq (talk) 09:56, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations!

Congratulations for achieving "a phenomenal score"! --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:30, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Darn, I thought I had milked that Z pretty well. Equinox ◑ 16:05, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to try for three bonuses in a row (with no strange language surnames). SemperBlotto (talk) 16:08, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request edit for Module:labels/data

Please express your view in here. --kc_kennylau (talk) 16:23, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

bigender

You removed genderfuck, from a list of related terms such as genderqueer and others, this is a legitimate term in queer studies and is a gender identity that many people use. — This unsigned comment was added by Cuttingrumrill (talk • contribs).

I presume it was removed simply due to the fact that Semper is this project's most active edit-patroller, there is a never-ending stream of edits to patrol, genderfuck is not a very well-known word, and so at first glance it just looks like someone added a made-up swearword, lol. Even on second glance, the semantic connection is not as direct as the semantic connection between bigender and the other words present in the list; however, genderfuck is a valid, related word, so I've added it back.
(On a technical note, rather than repeat subtly different lists of "related terms" on all the various gender-related words, I should probably make a {{list}} to transclude...)
Cheers to both of you,- -sche (discuss) 17:57, 22 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

eigengene

Thanks again for adding "eigengene" to Wiktionary! The suggested reference to "eigengene" that is earlier than 1999, however, is not a reference to the English word "eigengene," but rather it is a German phrase in a German text on plant breeding, using the German phrase "self-gene" to mean a wild-type gene in the wild-type plant. Thanks also for the "eigenface" definition. Allow me to suggest adding "eigenface" to the Category:English_words_prefixed_with_eigen-. Orly.alter (talk) 17:55, 23 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

rollback on "hice"

Nonstandard plurals are accepted on wiktionary in other instances. Both "boxen" and "meese" are entries in wiktionary. — This unsigned comment was added by 97.123.29.95 (talk).

Firstly, your entry is poorly formatted. See WT:ELE for the formatting and arrows for an example. Secondly, it has to be attested. See WT:CFI for this. Both "boxen" and "meese" are attested. At least you have to support it with a source. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

de-conj

Added some pages to Category:German verbs having red links in their conjugation table, please change your code accordingly. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:05, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

moon rocket

This page was deleted by you in 2011, but I wonder whether it's a populist term. I only ask because I found an entry for "månerakett" in the Norwegian Wiktionary; I entered a translation with a note saying it doesn't appear in the English Wiktionary. Donnanz (talk) 11:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Latin project

You may wish to work on [[Category:Latin nouns having red links in their declension table]] and [[Category:Latin adjectives having red links in their declension table]]. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:47, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Error by SemperBlottoBot

As the declension table at Cinna indicates, Cinna has no plural forms, because it's a cognomen. But when SemperBlottoBot created Cinna's inflected forms today, it created plural as well as singular forms: Cinnas, Cinnarum, Cinnis. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 14:07, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Epicaricacy

Why did you remove lulz from the See Also section of the epicaricacy page? As far as I can see, it has a similar meaning and is appropriate for the see also section. It would be nice if you would provide an explanation instead of giving the automated rollback message. Q6637p (talk) 11:41, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just expressing my view here

Doesn't it annoy you that the rules of WT:ACCEL is locked? --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Possible bot errors?

Are these forms in error? --Back on the list (talk) 14:48, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

error

This is an error. Please fix your robot. — This unsigned comment was added by Reub2000 (talk • contribs).

Current revision looks ok. But the revision to which you reverted the page had serious errors. Reub2000 (talk) 02:16, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

90.191.206.10 (talk)

Why did you block him? I admit that I haven't looked at all of his contributions, but I can't find vandalism... --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:39, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Stop revert warring

Please explain your deletion of the link in equicrescent instead of silently revert warring. I've explained my change and even included an example of usage. 71.167.69.72 15:49, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nachtrag

Ich habe gesucht im Duden, der mir gesagt hat, dass der Genitiv des Nachtrags kann "Nachtrages" sein. --kc_kennylau (talk) 00:01, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User page deletion

Hi~ My user page was deleted (deletion log).

I apologize for not making an appropriate user page before making edits to the dictionary, but is it possible to undelete it if I try to make some Wiktionary edits and also if I add more detail to the user page regarding how I plan to contribute to the project?

I have a hard time finding my way around any of the Wikimedia sites, and I thought a user page directing others to where they might best reach me regarding any of the Wiki projects might help. So, I didn't put anything except link to my main user page.

I read Wiktionary:Usernames_and_user_pages#User_pages, and also now noticed there is also an additional requirement displayed when creating a user page:

"User pages of accounts that do not contribute to the dictionary proper may be deleted after an unspecified period."

I'm especially worried about the "may be deleted after an unspecified period" part, as my current situation will likely mean my edits will be far between. However, I do think my edits will be appropriate over time. As an example, my Wikipedia contributions will probably be similar to my edits for the dictionary, just not as often. If I also state that my edits will be this way, will it help to avoid deletion?

I didn't expect Wiktionary to have different policies than Wikipedia besides article stuff (and I'm still confused about it). Sorry about my ignorance of that.

Also, if this is the wrong place to talk about any of this stuff, can you help me to know where I should go?

Thank you and have a great day~:) ZeniffMartineau (talk) 23:23, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I restored your user page. SemperBlotto is sometimes a little too trigger happy. --WikiTiki89 23:30, 10 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that was fast! :-O Thank you very much! I'm just not used to how stuff works around here yet, and it helped me to read the rules, which I should've done sooner. :) And sorry about the big blob of confused newbie text^^;; ZeniffMartineau (talk) 00:06, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmopolitan

Just curious as to your reasoning for rolling back my added def'n of cosmopolitan, which simply more accurately reflects its Greek root and is starting to be used in some academic circles to refer more broadly to engagement in extraplanetary endeavours...Thanks. — This unsigned comment was added by 207.164.2.174 (talk).

Persian

I did some edits to clear up the confusions between "Persian" the people, and other usages this term has. I did not get your reasoning behind simply reverting my edits. 174.1.42.229 11:23, 23 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Indian-subcontinent

I think that this term is not a sum of parts for it often is used in writing to describe South Asia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives, Sri Lanka and sometimes Burma, and Afghanistan or parts of China, this is irrespective of the plate tectonics. The continent itself is referred to asIndian-subcontinent even when we are talking about a history lesson when it was attached to Antarctica and Australia, when it was standalone and now fused into Asia and in the future, so how should i spell it? I believe these understandings of what it means are far different from "a semi continent + adj. India) IMHO, what do you think?

