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Worst gloss: trampolo; worst plural: sneakers. — Ungoliant (Falai) 00:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

lol @ trampolo! I've cleaned it up, though; I worked out which non-bird sense was meant by checking Google images. And I switched sneakers to use the same format everyone at RFD seemed to like on trainers. I think that saves both entries, and Wiktionary's reputation! :) - -sche (discuss) 01:47, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I think that hoeng1gong2 jyu5jin4hok6 hok6wui6 jyut6jyu5 ping3jam1 fong1on3 deserves a place on the list but I can't think of a good reason why. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:04, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

It could go in the anteroom of silliness as "surprisingly not the result of keyboard mashing". Or "Entries which look like keyboard mashing" could be a category? lol - -sche (discuss) 02:24, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
It faces stiff competition from FlatO@InsideChesthigh-PalmDown-FlatO@InsideChesthigh-PalmDown Nod FlatO@InsideChesthigh-PalmForward-FlatO@Inside-PalmForward OpenB@SideChesthigh-OpenB@SideChesthigh OpenB@SideTrunkhigh-OpenB@SideTrunkhigh. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:14, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Longest living incorrect pronunciation: /ˈʌnu/ at Portuguese ano, added in 2004, removed in 2013. — Ungoliant (Falai) 22:05, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Most prons: pwn. Also, note the amount of past participles. — Ungoliant (Falai) 13:22, 16 May 2013 (UTC)


papadom is a strong candidate for the "most alternative forms" title. --Rowboater (talk) 22:14, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

So it is! Thanks! - -sche (discuss) 23:19, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
But are all the forms citeable? I specifically checked each form at Hanukkah. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 02:17, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
OK, I've checked all the forms; about half turned out to be bogus. - -sche (discuss) 03:07, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


How about something for words that have come from an excessive number of other languages? Currently I only see stuff like dragoman and Toki Pona, but I'm sure better examples exist. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 17:47, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Hm, that's a good idea, but I too am having a hard time thinking of examples. - -sche (discuss) 03:09, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Aha, there's "oka", which is English, from Italian, from French, from Turkish, where the Turkish is sometimes thought to be from Arabic, from Classical Syriac, from Greek, from Latin (so, it's seven steps removed from its etymon, without even going into the non-borrowing descent sequence: Latin from Old Latin from Proto-Italic from Proto-Indo-European). And "cukier" is Polish, from German, from Italian, from Arabic, from Persian, from Sanskrit (five steps, if that chain is correct). - -sche (discuss) 07:05, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Ungoliant (Falai) 13:23, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

  • trump < possibly Italian < Latin < Etruscan < Ancient Greek < possibly Phrygian or Illyrian. — Ungoliant (Falai) 13:25, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
    I love the one at shaman#Etymology. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
    It's very impressive, if it's right. Apricot seems to have gone from Italy to Turkey and then back across the Mediterranean to Spain (and then up towards England), but shaman is even more well-travelled. It could use some inline refs, though... I'll see what I can do. - -sche (discuss) 01:48, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Most alt. forms[edit]

Knowledge. — Ungoliant (Falai) 01:57, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Weeding out the ones which are only attested in Middle English, or are not attested at all, knocks it from 30 down to 16, but that's still impressive. - -sche (discuss) 18:06, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Note to self, investigate barghest and hajduk. - -sche (discuss) 22:07, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Thanks for all the help with Gaddafi! Think you could perform the same services for Muammar? I searched pretty extensively, but of course I may have missed some. Anyway, I doubt we'll ever find any term that can outdo that in alt forms, but if we do, I'm betting on another Arabic name (have you tried looking for more for Muhammad?). —This unsigned comment was added by Metaknowledge (talkcontribs).
    Now that you mention it, I can find some more alt forms of Muhammad... it hadn't occurred to me to look for terminal -id, -ut and other schwas. - -sche (discuss) 04:26, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
    A sneaky method is to steal from other languages. Turkish, Persian, and French caused the proliferation at Husayn; I think that spellings like Maxamed (from Somali) should be fair game. Plus, you can try to find scholarly transliterations, which I've been ignoring, but which could have diacritics etc and still be citeable. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:38, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
    Try forms with -ph- and -f- (and maybe -ff-). — Ungoliant (falai) 13:30, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
    I did manage to find one attested -ph- variant of Gaddafi. Or were you talking about Muhammad? (I can find MOffAMMED as a scanno of MOHAMMED, lol.) - -sche (discuss) 22:27, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
    Muhammad. Baphomet derived from Muhammad so I expect there might be some mediaeval forms with -f- or -ph-. Probably Hispanicisms as /f/ is the regular adaptation of /ħ/ in Old Spanish loanwords from Andalusian Arabic. — Ungoliant (falai) 01:39, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Most parts of speech[edit]

Portuguese a: letter, noun, article, pronoun, preposition, verb, contraction. — Ungoliant (Falai) 02:31, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Worst formatting[edit]

[1] (Volapük section): a word related to half the language’s other words. — Ungoliant (Falai) 02:11, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

I dunno. The user who did that did that to a lot of pages, and the information is not exactly incorrect (or even badly formatted)... it's just very copious. - -sche (discuss) 02:45, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
I’d consider lists that long without {{top2}} ~ 5 or {{rel-top}} badly formatted. Most of the content is unnecessary anyway. Why add SoP to Derived terms? Why add term only remotely related to dinosaur to See also? — Ungoliant (Falai) 02:53, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Descendants section completeness[edit]

Appendix:Latin/metipsimus. — Ungoliant (Falai) 05:00, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Impressive! - -sche (discuss) 14:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I imagine we can find (or make) some really comprehensively 'descended from' PIE roots, too (especially using Yair's etymtree, modelled here, to show all the descendants on one page without actually duplicating the text itself across pages). - -sche (discuss) 14:10, 23 June 2013 (UTC)