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Hi! Thanks for the Vietnamese entries! If you get some time, can you have a look at These 47 (at the moment) Vietnamese entries? They were created by a bot years ago, and probably are missing lots of information. They may even be incorrect. Thanks! --P5Nd2 (talk) 11:49, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
- Nope, actually I use SEAlang.PhanAnh123 (talk)
- Ah, no worries. I've been looking for that manuscript for years now... It seems both Michel Ferlus and Mark Alves are advisors for the Vietic portion of the Sealang project. I wonder if it's worthwhile to contact them to see if they have any resources for Proto-Viet-Muong; Alves seems fairly active academically and his contact email can be found online. Wyang (talk) 10:02, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
I am not particularly bothered, as it's only Vietnamese, but reverting my edit has automatically restored two unwanted hidden categories, Category:etyl cleanup and Category:etyl cleanup no target/language. DonnanZ (talk) 10:20, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
If you are interested ― I've received a reply from Prof. Mark Alves regarding Proto-Vietic reconstructions:
- “... I am currently working on more specific identification of phonological patterns, semantic classes, and etymological details of Vietic vocabulary. I will make such data available around the time of the SEALS conference in May of 2018.
- -- Mark”.
Thốt nốt tnaot & /tu:t/
Are you sure the "thốt"'s & "nốt"'s rhyme "-ốt" was due to Khmu's influence? According to Suwilai 2002 & Lin 1974, the two dialects possessing /tu:t/ for tree are Cuang & Yuan (Yuan's /tu:t/ was ound only in compound /tuːt səʔɔ́ːŋ/). Cuang also has /ctwɔːt/. I've yet able to locate Yuan-speakers, yet Cuang speakers live in Laos. So I think this is unlikely that any of these two groups could've loaned //tu:t/ into Vietnamese as Vietnamese were migrating southwards. Meanwhile, Khmer rhyme /aot/ might also be borrowed into Vietnamese as /ot̚˧˦/ as Vietnamese phonotactics does not allow diphthong /ao/.Erminwin (talk) 23:30, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- It was written in Shorto's A Mon-Khmer comparative dictionary: "Vietnamese may be a loan from Khmuic, cf. with thốt-Kammu-Yuan tuːt plant, Thin tŭt tree". I myself actually also skeptical about it.PhanAnh123 (talk) 23:41, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi PhanAnh123, you added "tip, extreme end" as a definition in mút. Could you add an example that shows how this word is used in a sentence? Thanks in advance. Pamputt (talk) 22:23, 17 January 2019 (UTC)