Template:pt-noun

The plural no longer defaults to -s (it now uses Module:pt-plural), and genders containing the character p will display no plural. — Ungoliant (falai) 14:19, 30 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

fazedors, faroêss, falsificaçãos, factótums, facilitadors, extrusãos, exultaçãos, extorsãos, extirpaçãos, expectoraçãos, exclamaçãos, exaustors, eudicotiledôneass, estupradors, estudos sociaiss, estudos de traduçãos, estripadors, estols, estimulaçãos, estendals, estandardizaçãos, esqualidezs, espreitadors, esponsaiss, esplims, esmerils, escrituraçãos, escorregadors, escorredors, escols, erudiçãos, equitaçãos, equipagems, enxovals, enviadors, enunciaçãos, entonaçãos, enganaçãos, enganadors, enforcadors, emuladors, emprestadors, empregadors, embraiagems, embaixatrizs, eletrificaçãos, eleitors, eglefims, edredoms, editals, cócorass, cânabiss, cutucadors, customizaçãos, cuscuzs, cultuaçãos, cultivaçãos, crucificaçãos, criticadors, cremaçãos, covils, costeletass, corroboraçãos, corretors, correiçãos, coroaçãos, cordas vocaiss, coquetels, coordenadas polaress, contravençãos, contrafaçãos, contemplaçãos — Ungoliant (falai) 21:29, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
            • One would have been enough. I have modified the bot such that, if no plural is specified (either by positional or keyword parameters), then no plural is generated. You might like to update the template's documentation to specify that there is no default, and maybe even modify the module to generate an error in such cases. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Template:pt-verb-form-of

Its automatic form detection doesn’t work for highly irregular forms. It’s only guaranteed to work for forms whose lemma has any of the following second parameter: ar, er, ir, car, gar, guer, guir, quir, ear, air, uir, çar, cer, cir, ger, gir. — Ungoliant (falai) 00:09, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

-oar is doable. — Ungoliant (falai) 15:24, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*coronym

Hi SB. I think *(deprecated template usage) coronym is a (pretty rare) misspelling of (deprecated template usage) choronym (from the Ancient Greek roots (deprecated template usage) χώρᾱ (khṓrā) or (deprecated template usage) χῶρος (khôros) + (deprecated template usage) ὄνῠμᾰ (ónuma)). Do you mind if I correct it in the WT:WE queue? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:19, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

OK; done. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't stepping on your toes. Thanks. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:30, 1 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tennis

I'm watching the Davis Cup in Naples. What are the words for deuce and advantage? Deuce seems to be ugualità (cf. French égalité) and advantage seems to be avvantaggio. Renard Migrant (talk) 11:14, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. SemperBlotto (talk) 11:30, 6 April 2014 (UTC) p.s. This is from www.sapere.it :- "Se i giocatori arrivano alla pari a 40 vincerà il gioco chi guadagnerà consecutivamente due punti (vantaggi) più dell'avversario." SemperBlotto (talk) 17:06, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

requests for reviewing

all'arma bianca corpo a corpo

Salve. Would you mind checking these pages? They don’t look quite right to me, but I do not know enough Italian to be certain. --Æ&Œ (talk) 06:51, 7 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Major mistake by SemperBlottoBot

I just discovered that SemperBlottoBot made an error when creating scelerans, which was propagated when it created sceleransi, sceleransem, etc. I'm correcting the error, but I worry how many other entries the bot may have made with the same problem... —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 21:06, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, something's wrong in the Etymology section for operaturus. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 21:14, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revert on microphage

Hello, I see you reverted my edit on microphage. If you don’t believe the word is being used with this meaning, I can guarantee that I have heard and read it. However, seems to be a loanword from the French, so it is probably not acceptable here. Eiku (t) 09:26, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revert on railroading

The term is well used in many books about role playing games. I can find some instances of this being the case if you would like? Its a niche term, but I think it is appropriate to include. Zellfaze (talk) 17:50, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Usage Examples:

I also have it being used in a non-D&D context as well, these two places use it in a Shadowrun context:

Again, like I said, I have books that use the term as well. Zellfaze (talk) 18:00, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Though one could rightly argue that the definition I included could be improved. Zellfaze (talk) 18:18, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

envelope

policy clearly states " We try to make the entries as unbiased as we can, meaning that definitions or descriptions — even of controversial topics — are not meant to be platforms for preaching of any kind."

The quotation I removed conveyed a message about a politician who is perhaps a controversial figure. The definition of envelope is perfectly clear and the quote added nothing to assisting understanding of usage. So whether or not the editor intended to convey a political message, he nevertheless did so and thus breeched policy.

Kindly revert your reversion of my edit. — This unsigned comment was added by 188.238.137.215 (talk).

  • No thanks. The policy, as you state, is we try ...

mongoloid

Mongoloid: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Mongoloid, It's offensive word meaning Down's syndrome. — This unsigned comment was added by Batka83 (talk • contribs) at 03:57, 24 April 2014‎ (UTC).[reply]

About blocking

Is there any policy regarding blocking? --kc_kennylau (talk) 09:19, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

yes. --WikiTiki89 09:23, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Latin verbs having red links in their conjugation table

I have created this category which you may want to work on. --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:21, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

yak shaving rollback

Hi there! I just noticed you rolled back my edit. Why did you do that? Srezz (talk) 15:07, 24 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Gooners

It says UK and when hovering over it, it says "British English". "Soccer" is not British English. Also the other isn't the correct name of the league, that's why the article isn't titled that way. — This unsigned comment was added by 149.254.183.186 (talk).

affinché

Couldn't you just adjust the citation so that it fits your standards instead of rudely deleting the entire page altogether? 83.83.1.229 17:48, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Module:it-conj

I think I'm more or less done with my changes. I hope that the module isn't too confusing to you now, but I'll explain things if anything is unclear. The parameters have not changed at all, so if your bot only relies on the parameters, then everything should be more or less the same. Right now, all the "output" data is first collected into a large table called "data", which has two main subtables, "data.forms" (contains the inflections themselves) and "data.categories" (not used yet, but you can add category names to this so that the inflection tables categorise entries). The data.forms table has subindexes like data.forms.pres_indc_1sg, and likewise for each form that can appear in the table. Each of those form-subindexes is a table (list) rather than a single form, so that you can specify multiple alternative forms when necessary. The original module you wrote already did this, I just streamlined it a bit so that it's hopefully easier to maintain and extend in the future.

Some things could be simplified further. For example, right now, there are separate inflection types for reflexive verbs, but it's actually fairly easy to make it so that you just tell the module that the verb is reflexive, and it modifies the forms accordingly. For example, replacing -(r)re in the infinitive with -rsi is a predictable change, and it's the same regardless of what the inflection type is. I've also renamed all the "internal" names for the forms, using a system of names that I've also used in other modules like Module:la-verb. There are pres_indc_1sg and so on, replacing your original pres1s. I kept your original names as the parameters (the ones you use to override the default forms) for backwards compatibility, so that existing entries would not break. For simplicity it might be good to rename those parameters so that they match the names that are used inside the module, but that's up to you (it would mean reconfiguring your bot to use the new names, and changing existing entries).

It would be easy to fulfill your original request now, categorising any entry that uses one of the override parameters. I haven't done that yet, though, because I have a few questions. I noticed that it's also possible to override the reflexive pronouns with parameters like mi=, ti= and so on. What would those be used for, and are they actually necessary? And if they are overridden, should the verb be considered irregular? Secondly, it's apparently possible to specify no inflection type at all. What is that used for, and does it affect irregular-ness? —CodeCat 00:50, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi there. I shall have to reply to this at length later. But, at first, I can see that the display of the auxiliary verb is broken is cases such as (deprecated template usage) andare or (deprecated template usage) scomporre. @CodeCat SemperBlotto (talk) 07:42, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • p.s. This happens when the auxiliary verb is the last thing specified on a line, and is not immediately followed by a "|" on the same line. (Moving a "|" back from the next line corrects the problem) Strange. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:17, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • p.p.s. I have tested the following types of verb:-
      • Regular -are, -ere and both sorts of -ire - OK
      • Regular reflexive -arsi, -ersi and both sorts of -irsi - OK
      • Pronomial e.g. andarsene, farcela - OK
      • Impersonal e.g. piovere - OK
      • Irregular (i.e. as above with overrides) - Small Fail - accendere (as an example) has superfluous commas when prem3s2 (etc) is nullified. @CodeCat SemperBlotto (talk) 08:35, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • The problem with the newlines probably happened even with the old module. The software doesn't remove whitespace at the beginning and end of a positional parameter, it only removes it in parameters with =. So it includes the newline in the code in the actual parameter value as well, which breaks things. I've added a workaround to that in the module, but I don't know if there is a better solution.
      • The problem with accendere, that I can see, is that you're passing '' as the parameter. The module (probably correctly) thinks that you meant to specify that as the actual form, so it displays multiple forms separated by commas. Except that the second form doesn't actually represent anything in wikitext, it's just spurious "italic" markup. I suppose you used that in the past because the module had no way of saying, using an override, that you wanted a form to disappear entirely. Something like prem3s2=- might be good as a replacement, but we'd have to find and fix the entries where you used this workaround. —CodeCat 12:25, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK, I am happy with the module as in its current form. I don't want to make any changes to parameter names thank you. The reflexive pronouns are overriden in the case of verbs such as (deprecated template usage) farcela (I don't know what they are called - some sort of pronominal verb). I have been thinking about irregularity in Italian verbs - it is a matter of degree. Some are totally regular except that they have an irregular past participle. Some are quite irregular, typically having different forms of the passato remoto. Others are extremely irregular - (deprecated template usage) essere is probably irregular in every tense. Some verbs are impersonal and only exist in the third person singular (e.g. (deprecated template usage) piovere) (p.s. This is an example of a case where no inflection type is specified). Others lack past participles and the associated tenses. I'm not really sure how useful it would be to classify all these as simply "irregular". Thinking ..... SemperBlotto (talk) 10:58, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Automation of German verb conjugation

See finden, abfließen, winden‎, abfinden, grüßen, begrüßen‎, arbeiten‎ for examples. Please express your view if you have any. Should you agree to this automation, please use your bot to help the automation. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:15, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • It would help if there was documentation for the new template/module. Then I wouldn't have to crawl through the module code. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:22, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    I have created a basic documentation. Feel free to expand it.

Why are you removing contributions on common Estonian words?

Suggestions on formatting much appreciated! Please also add comments to explain deletions

Common Estonian words can be found here:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Frequency_lists/Estonian_wordlist

Me and Semper have fixed some of your edits instead of deleting them. You can look at the history page of those entries to see what we changed. —CodeCat 13:48, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have had reading a scholar-reading full of chilean-usage words

includying morral, pioneta 2nd meaning, and rocillo --Penarc (talk) 17:04, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you restore the citations

for the word düşerge? I may change them according to the citations of hydrogene. -- — This unsigned comment was added by 2001:a98:c060:80:5c72:a2:7284:c8c5 (talk).

Speedy delete

Please delete eslibroj, dkampoj and ksoidoj. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:12, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As well as ptuloj. Sorry for the inconvenience caused. --kc_kennylau (talk) 11:16, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As well as Template:compasses-eoj, Template:compasses-eon, Template:compasses-eojn, aluminia oksidoj and aluminia oksidojn. --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:52, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

busses

Hello, I was perplexed when you reverted my edit busses through deletion of ((deprecated template usage) (archaic) kisses). In your note, you wrote "If you think this rollback is in error, please leave a message on my talk page" and so I am not clear why the rolback if you were (apparently) unsure. If you refer to buss#English, the primary noun is "kiss" (secondary is ...Dutch fishing boat...) and verb is "to kiss" ... so I think that the edit I made on April 15 is sound. If you have another view, please elaborate. I was about to roll-back, but perhaps it is best we try to understand more clearly (admittedly, I am not a scholar of old English, but I am familiar with the usage of "Busses" as a euphemism in modern English for kisses and aware of its old English roots, but am not an etymologist).

Falstaff. Thou dost give me flattering busses. {King Henry IV [part 2]} [2]

Also, see: Meanings: Buses, Busses. Note also, "kisses" is "besos" in Spanish; "baci(o)" in Italian; "beijos" in Portugese; "baisers" in French; "basiatio" in Latin; and so on.
Enquire (talk) 07:47, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Enquire He reverted your edit because the definition is to be added to the singular form, which has already be done by I-don't-know-who. --kc_kennylau (talk) 07:55, 10 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sparte

You recently added the meaning "Sparta" (Greek city) to the German word Sparte. I have never ever heard this; the normal word is Sparta as in English. If you have a citation for this (it would then have to be a rather old one), please add it to the citations page. I'm deleting this sense now. If you find the citation, do put it back on of course. But label it "archaic" or "obsolete". Best regards!Kolmiel (talk) 18:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I didn't see that you added a link to a wikipedia entry. So it seems that Sparte is the name of a particular woman in Greek mythology from whom the city Sparta got its name. The wiktionary entry for Sparta doesn't mention this woman, and there's none for Sparte. I take it that she's of lesser importance... So I'm still deleting the proper noun. If you disagree, you can of course revert this. But in this case, please explain that it's a personal name, not that of the city.Kolmiel (talk) 19:06, 11 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?

Dude, why r my entires being deleted as inventions? I'm getting them straight from Wikipedia. (And frankly I'm a little surprised u guys didn't already have these entries before I got here). What gives?!?

Well, for Rayo's number, Wikipedia linked to this for the definition, and there're a few other sources such as this one that also mention it (also used as a Wikipedia citation). Given that that number appears to be rather new, it's not surprising that nobody's heard of it by now, but I assumed that a little media coverage was enough for inclusion. As for goggolplexplex and right-wing socialism, Wikipedia gives a few book citations. Any thoughts? 108.95.130.150 06:28, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update: Yeah, here we go: this appears to be another book that mentions googolplexplex (looks like it's in German, but it's the top result on google books search). Might this be acceptable? 108.95.130.150 06:48, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think googolplexplex would pass based on Usenet newsgroups. Equinox ◑ 13:00, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conjugation of rosseggiare

Hi SemperBlotto, I've noticed an error in the conjugation of "rosseggiare": as it ends in "-giare", and as stated here, I think it should follow the "-ciare" conjugation, as in the following template: Template:it-conj-ciare therefore, conditional and future forms shouldn't have the "i": rosseggerò, and not "rosseggierò". Apart from that, greetings and thanks again for your help with the inflection-bot on the italian wiktionary months ago; have a nice day! :) --Barbaking (talk) 08:59, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

... the same for sfrangiare --Barbaking (talk) 17:28, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Update on {{it-adj}} usage

See [3]. --kc_kennylau (talk) 17:01, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sticky-backed plastic

Sticky-backed plastic was a term invented on the BBC television children's magazine programme "Blue Peter" because of their policy not to use commercial product names. It referred to the vinyl sheeting sold in the UK under the name "Fablon" (see http://www.vinylwarehouse.co.uk/alder-blue-fablon-sticky-vinyl---67cm-x-2m-827-p.asp).

Sellotape (http://www.sellotape.com/desktop/#/home/) is an entirely different product manufactured by Henkel (referred to on Blue Peter as "adhesive tape"). In the US the equivalent product is manufactured by 3M and is sold under the name "Scotch tape".

Nicholas Aleksander

Große

Hi there, Semper.

Does Große actually mean what it says it means? Every instance of it I find in dictionaries says it's a substantivized form of "groß" and means something like "young man/woman". The word Größe (with the umlauts) also exists with similar meanings. --334a (talk) 17:39, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Not sure. You need to speak to someone who is greater than de-1. German Wiktionary says (as far as my limited German goes) that it means large girls; or firstborn; or a title of some sort. Hmm.SemperBlotto (talk) 15:04, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, none of the three senses actually is correct. As a substantivized form of the adjective "groß" it means something along the lines of "big one". Longtrend (talk) 10:54, 15 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Major bot mistake

Please do not create disconvenior for disconvenio. --kc_kennylau (talk) 06:49, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When you have a minute

Not sure where to go about this, but a user named Dan Polansky has apparently developed both a misunderstanding about copyright law (both in general and particularly the 1st edition OED’s status under it) and a hard-on for my more recent entries. Certainly this edit was uncalled for (as displayed by Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV's swift reversion of it). Probably, he just needs hand-holding and double-checking.

In the meantime, if there have been mistakes of mine at that entry or others, I'd rather hear it from you than this guy. Thanks. — LlywelynII 16:08, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As to his understanding (and my rationale w/r/t content from the OED), see my talk page here. — LlywelynII 16:11, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semper seems to be gone for a longer while. I think this sort of dispute is best served by the WT:Tea room. — Keφr 16:17, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. — LlywelynII 17:05, 5 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

wrong revert

Hi. I added a interwiki in Syphilis but you removed it. please add it again because it is a correct interwiki.Gire 3pich2005 (talk) 14:31, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Gire 3pich2005: no, it was wrong. Interwikis are not translations. You even got a warning message about it. — Keφr 14:39, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of my user page

Hi SemperBlotto,

Why have you deleted my user page ?

Thanks --Jean-Louis (talk) 03:04, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. This is probably because your page was a link to another site (promotional), and you had done little or no work on Wiktionary. It isn't a social network. Equinox ◑ 03:08, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Equinox.
Thanks for your prompt reply. I have checked my contributions. I see nothing wrong. To my knowledge, everything is clean.
I am a good regular contributor to french Wiktionnaire and I know very well it is not a social network and the rules of the game
So, can I get back my user page without the risk to be bloqued ?
Thanks you in advance --Jean-Louis (talk) 23:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Jean-Louis Swiners Do you remember what was on your userpage? --kc_kennylau (talk) 12:49, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
No need to memorise that. In the deleted revision, it was one sentence: "I am French. Living in Paris." and an external link. Hardly informative. — Keφr 14:33, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Jean-Louis Swiners There is nothing "wrong" with your contributions; you just don't have very many (four, to be exact, one of which is just adding an interwiki, which a bot would have done). As for the content of your user page, you should not link to external websites without good reason, otherwise it is seen as advertising. An example of a good external link, is a link to a language resource that can help editors. --WikiTiki89 15:43, 12 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Wikitiki, I am very stupid. I just try to open an article for Branduct, translation of the french branduit. I can't get it. Could you help me ? Thanks. --Jean-Louis (talk) 15:49, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have added an entry for the French word (deprecated template usage) branduit - I don't think that there is yet an English term for this concept. The word (deprecated template usage) branduct has been proposed, but it hasn't caught on yet. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:11, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

dicentra#Italian

The definition may need checking. See Dicentra. See also this video of the subject of taxonomic changes. DCDuring TALK 13:55, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair

That block might have been too quick. Though given how that escalated, I cannot say it was mistaken. — Keφr 21:16, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

mess

Are you aware of this mess that you have made? --kc_kennylau (talk) 02:06, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

An important message about renaming users

Dear SemperBlotto,

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

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Bot

Hi SemperBlotto,

Your bot has created a few entries that look strange to me. Maybe you could review these? Thanks in advance.

-- Curious (talk) 18:29, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

tetrasiloxane

Hi SB. Could you please explain what an Si-O group is? --Type56op9 (talk) 12:37, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably a group ("functional entity consisting of certain atoms...") with silicon and oxygen in it? Equinox ◑ 12:57, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. The hyphen is used in chemistry to represent a (deprecated template usage) covalent bond: In this case, a group containing silicon bonded to oxygen with a covalent bond. SemperBlotto (talk) 13:34, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

name

I want to change my name to Questioned sober. Do it. Pass a Method (talk) 17:40, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Conjugation of assortir in French

Hello, it seems your bot created wrong pages for the form of the French verbs assortir. For example, assortions is wrong. The correct form is assortissions. You can find all the correct forms here (assortir#Conjugation seems also correct). Could you fix that? Thank you in advance.Pamputt (talk) 20:15, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion

Hi there. Could you please delete Konsens(es)! I've created the correct genitive Konsenses, used (obviously) alongside unchanged Konsens. Thx!Kolmiel (talk) 18:56, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notificiation

I have changed the Spanish conjugation templates to make irregular past participles enter the stem instead. --kc_kennylau (talk) 03:15, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

combination

I think that item would be the better word rather than object on definition 2. A combination can be made of ideas or immaterial things, not necessarily material things that can be seen or touched (object according to the OED). I think item would be the better word here (In case you're wondering, OED says An individual article or unit, especially one that is part of a list, collection, or set.) Thanks.

Rollback on Webelo

I am contesting your revert of an edit by another user of Webelo. While the original edit that indicated that "Webelos" was the preferred usage, even in singular, was perhaps not as well written as it should be, I believe the editor who made that remark correct for the reasons specified in this tearoom discussion. ToddDTaft (talk) 06:50, 10 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Practopoiesis

Dear Jeff, Can you please explain to me why you removed (rolled back) my edit of practopoiesis? You said that I should leave you a message if I think that the rollback is in error. It seems to me that it may be in error. At least I don't know what your reason was for that. The text was certainly true: It was me (Danko Nikolic) who coined the term. The word did not exist before that. I checked. Thank you very much. Danko Nikolic — This comment was unsigned.

This was under RFV (requests for verification). I have cut it short and re-deleted the entry because (i) it seems like self-promotion, you having created the word yourself (you should use WT:LOP instead) and (ii) the given "citations" are not good enough: you can't use Weblogs for this; see WT:CFI. Equinox ◑ 22:25, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

multi-to-one

You're of course quite right; thanks for pointing out my stupidity gently:-) JoergenB (talk) 19:21, 4 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

bacio appassionato

Angelucci edit. This just seems to mean 'passionate kiss' and as a non-speaker, seems to have no idiomatic meaning in Italian. Though, I notice you're in the edit history so perhaps I'm wrong. Renard Migrant (talk) 23:39, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Type56op9 white list?

In response to his request I set the flood flag for User:Type56op9. Should I have?

I also noted that he isn't whitelisted. Should he be? I have no opinion on the matter other than wondering whether his 14K edits haven't provided enough track record for a decision — one way or the other. DCDuring TALK 17:29, 13 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

complexability

Ever heard of this? google books:"complexability". You need the speech marks in the search to get rid of all the hits for "complex ability". Renard Migrant (talk) 18:41, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

heterodifunctional

Any idea what this "heterodifunctional" means? Would also like to remind you of User:Equinox#Individual_words_to_consider, which is where I dump words that are attestable but incomprehensible to me (making it a slightly rarefied WT:REE). Many of them are scientific, and I suppose some are chemical. Thanks. Equinox ◑ 02:01, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please deal with this

An error has been found here https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=circumseco&diff=32142491&oldid=26365063#Latin --kc_kennylau (talk) 14:10, 28 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also on disseco. --kc_kennylau (talk) 13:38, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Flood flag

Hi SB. Any chance you could give me the flood flag for about 30 minutes? I'm going to be going through Category:Missing Spanish feminine adjectives adding some accelerated forms (not a bot!) --Type56op9 (talk) 11:43, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Explain rollback on "good" / the better part of (quantity)

The reason isn't obvious to me. Is the meaning already covered? Or should better part be its own entry? "The better part of a month/year/etc." appears to be a recurring construction but doesn't seem to be mentioned in either good or better. It seems that it might be implied by 6.2, but it isn't apparent. 93 (talk) 19:33, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

di-

Hi SemperBlotto. Thanks for creating dibreve. Would you mind creating an entry for the Italian prefix di-, which you linked to in that entry, please? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:35, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

CO₂

Hello. Until about twelve days ago, I also thought that initialisms, symbols, etc. were to be used. But then I was shown otherwise (see the third section). The Sackinator (talk) 01:15, 11 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BlakeRoll

You may want to block BlakeRoll8789 (talk • contribs) as an account connected to User:BlakeRoll87. Purplebackpack89 15:19, 13 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Americanata

Hello. You may want to check the meaning of the word Americanata. The current definition on wiktionary is "Grandiose and extravagant behaviour considered typical of Americans", which makes it sound as a positive thing while it actually has a negative connotation, so people reading that definition would use it in a very confusing way. The actual meaning is much closer to what is expressed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3AList_of_ethnic_slurs_by_ethnicity/old#Americans There it reads as "Italian word referring to anything that is of bad taste, vulgar (literally meaning "typically American"). There are similar words in other European languages)." It also implies exaggeration. I'm Italian, and I never heard that word used with a positive connotation.

Module talk:pt-noun

Hi SB, do you know much about Modules? I've just started to get pretty handy with templates, and now they're all being converted into damn modules! I made a suggestion at Module talk:pt-noun, which I tried to put into the actual page but I got error messages. Can you help me? --Type56op9 (talk) 16:51, 16 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Missing entry detection

Hello—Thanks for writing! I completely understand the need for casing here, and have fixed all instances of the personal pronoun I on the page, as well as your suggestion, North York. I think the end solution will be to go back and leave the original text casing, and afterword reprocess the data. Given my schedule, this may take a bit of time. So, for now please let me know if you see any other casing issues, or if you have any other suggestions. Thanks. Jakerylandwilliams (talk) 18:53, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

firepower

I don't think firepower can be a countable noun. What usage can you think of where it could be used like that? The only definitions given on the entry are for it being the capacity or ability to do something, which would make it uncountable. Mclay1 (talk) 15:05, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's just an empirical question. It might have been used that way in the past, or in some region, or in a literary context. DCDuring TALK 15:26, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
What do you make of the definitions implied by this usage? DCDuring TALK 15:30, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I, at first, thought there was no proper plural - but, on looking, I found several usages such as "the instantaneous firepowers of the two sides" which seems to be a use of the simple plural of firepower. The usage at "Big Four firepowers" seems to refer to states that have a powerful military - I'm not convinced that that is a correct usage. SemperBlotto (talk) 16:49, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not part of my idiolect, even in the use you find legitimate, but my authority doesn't go very far. DCDuring TALK 20:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

CORNELIUSSEON

I just noticed that you have reverted two of my contributions, the most recent being a corrected military definition for Abort, and the one before that the correct Military definition for Catapult. They are both taken from JCS Publication 1-02 (Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms) WHY???

  • The entry at abort - you gave verb definitions to the noun section. The definitions that you gave were just specialized usages of existing senses anyway.
  • The entry at catapult was similarly a specialized usage of the existing sense. SemperBlotto (talk) 17:19, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And, WHY is it incorrect to include specific Verbal usage of Nouns? We in the Military use Nouns as Verbs all the time. The specific Dictionary I referenced has 405 pages of definitions, the vast majority of which are Nouns that have been used as Verbs. Incidentally, this dictionary is standard not only for the US DOD, but also for NATO, which includes 16 Nations, and the Inter-American Defense Board (IADB), which includes 20 Nations. Yes, the volume does have regular Nouns, used as Nouns, but many of them are used as Verbs as well. while we are at it, Why is "specialized usage" a problem?

Verbs and nouns are different parts of speech. They must be listed under different headings on the page. Equinox ◑ 20:52, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Firstly, words may certainly have both noun and verb senses - abort is one of these, and our entry has both noun and verb sections - your addition was in the wrong section.
  • Secondly, specialized usages may certainly be added here if they are significantly different from standard usage, But your definitions seemed to me to match the definitions that we already had - they just used different wordings.
  • Thirdly, definitions must be our own work - you must not copy definitions word-for-word from other dictionaries. SemperBlotto (talk) 13:41, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MK Dons

Milton Keynes Dons is not the "legal continuation" of Wimbledon FC. The legal entities were separated in 2004. This has been discussed at length on the Milton Keynes Dons page. Please revert your revert to stop this lie being perpetuated.165.120.81.104 23:25, 22 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your understanding is wrong. In 2004 a CVA transferred the assets of Wimbledon FC Ltd to Milton Keynes Dons Ltd. Wimbledon FC Ltd continued in administration until being wound up in 2009. In legal terms Milton Keynes Dons is not a continuation, it's a new legal entity, formed in 2004. We've had this discussion over and over and those facts aren't changing. I'm going to delete the incorrect "legal continuation" text again.

podemista

Hey SB, could you undelete podemista please? I think there was some decent content there. --Type56op9 (talk) 15:10, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

French noun forms

Also, does your bot still do French work? If so, there's a lot of terms at Category:French adjectives with missing forms (which are not actually adjectives) which could be created. --Type56op9 (talk) 15:14, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

German adjectives

Hi. If you're still working with German, there's some more adjective forms to be created if you're interested! --Type56op9 (talk) 11:47, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Bot vote

One bot vote has finished, and passed. PS, would you like to archive your talk page? It's getting quite long... --Type56op9 (talk) 12:08, 25 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why remove etymology from entry "fire philosophers"?

First off, I am new to wiktionary.

Why did you remove Etymology section from fire philosophers (this diff)?

I added (this diff) the missing example citation and {{seemoreCites}} that points to more citations that also state "Fire-Philosophers, or Philosophi per ignem". —BoBoMisiu (talk) 12:42, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Thanks. —BoBoMisiu (talk) 17:38, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Rittertum

It's the same as Chivalry, but in German.

Translations belong in the Translations section, not in Related terms. Equinox ◑ 22:15, 28 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

conformer

I know that the chemistry definition and the definition "person who conforms" are in the right etymology sections with the right pronunciation, but I'm honestly not so sure about that biology sense. I can't remember ever having heard it, and this medical dictionary lists a rather different definition for the protein sense. It also lists a sense we don't have, but I'm not sure about that definition, having never seen it and having trouble finding it in use. Can you sort this entry out at all, or at least add/fix the definitions? Thanks! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:44, 1 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

baba

Hi, you reverted my edit on Afrikaans "baba". But I was not logged in at the time, didn't realize that. Well, the word does mean "baby", there's no doubt about that. Check the Afrikaans wiktionary where it's defined as "baie jong kindjie" (very young child) and translated with English "baby". -- I just didn't delete the "father" sense because, as I said, my Afrikaans is not good enough to rule out that it exists. Best regards! Kolmiel (talk) 18:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

lists o' words

Hi Jeff, what is up. Firstly, thanks for repeatedly dealing with words on my user page, which is much more than I expected when I reminded you of it as a one-off thing. Secondly, as you know, I've done most of what I can from your A-Z sandbox pages, limited by (i) what's on Wikipedia and (ii) what I know (which is very limited) about biochemistry, anatomy, etc. I have developed the habit of posting on WP's talk pages "why does ___ redirect here?" in the hope that the next time I try it I will be able to define the word that previously only went to a certain WP page without explanation. It sometimes works. What is your feeling about the terms that are not even redirected on Wikipedia, and turn up nothing in the search engine? Excluding the mistakes, some are lesser-known (or obsolete/archaic) chemical terms, some are obscure enzymes, some are sufficiently compounded (with pre-, post-, sub-, super-, etc.) that WP wouldn't need articles (though they presumably have some anatomical sense, and I am not confident enough in that area to assume, oh, "post- means behind the dorsal whatever" — I am wondering whether we could commandeer some science-aware subset of WP (which is much bigger than us, and has "helpdesks" and all sorts) to help us with the remaining, more difficult words. Do you think this is doable? Do you think it is worth it? (I think it probably is.) They would have to be re-trained in our completely alien ideas about sourcing and referencing. Any other ideas? Equinox ◑ 01:23, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think Wikipedians are rarely eager to join a project like this, but it's worth a try. By the way, we do have some more science-knowledgeable sorts already on board around here, I think; I am, and I believe that Wyang (talk • contribs) is as well. Personally, I doubt I can do any better than Semper in any subjects besides geology, marine science, and palaeontology, so I reckon it won't do you much good, but it's something. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
My short-term memory is shot to hell, but I think I produced my sandbox words from here. I have serious doubts about many of them - e.g. (the very first one) (deprecated template usage) acribometer = "An instrument for measuring very minute objects." WTF? I wouldn't be surprised if the majority are "dictionary-only words". (Thanks for your help by the way) SemperBlotto (talk) 08:15, 10 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

setentrional#Venetian

Why does it say setentrionale m, f? --Romanophile (talk) 10:03, 1 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's copied from an older form of {{it-noun}}. Since this word has no final 'e' as you would expect in Italian, no matter what you put, you're wrong. I just changed the head word to default to {{PAGENAME}} which means {{vec-adj|setentrional|e}} now works (because it ignores the final e). But sadly enough, you do need a second parameter; it doesn't matter what that parameter is, it could be 666, but it needs one. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:25, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

erbate

Wiktionnarie defines this as something in chemistry. I can't find any evidence. Is this worth anything? --Sucio green (talk) 08:59, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmm. They define it as an anion derived from erbium (like, say, a nitrate is derived from nitrogen). It is most unusual - for instance there is just a single Google hit for "sodium erbate" (in quotes). I shall add it. It is, however, part of the Italian adjective (deprecated template usage) erbato which will appear soon. Thanks for spotting it. (p.s. a better username than the last one) SemperBlotto (talk) 09:38, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

acquario

Anon just claimed this (i.e. "aquarium") can also be spelled aquario. it:aquario says the same thing. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:14, 4 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Country words

I made the edit to "morrow" on the basis of the book "Country Words" by H.G. Ames (after having tried, and failed, to track down this usage of the word online). You have a better sense than me as to how widespread definitions need to be before they warrant inclusion on Wiktionary so I'll leave the changes reverted and leave it to you to determine the appropriate move here.

  • You added a verb section between the noun section and its related terms and translations - making the translations seem to be of the verb. Also, I couldn't find any evidence for the verb as use defined it. SemperBlotto (talk) 20:31, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to de-sysop/de-checkuser Connel MacKenzie

Since you participated in the the 2012 vote to de-sysop and de-checkuser Connel MacKenzie, you may wish to participate in the current discussion of this proposal. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:01, 7 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Inuktitut Spelling

For variant spellings in Inuktitut like ᕼᐋᑭ (Nunavut) and ᕺᑭ (Nunavik), both romanised as haaki (hockey), which should be used as the main page? I mean this in relation to how labor is defined as an American standard spelling of labour. I'm inclined to use Nunavut but I wasn't truly sure. DerekWinters (talk) 21:33, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback on entry PCM

I added "Process Communication Model, a non-clinical personality assessment, communication and management methodology developed by Taibi Kahler, Ph.D." and you rolled it back. Do a quick google search on PCM and Taibi Kahler and you will find plenty of hits, it's not an obscure abbreviation. Aeon-lakes (talk) 05:55, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

i mistaked

now four variants

Freemasonry.

Why should not the fraternity founded in England be given in wiktionary's definition of Freemasonry? User:PaulBustion88PaulBustion88 (talk) 14:32, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is not officially a religion, it is sometimes spelled lowercase. For example, in George Bush the Bush hating, Freemasonry hating authors Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin wrote about Freemasonry with a lower case f, "After the French elections, it was Bush who was despatched to France to meet the new French President Francois “Tonton” Mitterrand of the Grand Orient freemasonry." "In all of this the freemason Bush shares the obsession of the Anglo-American elite, who are committed to destroying the papacy as one of the few institutions in the world that has dared to resist their Malthusian proposition that the central problem of humanity is overpopulation."http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-17-the-attempted-coup-detat-of-march-30-1981/ "There was at that time a deep suspicion of, and national revulsion against, freemasonry and secret organizations in the United States, fostered in particular by the anti-masonic writings of former U.S. President John Quincy Adams." "Beyond the psychological manipulation associated with freemasonic mummery, there are very solid political reasons for Bush’s strong identification with this cult."http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-7-skull-and-bones-the-racist-nightmare-at-yale/ "then came the endorsement of G. William Whitehurst of Virginia, an endorsement that stood out for its freemasonic overtones in a field where freemasonic modulations were rife." http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/chapter-13-bush-attempts-the-vice-presidency-1974/ The authors there spelled freemasonry lower case to many times for it to have been a typo. So I think that it is spelled lower case sometimes. PaulBustion88 (talk) 14:43, 24 April 2015 (UTC) By the way, I'm not endorsing Tarpley's and Chaitkin's claims against Bush or Freemasonry, or their political views, I'm just showing that they spelled it with a lower case f, so that's not necessarily unheard of to do so.--PaulBustion88 (talk) 14:44, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I didn't think you did. But those authors are kooks, so I just wanted to make clear I don't agree with most of what they said. But why cannot Freemasonry in the traditional sense be included in the lower case term's definitions, since I have shown that it has been spelled with a lower case f?--PaulBustion88 (talk) 14:50, 24 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Heres one source http:. You want more?: http://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/BJ%C3%96RN== Read ancient swedish and runes and correct me if I am wrong but... ==

Borne was the conduction of the word;"biorn" or "Bear"; and was formed and used by the Viking’s. The bear was the symbol of war and status. Where The Vikings wore the bear’s fur and was consider as a sign of strength.

Heres one source http:. You want more?

standing but not operating

As I'm new to Wiktionary, can you explain some of the errors I made? :) Caliburn (talk) 06:15, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

confix gives categories?

I'm still trying to figure out what part of the entry on heptahedron puts it into the suffix category. The only one that I can figure out is maybe confix, but there is nothing in the notes for the template that indicates that it should do that. (experienced wikipedia editor, inexperienced wiktionary editor)Naraht (talk) 15:47, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Should that fact be added to Template:confix/documentation ?
Probably. The documentation of our templates tends to tell people how to use them, but doesn't often tell them the consequences (people don't usually care, and often don't notice). SemperBlotto (talk) 15:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds like a somewhat different audience than Wikipedia.Naraht (talk) 18:30, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Naraht: How's this? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 20:54, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:38, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@SemperBlotto: Thanks. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 14:01, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted definition

Hello, I was wondering why you deleted the definition I added yesterday to the "prot" article (my addition was the Italian onomatopoeia). I don't think it was objectionable content. 82.54.216.187 22:48, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My editing

Hello. Could you review my editing? Are there any problems with it other than formatting ones?--PaulBustion88 (talk) 08:05, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Formatting is bad. You don't seem to learn from your mistakes. As far as content goes, you seem to be very close to POV-pushing, and I get the impression that you are rather US-centric. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:08, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I had a pov that Mormonism is a different religion from Christianity, and also about some other cults of Christianity, and I also had that about some cults of Islam, I'm taking that pov out of the entries. --PaulBustion88 (talk) 08:15, 30 April 2015 (UTC) I've changed some of my edits, for example here, https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Mormonism&action=history, and here, https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Christian_Science&type=revision&diff=32774616&oldid=32768873, and here, https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Jehovah%27s_Witness&type=revision&diff=32774624&oldid=32773088, and here, https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Jesus&type=revision&diff=32774179&oldid=32773008 to make my editing more npov. --PaulBustion88 (talk) 08:23, 30 April 2015 (UTC) What do you mean by you "get the impression" that I am "US centric", the writing style author I mentioned, HW Fowler, was British and he believed in using British English. He is the person who influenced my writing style. --PaulBustion88 (talk) 08:31, 30 April 2015 (UTC) Could you give suggestions on other pov pushing edits I should take down or revise?--PaulBustion88 (talk) 08:34, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Is this kind of edit, https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=hebephilia&type=revision&diff=32774242&oldid=32768662, where I removed the age range as 11-14 as the object of this sexual attraction, that I summarized with, "Not all definitions use that specific age range, I also think a 14 year old female would look more like an 18 year old than a 12, & it isn't knowing the chronological age that the adult finds attractive,its the features of the body." pov pushing. The reason I removed it is because my understanding is that most 14 year old females are already either done with puberty or close to being done with it, so they would look more like 18 year olds than 12 year olds, i.e., they would not be part of the range a hebephile would find attractive, and the age range can also definitely vary, since some people go through puberty at different times. Also it is not knowing that the female is say, 12 years old, that the hebephile finds attractive, or that the male is for that matter, but the features of the person's body, so to some extent I thought including the age range was irrelevant. Is there anything wrong with that edit?--PaulBustion88 (talk) 16:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Formatting

Hello. I tried to fix the formatting for Grand Orient Freemasonry. Is this better? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Grand_Orient_Freemasonry

--PaulBustion88 (talk) 20:42, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here, is it better now, https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Grand_Orient_Freemasonry&action=history? --PaulBustion88 (talk) 20:50, 30 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dan Polansky's block

I do not really think that Dan Polansky should be blocked at all. Maybe there should be an interaction ban between him and myself if we cannot be civil to each other. But if his only problem is with me, it should probably just be an interaction ban, not a block. — This unsigned comment was added by PaulBustion88 (talk • contribs).

I don't think its a good idea for me to interact with him unless I have to, since nobody else has suggested I be banned other than him, I think its best I leave him alone right now. I think part of the reason he thinks I'm trolling here like I did on English wikipedia is because of sample sentences that I wrote partially to be funny, but I also thought were legitimate examples, like this, https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=principle_of_explosion&diff=prev&oldid=32785541, "It was raining and not raining at the same and in the same sense of the word, so the principle of explosion meant that he could legitimately conclude that he had a million dollars, and Socrates was Chinese, and Sigmund Freud was the current President of the United States, there was in a word, an explosion of nonsense." That's exactly what the principle of explosion means, Graham Priest said in an interview that in classical logic, if you have a contradiction, you can prove anything from it, and he gave as an example Socrates becoming Chinese in this kind of logic after a contradiction is proven, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgpPlvLDdzo. But I've taken down anything I wrote down that might be seen as a joke down that I can remember, and I'm going through all my history to see if I forgot anything I wrote that was possibly inappropriate and I will take anything I find that's inappropriate down. --PaulBustion88 (talk) 15:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

ceste

Do you know what ‘ceste’ means in Venetian? --Romanophile (talk) 00:44, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's an interjection. Perhaps the best translation is something like "That's life!" - said when something bad but unavoidable happens. (I'll add it) SemperBlotto (talk) 06:23, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. You are a good person and a good editor (even if I disagree with some of your blocks, but that’s a different matter). --Romanophile (talk) 10:45, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I was just thinking that reminded me of c'est la vie, and there I see it in the etymology section! :-) How's ceste pronounced, may I ask? [seste]? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 10:54, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't actually speak Venetian (I have trouble enough with Italian) but would guess it must sound pretty much like the French - something like "sest-é" perhaps (you will notice that I don't do IPA either). SemperBlotto (talk)
I see; thanks. I would've tried to work it out myself, but there's no Wikipedia article on Venetian phonology. Do you mind if I add {{rfp|lang=vec}} to the entry? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 23:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free. You might like to ask User:GatoSelvadego but he is not very active (email perhaps?). SemperBlotto (talk) 06:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; done. I've asked him at his main user talk page, vec:w:Discussion utente:GatoSelvadego#en:wikt:ceste#Venetian. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 14:19, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ It's Vicentine slang, pronounced /ˈt͡ʃeste/ (“čésté”, if that makes sense). It's also Vicentine slang in Italian contexts, not just Venetian. Would you care to add an Italian entry for it? I imagine its usage is pretty much identical in the two languages. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 13:30, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I've added a basic entry. SemperBlotto (talk) 14:33, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. How would you say it's pronounced? Like the Venetian (/ˈt͡ʃeste/, “čésté”)? Or maybe /ˈt͡ʃɛste/ (“čèsté”), /ˈt͡ʃɛstɛ/ (“čèstè”), /ˈt͡ʃestɛ/ (“čéstè”), or some other way? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 23:45, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my major failing is that I don't understand IPA. I would suspect that it is the same as the vec term - as it is probably used only by Italian speakers in the same region. SemperBlotto (talk) 06:58, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I've made the changes. If the audio pronunciation in cesta is correct (please verify that it is), then I'm pretty sure it's pronounced /ˈt͡ʃesta/ (“čésta”); /ˈt͡ʃestɛ/ (“čéstè”) sounds really weird to me, so I think you're right that ceste is pronounced /ˈt͡ʃeste/ (“čésté”). Re not knowing IPA, please n.b. the spelling pronunciations that I've included in parentheses after the IPA transcriptions; ‘é’ ((deprecated use of |lang= parameter) IPA(key): ⟨e⟩) and ‘è’ ((deprecated use of |lang= parameter) IPA(key): ⟨ɛ⟩) are pronounced as in French, ‘a’ ((deprecated use of |lang= parameter) IPA(key): ⟨a⟩) is pronounced as in Italian and Spanish, ‘s’ ((deprecated use of |lang= parameter) IPA(key): ⟨s⟩) and ‘t’ ((deprecated use of |lang= parameter) IPA(key): ⟨t⟩) are pronounced as in English, and ‘č’ ((deprecated use of |lang= parameter) IPA(key): ⟨t͡ʃ⟩) is pronounced as in the Slavic languages (akin to the German ‘tsch’, the English ‘ch’ as in church, and the Italian ‘c’ in ce and ci without a preceding s). I hope what I've written makes more sense now. :-)  — I.S.M.E.T.A. 10:30, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The audio in (deprecated template usage) cesta sounds perfect. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:21, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. That's all sorted, then. :-)  — I.S.M.E.T.A. 19:59, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

tryst

The alternative pronunciation of tryst as /tɹaɪst/ is real. I found it on dictionary.com, so added it here too. I intend to revert your reversion, if that's all right. - Gilgamesh~enwiki (talk) 16:24, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Computer code

Hello,

I noticed your rollback, and I'd like to understand: computer code seems to be a semantic equivalent of source code[1] and, even if it's not an idiom in English, this information could be helpful for those who search an equivalent (for a writing, for example), and this information is a linguistic one. So I'd like your perspective.

  1. ^ See this page or w:computer code (which is a redirect to w:source code).

Regards, — Automatik (talk) 22:52, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Computer code" could be any code for, or used by, a computer, such as machine code or XML; those are not source code (since they don't get compiled or interpreted in the way e.g. C does). Equinox ◑ 22:55, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Since the redirect w:computer code suggests an other interpretation, this should be changed into a disambiguation page according to your explanation (→ w:source code or → w:machine code) — unless the meaning of "source code" for computer code is more common? Giving the results of this Google search, I incline to the latter. — Automatik (talk) 14:01, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see the point. It's code for a computer. The phrase "turtle biology" is common (8000+ matches in Google Books) but it's just the biology turtles. Computer code is just code for computers. No need for entry. Equinox ◑ 23:11, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
This is not Wikipedia - we don't do disambiguation pages. I have had a look for the string "computer code" on a Google book search, and it is true that some people use the term to mean (deprecated template usage) source code, while others seem to mean (deprecated template usage) object code. I shall add an entry - but I don't think it is in anyway "correct" usage, and won't add it as an alternative form. SemperBlotto (talk) 14:49, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, we don't do disambiguation pages here, I was talking about Wikipedia. But if it is really not an idiom in English, then I don't claim an entry for this word. Regards, — Automatik (talk) 13:25, 8 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

récolte

http://www.cnrtl.fr/etymologie/r%C3%A9colte says from Italian ricolta, is that an error for raccolta or an obsolete form? Renard Migrant (talk) 12:23, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"in memoriam"

You asked for comments if we thought your edit should be rolled back, which is interesting as I stopped to look in both Discussion or Edits before I basically undid your edit. The Usage Notes say "either a preposition is used (typically of) or...", but then neither of the examples show that. I also had to read the notes over a couple times to make sense of them. The colon followed by "then" was confusing. The "either...or" also isn't parallel.

With your approval, I suggest that the Usage Notes be changed to read:

Thank you for your time, Westley Turner (talk) 02:26, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What is wrong with my user page?

Why did you delete my user page? The code: Writer freak Contributions

Two-syllable pronunciation for "Morpheus" is attested and recorded in other dictionaries

See the Merriam-Webster online entry for Morpheus . I'll be reverting your reversion, if that's all right. 130.71.254.49 03:20, 16 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you rollback that edit on goatse?

I didn't damage the article (on *shiver* goatse), and I added another definition. Shouldn't that be considered helpful? I have undone that edit. If you undo it again, please explain. Thanks!--Quibit (talk) 19:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have rolled back your undo, edited the 2nd Definition to provide accessibility to the common man and added explanatory reference. Greg Logan (talk) 01:02, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok! Maybe I could add a new page for the site itself, goatse.cx? I'm new to Wiktionary, so that was probably a newcomer mistake. Thanks!--Quibit (talk) 01:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Rollback of edit on "P.M."

I added the comment that, in the context, "p.m.", or "pm" means "post meridiem" which is literally translated as "after noon" and that since neither "post" nor "meridiem" is capitalised neither should the "p" or "m" in the abbreviation. Why did you remove any of that? It is supported by the OED. Please put the entry back as I left it. Steven 203.59.216.147 09:29, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of the term Residential Treatment Center

Hey, SemperBlotto, you recently deleted my addition of the term Residential Treatment Center with the explanation that it wasn't dictionary material. I disagree. The term residential treatment center is a common term used in the therapeutic industry. Something similar to this term that's defined on Wikitionary would be the term Boarding School. They are related, but not the same. I was wondering why you thought this wasn't a term. Thanks! Regargia (talk) 19:32, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers. SemperBlotto (talk) 19:57, 21 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I understand the capitalization error. But it is not simply a treatment center that is residential. There's a difference in licensing laws between what a treatment center specifically is and what a residential treatment center/facility/program is. Here: http://dss.mo.gov/cd/info/cwmanual/section4/ch18/sec4ch18sub6.htm

Regargia (talk) 15:33, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Social Media Networking

I just saw the definition for 'social media networking' "is the act of building, creating and leveraging personal or business relationships through social media applications with a goal of providing or receiving support, feedback, insight, resources and information in the future" was deleted. Could you please explain why?

Message from Anonymous573462 (new user)

[Apologizes ahead of time as this will get deleted I am sure but please read beforehand], I don't know how to begin a topic on this page, I am unsure whether there are any rules or guidelines I am not following, for instance with my edit on "police", the roots were accurate and it got deleted before I could properly fix up on it. If you could respond to this then delete it after 2 minutes or somehow message me on how to communicate to you properly that would be great, thankyou. - I am using my phone — This unsigned comment was added by Anonymous573462 (talk • contribs) at 10:21, 27 May 2015.

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